REAL GANGSTAS vs. STUDIO GANGSTA RAPPERS..
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"Real n*ggas mayne, neva speak what we don't know" - Project Pat.
I'm sick of everybody trying to be hard on wax. Gangsta isn't cool. Hip hop ain't about who's harder than who. But damn near every rap cat I fuck with in my town is a gangsta/hustler, I know it for a fact cause i've seen it first hand.. if they've ever killed, I don't know. Cause they won't say. I've heard some stories though... lol....
Bottom line, fuck rappers who grew up in the burbs who rap about G shit. Fantasy ass rappers.
I'm sick of everybody trying to be hard on wax. Gangsta isn't cool. Hip hop ain't about who's harder than who. But damn near every rap cat I fuck with in my town is a gangsta/hustler, I know it for a fact cause i've seen it first hand.. if they've ever killed, I don't know. Cause they won't say. I've heard some stories though... lol....
Bottom line, fuck rappers who grew up in the burbs who rap about G shit. Fantasy ass rappers.
also problem is cats who just talk about it every line,
Kick in the door, wavin the 44 /
Leave ya braids on the wall and ya brains on the floor /
got a ak in the trunk and a pistol in my lap /
bustin caps, on every cat that talk yap /
Cuz I'm a killaaaa, take yo life in a minute /
slice yo throat wit a butter knife, i'm all in it /
cause my g'z don't fuck around, leave yo body on the ground /
outlined in chalk, cuz I'm driveby bound /
Blastin tekz at dudes necks cuz its all about respect /
If you look at me wrong, ya gonna get chin checked /
I'll be in your back seat, witta roll-a syran wrap /
or walkin down the block ready to make the 9 clap/
and every verse on the album sounds like this, to me that's a fuckin joke.
Kick in the door, wavin the 44 /
Leave ya braids on the wall and ya brains on the floor /
got a ak in the trunk and a pistol in my lap /
bustin caps, on every cat that talk yap /
Cuz I'm a killaaaa, take yo life in a minute /
slice yo throat wit a butter knife, i'm all in it /
cause my g'z don't fuck around, leave yo body on the ground /
outlined in chalk, cuz I'm driveby bound /
Blastin tekz at dudes necks cuz its all about respect /
If you look at me wrong, ya gonna get chin checked /
I'll be in your back seat, witta roll-a syran wrap /
or walkin down the block ready to make the 9 clap/
and every verse on the album sounds like this, to me that's a fuckin joke.
Honestly, I only take from rapper's music what I need...I dont pay toooo much attention to their so-called THUG lifestyleor whether they are living it to the T ..if a nigga is spitting some "real" stuff in his music whether he did it or not, then i am for it..I also dont like senseless music PERIOD....
Yea, 'cause Denzel is an actor and that's what actors do. There is no line to draw right there, everybody knows Denzel is playing a role.
Rap music was built on reality. In the beginning it was just entertainment, but cats started spittin' about what was really going on in the streets, and it went from there. It went from opening blind eyes, to "who is the hardest cat we can put in the booth". Now it's not "This is what's going on, we need to address this", it's "Look at me wrong and I'll spill your thoughts on the pavement".
Rap music was built on reality. In the beginning it was just entertainment, but cats started spittin' about what was really going on in the streets, and it went from there. It went from opening blind eyes, to "who is the hardest cat we can put in the booth". Now it's not "This is what's going on, we need to address this", it's "Look at me wrong and I'll spill your thoughts on the pavement".
You rite about rap being built on reality, but things change. Things evolve. Rap is no longer about the original principles of being real. It's strictly entertainment. That's why every rapper from the ATL claims to be a drug dealer. That's why ever rapper from LA claims to be a fucking blood. All this dope slanging and gang banging for some reason, is entertainment to the public. Rap is entertainment, it aint real life no more.
I tend to disagree on the grounds that Hip Hop has suffered useless casualties due to ignorance (Hence, 2Pac and Biggie-a beef that went to far). Everybody talkin' all this real shit, but fact of the matter is, Hip Hop started as entertainment and as the years went on artist took it too serious and ended up losing their lives.
Anybody that knows anything about the music business should know the key factor in this game is...Gangstas and the music business don't mix. It's in the blueprints and in every Death Row Records documentary.
These are the reasons why civil rights leaders jump in the mix for rappers to squash stupid beefs over bullshit before another one bites the dust to this street stupidity on trying to prove who's the realest, or the dude who's most hood.
Hip Hop is taking it back to the basics because stupid muthaphuckaz raped and tarnished Hip Hop when it was finally accepted in the mainstream...only to show Corporate America...rappers can't handle fame or behave in the public eye.
We then wonder why they're sweeping rap under the rug again.
Such as...
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=294494
i had to bring this post back up, i've been thinking...can you name 1 gangsta rap album from atl before like the 2000 era? what happened, they were dance/party/crunk music either that or on that eccentric like almost spiritual hiphop like outkast & them. so the point im making is, atl never produced a song about dope boys,killing up everything like they do now. its funny i think maybe its when atl became a major drug hub which happened only within the last few years when the cartels started moving in and bmf those detroit cats so yeah atl are easily influenced now they swear they are hard when they learned it from out of t own cats. yadida.
So since when has story telling NOT been a part of rap? Do you hold every author who writes a novel in the first person perspective to the same standard as rappers? And miss me with the "well rap is marketed as real life" argument. Anybody with half a fuckin brain knowns rap is entertainment. Sometimes its based loosely on reality, sometimes its based heavily on reality and sometimes its not rooted in reality at all. At any rate, its entertainment. Is JRR Tolkein a "fake author" who "glamorizes a lifestyle he never lived?" I mean come on fam, there aint no such things as hobbitts, wizards and orcs! Fake ass author!! I fucks wit newspaper writers they be on dat real shit son.
I see what you saying. I just cant put jeezy and t.i. in the catergory of a x-raided, lynch, nwa, the young mc eiht, bloodsncrips group, south central cartel, geto boys, dayton family, top authority, seagram, spice 1, willie d etc. imo jeezy & t.i shit just not hard or hardcore as them artists i named.
I noticed ScarFace changed his act and lyrics up alot nowdays since the fix album he dont even say muthafucka as much no more. Bc imo he not a gangster rapper no more He more of a reality rapper like(trae, z-ro, k-rino,) everything he spits is the truth and not make belief like most.
OK now lying about doin time AINT COO entertainment or not that shit is not cool.
But muthafuckas jus rappin to be entertaining is all good.
It's when you put it out like you been out doing it.
thas another story.
I'll rap about some gangsta shit but make it obvious i'm not no gangster.
I aint about to be like "i moved keys overseas, now stackin g's..."
that shit is gay you lying about yo paper and yo life style.
I said "The Foe 5th told me splitch-ya dome, ditch the chrome, in a central, location in case I need to kill some mo' reload 4 Times' 'fo i hit tha doe..."
Obviously i'm not really dumpin on niggaz and speakin on it... that would be stupid and dry snitchin on myself. X-Raided is locked up and they used his album as evidence...
But analyzing my lyrics there It's IMPOSSIBLE for my 45 Calibur weapon to talk to me.
And how tha fuck did i Reload FOUR TIMES?
How?!?!?!!? thas jus excessive extravagant outlandeshness that makes no sense but it sound good and it is colorful...
Hence the entertainment.
But muthafuckas jus rappin to be entertaining is all good.
It's when you put it out like you been out doing it.
thas another story.
I'll rap about some gangsta shit but make it obvious i'm not no gangster.
I aint about to be like "i moved keys overseas, now stackin g's..."
that shit is gay you lying about yo paper and yo life style.
I said "The Foe 5th told me splitch-ya dome, ditch the chrome, in a central, location in case I need to kill some mo' reload 4 Times' 'fo i hit tha doe..."
Obviously i'm not really dumpin on niggaz and speakin on it... that would be stupid and dry snitchin on myself. X-Raided is locked up and they used his album as evidence...
But analyzing my lyrics there It's IMPOSSIBLE for my 45 Calibur weapon to talk to me.
And how tha fuck did i Reload FOUR TIMES?
How?!?!?!!? thas jus excessive extravagant outlandeshness that makes no sense but it sound good and it is colorful...
Hence the entertainment.
also i dont find reality rap so much entertaining unless it's speaking on some shit muthafuckas dont speak on everyday. so I personally find discussing and hearing about Obvious daily life issues boring as fuck UNLESS muthafuckas is makin ol' beautiful ass music with utter creativity and puttin they all into it.
i dunno if that shit is true story KRS went through but it's very relevant to life in the hood and real shit I'M SURE a mutahfucka done had happen. maybe not in detail but bit by bit that shit applies to niggas in the dope game. Shit could go down.
That shit could be a wake up call to a young cat who don't know the game who thinkin about slangin and insight to those who dont understand a dope dealers lifestyle.
That shit could be a wake up call to a young cat who don't know the game who thinkin about slangin and insight to those who dont understand a dope dealers lifestyle.
Story telling is a part of rap, what I'm saying is some rappers don't come across as storytellers. Does everything have to be picked apart, really? I don't hold EVERY rapper to the same standard as every other rapper, so why would I hold an author to the same standard? An authors job is to paint a picture in your mind, much like a lot of rappers out there. Some rappers, however, aren't there to paint that picture...they are there to be the baddest fucker in the booth and on the streets, PERIOD! Do I have to explain every little detail to my own belief? I'm not trying to get you to see shit the way I see it, my whole purpose was to let it be known what I thought and be done with it. But as usual, people want to pick my words apart and argue with 'em.
A BOOK is based on fiction unless it is put out there as something different. For example, a biography or an autobiography is not the same as a Steven King novel, nor would a biography or autobiography be mistaken for the same thing as a Steven King novel. See what I'm saying? A book is published and put out there as fact, fiction, science fiction, children's books, etc. etc. There is no such thing as a fake author, because an authors JOB is to come up with a story, true, partially true, or completely false. It is not acceptable in rap to make up a story and display a persona different from what your real persona is. That's called being fake, and it is frowned upon by the REAL CATS who are REALLY doing it. Is it frowned upon by people when a man writes a novel about a killer clown that dwells in a storm drain? No, because it's obviously a horror novel.
As a student of journalism, believe me when I say that you can't trust a newspaper writer completely either. Most journalists spin stories to support their own belief system, which is why people always say "Don't believe everything you read". Journalists have an agenda, and they will write things in such a way so it will fit that agenda.
Again, music has control over people whether you want to believe it or not. Music and the spoken word are the MOST POWERFUL things that exist today. So whether it affects you or not is irrelevant, because it affects a lot of people in ways that you might find absurd, but it is absolutely 100% true. I've seen it with my own eyes. I've seen my own music shift peoples emotions, so I am careful when I speak...that's called being responsible. Because like I said, the spoken word is very effective...and it can touch people in ways you wouldn't even fathom.
A BOOK is based on fiction unless it is put out there as something different. For example, a biography or an autobiography is not the same as a Steven King novel, nor would a biography or autobiography be mistaken for the same thing as a Steven King novel. See what I'm saying? A book is published and put out there as fact, fiction, science fiction, children's books, etc. etc. There is no such thing as a fake author, because an authors JOB is to come up with a story, true, partially true, or completely false. It is not acceptable in rap to make up a story and display a persona different from what your real persona is. That's called being fake, and it is frowned upon by the REAL CATS who are REALLY doing it. Is it frowned upon by people when a man writes a novel about a killer clown that dwells in a storm drain? No, because it's obviously a horror novel.
As a student of journalism, believe me when I say that you can't trust a newspaper writer completely either. Most journalists spin stories to support their own belief system, which is why people always say "Don't believe everything you read". Journalists have an agenda, and they will write things in such a way so it will fit that agenda.
Again, music has control over people whether you want to believe it or not. Music and the spoken word are the MOST POWERFUL things that exist today. So whether it affects you or not is irrelevant, because it affects a lot of people in ways that you might find absurd, but it is absolutely 100% true. I've seen it with my own eyes. I've seen my own music shift peoples emotions, so I am careful when I speak...that's called being responsible. Because like I said, the spoken word is very effective...and it can touch people in ways you wouldn't even fathom.
I honestly believe too many people are taking this music shit waaaaaay too serious.
It's gotten to the point where most people (that used to feed off gangsta rap) don't really give a shit, now. They just seek entertainment. They refuse to feed into the nonsence that it all has to be real.
Then again, it might be a good thing for the younger generation.
It's gotten to the point where most people (that used to feed off gangsta rap) don't really give a shit, now. They just seek entertainment. They refuse to feed into the nonsence that it all has to be real.
Then again, it might be a good thing for the younger generation.