So I want to write a book...
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would be a good read, make sure to include requirements to be a officer.They jus need likea high school diploma and then enter the clown academy, i mean police academy. You shold also point out the percentage of physicaly fit officers to the fuckin fat slobs that couldnt catch a granny in a speeding wheelchair
I could see Redwood City and other areas in the Bay requiring a high level of skill to be in the academy because they must pay very high to compensate for the high cost of living. However, in the rest of the country, like where I am at now, North Carolina, they will take anyone who is willing to commit to some training for a few months. I work with a lady who's son just got done with the academy out here, and she is always talkin about his shady past and inability to hold onto a job because of incompetence.
^^Why not?
Hatred and/or fear of police is something that spans age, race and social class. . .police have the authority to kill you if THEY think you put their life in danger, they can ruin your record, raise your insurance, and have the power to control what you say and do. Yet, cops dont go to college for 7 years or take massive amounts of psycology classes, or sociology classes to learn about people. We have simple minded racists in control of our environment, commanding respect because they are around to protect and serve. I'd like to find out what that kind of authority does to peoples brains, what makes some cops good and also some cops bad...the list goes on
Hatred and/or fear of police is something that spans age, race and social class. . .police have the authority to kill you if THEY think you put their life in danger, they can ruin your record, raise your insurance, and have the power to control what you say and do. Yet, cops dont go to college for 7 years or take massive amounts of psycology classes, or sociology classes to learn about people. We have simple minded racists in control of our environment, commanding respect because they are around to protect and serve. I'd like to find out what that kind of authority does to peoples brains, what makes some cops good and also some cops bad...the list goes on
I have a friend whose father was a police chief of a small town and his father told him that most police officers were abused during childhood whether it was physical, sexual or mental abuse. I’m not sure if there have been any serious studies conducted in the past, but I believe this to be true. It’s also been shown that a large number of police officers often times abuse their own spouses and children.
With that being said, the line of police work I believe attracts these kinds of people who enjoy holding a sense of power. However, I do not place the blame of the vast amount of corruption and brutality on individual police men and women; these are merely products of our system and the police’s function is to enforce oppressive laws, protect the property of the ruling class and to enforce the policies of the Republican and Democratic parties.
Police brutality occurs on a daily basis in Amerika and that is not a result of just a few bad apples.
With that being said, the line of police work I believe attracts these kinds of people who enjoy holding a sense of power. However, I do not place the blame of the vast amount of corruption and brutality on individual police men and women; these are merely products of our system and the police’s function is to enforce oppressive laws, protect the property of the ruling class and to enforce the policies of the Republican and Democratic parties.
Police brutality occurs on a daily basis in Amerika and that is not a result of just a few bad apples.
^^If I was inside the system don't you think I'd have a biased view?
I'm not out to make cops look like pieces of shit, im gathering evidence to support opinions and presenting them for people to take however they like. Im out to prove and/or disprove and not to manipulate ideas, its as simple as that.
@2-0-sixx - that makes sense in some cases, but have you ever run into any police that are just cool? What makes them different in your opinion?
I'm not out to make cops look like pieces of shit, im gathering evidence to support opinions and presenting them for people to take however they like. Im out to prove and/or disprove and not to manipulate ideas, its as simple as that.
@2-0-sixx - that makes sense in some cases, but have you ever run into any police that are just cool? What makes them different in your opinion?
I’ve personally never met a cool police officer…I have however came across a couple cops who seemed pretty lenient on certain issues and I’ve been “let off the hook” a couple times. But, even these “cool” cops still must enforce oppressive laws and anyone whose job is to enforce corrupt/oppressive statutes is corrupt and oppressive by proxy. I have zero respect for any police officer.
I’m sure there are tons of reasons why some cops appear better than others. Maybe some actually want to be good cops and they want other people to think they are “cool” cops. But in the end, their still apart of something that is repressive.
I’m sure there are tons of reasons why some cops appear better than others. Maybe some actually want to be good cops and they want other people to think they are “cool” cops. But in the end, their still apart of something that is repressive.
Perhaps you’re confused on what kind of site you’re posting on. This is the siccness.net, an underground rap message board. Do you really think you’re going to find sympathetic police lovers around here? Do a search for “police brutality” on this site and you’ll see tons of personal accounts of members being harassed and beaten. This isn’t www.whiteconservatives.com homie.
@KrypticFlowz
Both the actual laws and the enforcement of these laws are oppressive.
The police act as agents of the upper class, or the ruling class. Let me give you a couple examples of the role of the police under a capitalist society.
The police are the ones who are called to disrupt or stop peaceful protests, strikes, sit-ins, marches, etc.
That is because the police of today are agents of the reactionary forces of protecting the Bourgeois dictatorship over society.
Take the WTO protests in Seattle for example. IT WAS the police that were the violent aggressors and not the people. No crimes were being committed and still the police (thousands of them) brutally attacked innocent people.
“To Protect and to serve.” Surely, they were not protecting and serving the people; they were protecting and serving the rich.
Another perfect example is strikes, where the police are often times ordered to disrupt or even attack strikers. In the 30s, 40s, and 50s the government (on a daily basis) ordered police in cities to viciously attack strikers, often times unloading their guns on defenseless crowds (sometimes even the national guard was called in). Although today, firing upon crowds is a rarity, the police are still called in and hired by Employers (and some times by the government) to “protect” the corporation and often times, they still are ordered to disrupt or put an end to the strikes. Again, they are not protecting and serving the people; they are protecting and serving the rich.
The police have, throughout history, only functioned as an oppressive organization to protect and serve the ruling elite, not the majority of people. Just look at our current system- A rich man who embezzles millions of dollars is less likely to go to jail than a poor man who robs a 7/11 for a hundred dollars. How can that be? Over 2 million are locked up in prison, over 60% black and well over half of the prison population is in debt. In other words, the majority of prisoners are poor. So now you have to look at our system and ask who is more likely to steal? A poor man or a rich man?
(I think we also need to consider how many people are in jail or arrested for victimless crimes.)
Also, how many laws are created by the people? I can’t think of one single law. Did the people of America vote and say “we think we should have a seatbelt law” or did the government tell us we will have a seatbelt law?
"The state is an organization of the particular exploiting class for the maintenance of its external conditions of production and therefore especially for the purpose of forcibly keeping the exploited class in the conditions of oppression determined by the given mode of production (slavery, wage labor, etc). The state rose to keep class antagonisms in check, but because it arose, at the same time in the midst of the conflict of these classes, it is as a rule, the state of the most powerful, economically dominant class which through the medium of the state, becomes also the politically dominant class and thus acquires new means of holding down and exploiting the oppressed class." – Engels
I’ve always liked the following quote since it came from an actual police chief…
"We are not letting the public into our dirty little secret that those who commit the crime that worries the citizen most, violent street crime, are, for the most part, the products of poverty, unemployment, broken homes, rotten education, drug addiction and alcoholism, and other social ills about which the police can do little, if anything." - ex-Boston Police Commissioner, Robert Di Grazia
I think this pretty much sums it up. The police’s duty, for the most part, is to arrest the poor.
@KrypticFlowz
Both the actual laws and the enforcement of these laws are oppressive.
The police act as agents of the upper class, or the ruling class. Let me give you a couple examples of the role of the police under a capitalist society.
The police are the ones who are called to disrupt or stop peaceful protests, strikes, sit-ins, marches, etc.
That is because the police of today are agents of the reactionary forces of protecting the Bourgeois dictatorship over society.
Take the WTO protests in Seattle for example. IT WAS the police that were the violent aggressors and not the people. No crimes were being committed and still the police (thousands of them) brutally attacked innocent people.
“To Protect and to serve.” Surely, they were not protecting and serving the people; they were protecting and serving the rich.
Another perfect example is strikes, where the police are often times ordered to disrupt or even attack strikers. In the 30s, 40s, and 50s the government (on a daily basis) ordered police in cities to viciously attack strikers, often times unloading their guns on defenseless crowds (sometimes even the national guard was called in). Although today, firing upon crowds is a rarity, the police are still called in and hired by Employers (and some times by the government) to “protect” the corporation and often times, they still are ordered to disrupt or put an end to the strikes. Again, they are not protecting and serving the people; they are protecting and serving the rich.
The police have, throughout history, only functioned as an oppressive organization to protect and serve the ruling elite, not the majority of people. Just look at our current system- A rich man who embezzles millions of dollars is less likely to go to jail than a poor man who robs a 7/11 for a hundred dollars. How can that be? Over 2 million are locked up in prison, over 60% black and well over half of the prison population is in debt. In other words, the majority of prisoners are poor. So now you have to look at our system and ask who is more likely to steal? A poor man or a rich man?
(I think we also need to consider how many people are in jail or arrested for victimless crimes.)
Also, how many laws are created by the people? I can’t think of one single law. Did the people of America vote and say “we think we should have a seatbelt law” or did the government tell us we will have a seatbelt law?
"The state is an organization of the particular exploiting class for the maintenance of its external conditions of production and therefore especially for the purpose of forcibly keeping the exploited class in the conditions of oppression determined by the given mode of production (slavery, wage labor, etc). The state rose to keep class antagonisms in check, but because it arose, at the same time in the midst of the conflict of these classes, it is as a rule, the state of the most powerful, economically dominant class which through the medium of the state, becomes also the politically dominant class and thus acquires new means of holding down and exploiting the oppressed class." – Engels
I’ve always liked the following quote since it came from an actual police chief…
"We are not letting the public into our dirty little secret that those who commit the crime that worries the citizen most, violent street crime, are, for the most part, the products of poverty, unemployment, broken homes, rotten education, drug addiction and alcoholism, and other social ills about which the police can do little, if anything." - ex-Boston Police Commissioner, Robert Di Grazia
I think this pretty much sums it up. The police’s duty, for the most part, is to arrest the poor.
