REAL GANGSTAS vs. STUDIO GANGSTA RAPPERS..

[Sydal]

I honestly believe too many people are taking this music shit waaaaaay too serious.

It's gotten to the point where most people (that used to feed off gangsta rap) don't really give a shit, now. They just seek entertainment. They refuse to feed into the nonsence that it all has to be real.

Then again, it might be a good thing for the younger generation.

I agree that a lot of folks see it as entertainment, but there is always that group of cats that take all that shit to heart. I see more and more rappers these days going the party route, which isn't a bad thing. It's different, but it's less negative than the other shit that was running the game for a minute (Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Benzino, Eminem beef). That shit was well publicized, but everybody knows that Murder Inc./G-Unit beef was some real street shit that spilled over into the industry. Shit like that is a bad look.

 

[Gemini]

I agree that a lot of folks see it as entertainment, but there is always that group of cats that take all that shit to heart. I see more and more rappers these days going the party route, which isn't a bad thing. It's different, but it's less negative than the other shit that was running the game for a minute (Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Benzino, Eminem beef). That shit was well publicized, but everybody knows that Murder Inc./G-Unit beef was some real street shit that spilled over into the industry. Shit like that is a bad look.

That, I do have to agree.

I been on some other shit (with this music) lately and been having a much bigger response at a much faster pace. People seem to drawn into that alot faster than, when trying to force feed them the hardcore / reality shit.

If local rappers haven't blown up with their 20 albums they've release, maybe it's time to try a different approach. For those who refuse, quit bitching about how you still struggling...it's all in your hands. This game is built for artist. An artist expands and is not afraid to try new things to help him / her reach the destination they are seeking.

That's like re painting your whip the same color 5-6 times trying to convince people it's been a different color evertime. It's time to step outside the box and know if you are in it to make chump change for a limited time and disappear into the shadows never to be heard from again (and remain an unknown outside your realm / hood), or go for it all and keep trying until you get it right.

 

[Gas One]

if theres a bunch of bad things thats a bad look, its a good look for me.

i need people to be as wack and as complacent as possible. thats what makes me dope.

the more people slack the better i look. and thats in all cases.

its a food chain. anyone weak gets eaten by the bigger ones

i love when hip hop gets wack...because that means i have no competition..and that gives me more time to grow as an artist instead of worrying about whats next to me.

as a matter of fact the wacker hip hop is the better chance of me making money

its the same reason why i stick out on siccness..im doin my own thing on here. so one person veering left in a crowd of people veering right fill be seen by everyone who passes..and eventually that pathway becomes its own fork...and when everyone rushes in, you rush out and start a new fork..but be the only one over there while everyone still stuck at that old fork you created.

follow that youll be rich one day
its the same reason lil wayne sold a milli amilliamilliamilliimilli

 

[The Evil Genius]

u didnt respond to my comment. im right.

Actually u only pulled out one line where he said some shit like that.....Doesn't mean ur right...U can't define a persons rap style off one line so YOUR WRONG. And coming back pages later to tell me ur right about some side shit is very dumb.

 

[kevp]

A BOOK is based on fiction unless it is put out there as something different. For example, a biography or an autobiography is not the same as a Steven King novel, nor would a biography or autobiography be mistaken for the same thing as a Steven King novel. See what I'm saying? A book is published and put out there as fact, fiction, science fiction, children's books, etc. etc. There is no such thing as a fake author, because an authors JOB is to come up with a story, true, partially true, or completely false. It is not acceptable in rap to make up a story and display a persona different from what your real persona is. That's called being fake, and it is frowned upon by the REAL CATS who are REALLY doing it. Is it frowned upon by people when a man writes a novel about a killer clown that dwells in a storm drain? No, because it's obviously a horror novel.

Hook up a link to your music...you seem like a decent cat for being able to keep an argument with what seems to be a brick wall as civil as you have...


Basically like this,

There was a person named Bob, who killed 15 people so on, so forth

I Live a dangerous life and kill people all day

Do you (XXtra mannish) honestly not see a difference in how the artist (author/rapper) is portreying the event? Author is in no way glorifying it...even from a first person perspective, It's fiction. The cover has the name of the REAL LIFE person...his STORY is contained in the book. No matter how close to real life the fiction novel may be, the author is not stating, or even implying that the events happen or happened in real life.

It's true that parents nowaday don't always do their job. Well known, undisputed fact. But to say "FUCK THE CHILDREN if they can't draw the line between reality and music they deserve to get killed" ....BECAUSE They lack decent parenting...is beyond ignorant.

suburban white kids getting handled by the streets? Thats their own dumb ass fault for going out of their element.

On the subject of Columbine...naugh, they didn't listen to rap...but they did listen to violent rock and play violent video games. Is that completely to blame for the events? Probably not. But is it feasable that, without the violent music and games in their lives, that they would not have went to the extent that they did? I think its safe to say Yes.

 

[Sydal]

Hook up a link to your music...you seem like a decent cat for being able to keep an argument with what seems to be a brick wall as civil as you have...


Basically like this,





Do you (XXtra mannish) honestly not see a difference in how the artist (author/rapper) is portreying the event? Author is in no way glorifying it...even from a first person perspective, It's fiction. The cover has the name of the REAL LIFE person...his STORY is contained in the book. No matter how close to real life the fiction novel may be, the author is not stating, or even implying that the events happen or happened in real life.

It's true that parents nowaday don't always do their job. Well known, undisputed fact. But to say "FUCK THE CHILDREN if they can't draw the line between reality and music they deserve to get killed" ....BECAUSE They lack decent parenting...is beyond ignorant.



On the subject of Columbine...naugh, they didn't listen to rap...but they did listen to violent rock and play violent video games. Is that completely to blame for the events? Probably not. But is it feasable that, without the violent music and games in their lives, that they would not have went to the extent that they did? I think its safe to say Yes.

Thanks fam.

The link is www.myspace.com/THEsydal

 

[Unkut Yola]

RAPPERS WHO CLAIM TO REALLY BE LIVING A LIFESTYLE THEY AINT.
ARE FUCKING GAY.

RAPPERS WHO DO WHAT CAMRON CALLS "STREET REPORTING" Like KRS did and does and enlightening the public on wtf is going down in hoods across america is all good and coo.

It's faulty as fuck and weak gayness outta hell to be on some RICK ROSS ass shit.
He make it sound like HE SHIPPING KILOS RIGHT NOW.
Or gangsta rappers who make it sound like they dumpin on niggaz everyday

aint nothin wrong with raw rap.
jus spittin some hardcore ill shit.
thas apart of hip hop.

Like punch line rappers who battle say all kinda throwed off shit.
But that dont make em false ass gangsta cuz they said sum G-Shit.

WOW OMG I JUST FOUNT OUT THAT ENTERTAINERS ARE DOING SHIT STRICTLY FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSE I'M SPEECHLESS.



^NEW BOOTY ASS SHIT.

SO U LIKE "REAL GANGSTAS RAPPING"

LISTEN TO WACK ASS BLOODS N CRIPS: BANGIN ON WAX.
IF THEM FOOLS IS REAL ABOUT ALL THEY SAY.

STFU ABOUT FAKE RAP DUDE IT'S JUS LIKE MOVIES AND T.V. IT'S ALL MEDIA FOR YOUR MONEY AND FOR YOUR VIEWING/LISTENING PLEASURES.

 

[Sydal]

"You a perp, no work flow, frontin' like you serve those/
actin' out against you, I'll use a word to merk foes/
flirt with a lifestyle, but you're never sure, so/
leave the streets alone, better stick to fillin' dirt holes/
you ain't nothin' when it comes to me, dawg/
I'll be what they call perfect, with your shit they see flaws/
Sydal's raw, keep your mouth closed or I'm breakin' jaws/
right jab, uppercut, or fuck you up with the south paw/
I'm the best man, cover up your chest, man/
or be walkin' 'round town, with a bruised breast, and/
see me wildin' out, smilin' with the rest/
while you shiver in the back seat, 'F' on the test, fam/
keep workin' to support what you can't do/
fuck around like Scarface, bet you get ran through/
go ahead playa, show me what the Mac do/
just because you act, doesn't mean I gotta clap YOU" -Sydal

 

[XxtraMannish]

if theres a bunch of bad things thats a bad look, its a good look for me.

i need people to be as wack and as complacent as possible. thats what makes me dope.

the more people slack the better i look. and thats in all cases.

its a food chain. anyone weak gets eaten by the bigger ones

i love when hip hop gets wack...because that means i have no competition..and that gives me more time to grow as an artist instead of worrying about whats next to me.

as a matter of fact the wacker hip hop is the better chance of me making money

its the same reason why i stick out on siccness..im doin my own thing on here. so one person veering left in a crowd of people veering right fill be seen by everyone who passes..and eventually that pathway becomes its own fork...and when everyone rushes in, you rush out and start a new fork..but be the only one over there while everyone still stuck at that old fork you created.

follow that youll be rich one day
its the same reason lil wayne sold a milli amilliamilliamilliimilli

LOL wouldn't you rather stand out when everything is good? What you just described is akin to being valedictorian of special ed. LOL "I might be dumb, but at least I'm the smartest dumb kid!"

 

[XxtraMannish]

Do you (XXtra mannish) honestly not see a difference in how the artist (author/rapper) is portreying the event? Author is in no way glorifying it...even from a first person perspective, It's fiction.

I'd go as far as to say that an author is likely to be better at it, but no, there really is not much of a difference as far as I can tell. Rappers are authors, actors and poets rolled into one. Pac talked about doing shit he never did but he isn't regarded by most as fake. Same for E 40, KRS One, C-BO, etc...

The cover has the name of the REAL LIFE person...his STORY is contained in the book. No matter how close to real life the fiction novel may be, the author is not stating, or even implying that the events happen or happened in real life.

Actually many authors have a "stage name" or pseudonym that they publish their works under. And as far as the rappers - in their songs they are supposed to be "painting a picture" (as others have said about both rappers AND authors) so it would be ineffective for them to say in the middle of the song "oh by the way, none of this shit actually happened."

There was a person named Bob, who killed 15 people so on, so forth

Great example of the third person perspective. Now here's an example of the first person perspective.

I am Bob. I killed 15 people so on, so forth

If a rapper is fake for the same type of thing, then why not the author?

It's true that parents nowaday don't always do their job. Well known, undisputed fact. But to say "FUCK THE CHILDREN if they can't draw the line between reality and music they deserve to get killed" ....BECAUSE They lack decent parenting...is beyond ignorant.

I agree and I don't believe anybody in the thread said "FUCK THE CHILDREN." My point that rappers were never here to serve as surrogate parents and to expect them to tailor their craft to be better suited to children is also ignorant. Would it be better if they did? Maybe. Is it their responsibility? Absolutely not. Rap is not a big brother/ big sister program.

On the subject of Columbine...naugh, they didn't listen to rap...but they did listen to violent rock and play violent video games. Is that completely to blame for the events? Probably not. But is it feasable that, without the violent music and games in their lives, that they would not have went to the extent that they did? I think its safe to say Yes.

I disagree. Everybody wants to point the finger at media. The vast majority of people who listen to violently themed music, violent movies, play violent games, watch football, boxing, MMA and WWF do not go on murderous rampages. There are real underlying problems that people are either unaware of or are choosing to ignore. There are going to be fuck ups in every generation and cleaning up rap music and mortal kombat is not going to change that.

 

[Gas One]

LOL wouldn't you rather stand out when everything is good?

do you live on some fantasy world where everything is good? whats that, fantasy island?

how about you go ahead and chart a moment in life time from the beginning of civilization to now where everything is or was good

what was that, national niggas is chillin today month?

 

[XxtraMannish]

do you live on some fantasy world where everything is good? whats that, fantasy island?

how about you go ahead and chart a moment in life time from the beginning of civilization to now where everything is or was good

what was that, national niggas is chillin today month?

lol quit actin like a damn dick licker you know what i meant

 

[Gas One]

no, i dont know what you mean, and i dont know why dick licking is on your mind.

sorry homie i really dont know what the fuck youre talking about

and it really dont matter at the end of the day cuz i dont even think you care much less myself

you not agreeing with some shit dosent make philly cheese steaks a dollar off today or something..fuck i care

 

[XxtraMannish]

^^^LOL...i was just saying why hope to be the best by virtue of the competition being shitty? It would mean more to be the best amongst strong competition, hence the "smartest dumb kid" analogy.

 

[Sydal]

^^^LOL...i was just saying why hope to be the best by virtue of the competition being shitty? It would mean more to be the best amongst strong competition, hence the "smartest dumb kid" analogy.

Now I'm just plain convinced you are here to fuck with whatever people say.

 

[XxtraMannish]

^^^I see you are a proponent of the "play not to lose" ideogolgy instead of the "play to win" ideology.

 

[Sydal]

^^^I see you are a proponent of the "play not to lose" ideogolgy instead of the "play to win" ideology.

Play not to lose? Naw, I play to win...I just know when the game is worth my time, and when it's not.

 

[XxtraMannish]

^^^So I guess its worth your time even if I'm not talking to you.

 

[Gas One]

^^^LOL...i was just saying why hope to be the best by virtue of the competition being shitty?

who said anything about hope?

part of being dope is confidence, you dont hope to be the best, you are the best, but that dont work for wack ass people.

it works for people with their skills toned enough to stand alone to begin with, but that wont keep you at your spot..learning to face adversity dead in the face does.thats all im sayin dunno wtf u took it as my man either way all peace and not calling people 'dick lickers' on my end.

 

[XxtraMannish]

who said anything about hope?

part of being dope is confidence, you dont hope to be the best, you are the best, but that dont work for wack ass people.

it works for people with their skills toned enough to stand alone to begin with, but that wont keep you at your spot..learning to face adversity dead in the face does.thats all im sayin dunno wtf u took it as my man either way all peace and not calling people 'dick lickers' on my end.

lol it really wasnt all that serious...