So I want to write a book...

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"I'm right on the brink,
see, Imma need a moment of peace and a while to think,
but better yet you muthafu**kas hearin' me speak
cuz recently
I've been feelin' so uneasily
See me, I wish y'all would stop this non-sense
\cuz its makin' me nauseaus
makes me wanna vomit when seein' how crooked cops is
cuz they roll up on the block
and stop
and watchin' me an my ni**a's where ever we walkin
mayne, thats garbage whatever your talkin'
regardin
the corner store robbin'
we not them
so we couldn't a been involved in all that!
man whats wrong with him?
I think he's missin' his brain stem
see its amazin'
the city would pay him
the wages for chasin'
and runnin our names in
but Crytical, let 'em know we nuthin' to play with
when we let loose with the Mayhem, soon as we feel no more we can take it"

Dread off "Can't take it no more" from Crytical's "Crytical Condition"

sorry, it's a cold a$$ verse to the police though, so I had to share it with y'all...

For real though, you should start your book with something like

"Cops in America are good for two things, directing traffic and writing parking tickets" Yeah, that'd be a good thesis...
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Perhaps you’re confused on what kind of site you’re posting on. This is the siccness.net, an underground rap message board. Do you really think you’re going to find sympathetic police lovers around here? Do a search for “police brutality” on this site and you’ll see tons of personal accounts of members being harassed and beaten. This isn’t www.whiteconservatives.com homie.

@KrypticFlowz



Both the actual laws and the enforcement of these laws are oppressive.

The police act as agents of the upper class, or the ruling class. Let me give you a couple examples of the role of the police under a capitalist society.

The police are the ones who are called to disrupt or stop peaceful protests, strikes, sit-ins, marches, etc.

That is because the police of today are agents of the reactionary forces of protecting the Bourgeois dictatorship over society.

Take the WTO protests in Seattle for example. IT WAS the police that were the violent aggressors and not the people. No crimes were being committed and still the police (thousands of them) brutally attacked innocent people.






“To Protect and to serve.” Surely, they were not protecting and serving the people; they were protecting and serving the rich.

Another perfect example is strikes, where the police are often times ordered to disrupt or even attack strikers. In the 30s, 40s, and 50s the government (on a daily basis) ordered police in cities to viciously attack strikers, often times unloading their guns on defenseless crowds (sometimes even the national guard was called in). Although today, firing upon crowds is a rarity, the police are still called in and hired by Employers (and some times by the government) to “protect” the corporation and often times, they still are ordered to disrupt or put an end to the strikes. Again, they are not protecting and serving the people; they are protecting and serving the rich.

The police have, throughout history, only functioned as an oppressive organization to protect and serve the ruling elite, not the majority of people. Just look at our current system- A rich man who embezzles millions of dollars is less likely to go to jail than a poor man who robs a 7/11 for a hundred dollars. How can that be? Over 2 million are locked up in prison, over 60% black and well over half of the prison population is in debt. In other words, the majority of prisoners are poor. So now you have to look at our system and ask who is more likely to steal? A poor man or a rich man?

(I think we also need to consider how many people are in jail or arrested for victimless crimes.)

Also, how many laws are created by the people? I can’t think of one single law. Did the people of America vote and say “we think we should have a seatbelt law” or did the government tell us we will have a seatbelt law?

"The state is an organization of the particular exploiting class for the maintenance of its external conditions of production and therefore especially for the purpose of forcibly keeping the exploited class in the conditions of oppression determined by the given mode of production (slavery, wage labor, etc). The state rose to keep class antagonisms in check, but because it arose, at the same time in the midst of the conflict of these classes, it is as a rule, the state of the most powerful, economically dominant class which through the medium of the state, becomes also the politically dominant class and thus acquires new means of holding down and exploiting the oppressed class." – Engels

I’ve always liked the following quote since it came from an actual police chief…

"We are not letting the public into our dirty little secret that those who commit the crime that worries the citizen most, violent street crime, are, for the most part, the products of poverty, unemployment, broken homes, rotten education, drug addiction and alcoholism, and other social ills about which the police can do little, if anything." - ex-Boston Police Commissioner, Robert Di Grazia

I think this pretty much sums it up. The police’s duty, for the most part, is to arrest the poor.


i dont care what the subject is, to say you have no respect for a whole group of people without even knowing them is PURE ignorance...oh, and way to be racist too, how intelligent of you...and those pictures you showed really prove nothing...good try though...
 
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If you’re going to participate in a conversation you have to at least bring something to the table. You’ve done nothing but call my opinions and statements ignorant, without of course explaining why. Until you offer some kind of enlightenment, your comments are void and meaningless.

Perhaps I am asking too much from you. After all, you are trying to become a police officer, a profession that requires little, if any, intelligence.

And how the hell am I being racist?
 
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little intelligence?? how is that?? you need to go through an academy and schooling...schooling, in case you didnt know, is where they teach you things, when you are taught something, you become more intelligent...and if you had read what i put earlier about most officers in this area needing to get degrees to be hired, maybe you would not have made the comment about needing "little intelligence"...the four years i will spend getting my degree could be spent getting another type of degree, this is just what i am choosing to do...now does that make me unintelligent??
 
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Lets be real, police officers are not exactly Mathematicians or academic scholars. Graduating a police academy or receiving a 2 or 4 year degree doesn’t say shit about ones intellect. There are plenty of dumb asses in Amerika who boast the degree they earned in General Studies. Wow, impressive! I imagine police officers are mandated to take Trigonometry 200 and Advanced Physics!

But that’s beside the point. I wrote like a thousand words and you quoted my reply in its entirety and replied simply calling my statements ignorant without offering why. Would you care to comment on anything else or is your only problem with me not respecting police officers? Let me ask you a question: do you respect Whores or Prostitutes??

Perhaps in Redwood City or wherever you’re from there are high standards for police officers, ok, fine. Even though the vast majority of cities have very low requirements, forsake of argument I’ll give you that. But that still takes nothing away from the points I have made in this thread.

And again, how the hell am I being racist?
 
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for your whore and prostitutes comment, just because they are a prostitute doesnt mean they are a bad person, you were talking about how all cops are "bad" people...was it not you who in another thread was saying not all people are given the opporutunity to go to school and get good jobs, that people must do what they need to do to put food on the table, just because they sell their bodies does not make them bad people, its just what needs to be done right??...and yes, ill be the first to admit you have made some good points but that doesnt mean i have to agree with them...and your "whiteconservatives.com" was what i was referring to you as being racist about, what does race have anything to do with it man, come on...you, as you have proven in previous posts do not like cops and i wanna be a cop, so were never gonna agree so why argue??
 
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aplause for 2-0-sixx!!!
you brought some great fucking points to the table,your the one that should write a book man
theres a diference between respecting something and acknowledging something. I my self have no respect for the 5-0 community but i do HAVE to acknowlede there presence
"i dont care what the subject is, to say you have no respect for a whole group of people without even knowing them is PURE ignorance...oh, and way to be racist too, how intelligent of you...and those pictures you showed really prove nothing...good try though.."_j-boeg

i think you jus need to let this one go boeg, to say those pictures proved nothing is a joke in itself.your perception of images must be non existent, how can you not see what the fuck is going on in those pics.

You cant understand how 2-0- sixx can be so racist to a group of clown heads and harbor ignorance

and he cant understand what the hell your trying to prove out of your empy argument

people have there views and ways of thinking, we all gotta understand that we are not carbon copy clones that think exactly the same
 
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J-Boeg said:
for your whore and prostitutes comment, just because they are a prostitute doesnt mean they are a bad person, you were talking about how all cops are "bad" people...
The point I was getting at when I asked about Prostitutes is I wanted you to focus on their profession and not the individual. Certainly you don’t like what they do for a living, but you admitted that it doesn’t mean they are a bad person. That’s exactly my stance with police officers. Although I’ve never met one, I’m sure there are cool cops out there, but as I stated on the first page, even these “cool” cops still must enforce oppressive laws and anyone whose job is to enforce corrupt/oppressive statutes is corrupt and oppressive by proxy. That is why I have no respect for officers. Same goes for whores. On an individual level, some of them I’m sure are cool people, but their profession is disgraceful.
 
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Take a look at the characteristics of individual police officers. Most of them are, or have been social outcasts (aka loosers who were always made fun of and no one respected, consequently they elect a profession which will put them in position of authority to compensate for their psychological issues) Keep in mind this is a generalization and doesn’t necessarily apply to all…
 
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ok, those pictures that were on here, the people in the pics were OBVIOUSLY doing SOMETHING wrong, and like you guys have ALL said before, police enforce rules, what are they supposed to do, let the people go, those pics were made to make cops look bad...you guys all hate cops so your all gonna side with each other...this is beside the point but what are all of you doing right now (school or work)
 
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Those pics are from the WTO protests. Were you in Seattle? Were you there where the pictures were taken? No? Then how the hell can you conclude that these pictures were made to make police look bad? What about the first picture of the cop kicking a man in the nuts? Did you see that on Live TV? Did you know that the man won a settlement of thousands of dollars from the State of Seattle?

These people who were attacked on the streets of Seattle were guilty of practicing the first amendment.

Do a google search for WTO Seattle and tell me what you find. Until then, you shouldn’t comment on topics you no nothing about.

what are all of you doing right now (school or work)
I finished my school years ago and now I work.
 
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damn, all that information was great sixx thx...

im doin this mostly as a learnin experience for myself as well as informing the populous...so there are probably a million people more qualified to write this book, but any help is appreciated.