REAL GANGSTAS vs. STUDIO GANGSTA RAPPERS..
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But see, what rappers do affects the rest of the country. How? Their audience is made up mostly of impressionable young people who, for some reason or another, can't draw the line between life and entertainment. We have fake ass rappers out there glorifying shit that not even the REAL CATS glorify. I don't know how many gangsters I've known in my life time that have said, "This isn't a game...there's no glory in this street shit".
It's no way to live, yet we have these fake fucks running around saying they live like Mafia Dons or super thugs, when in reality they don't. They are now role models for many kids across America, so the kids follow suit thinking they will live this glamorous life, and all hell breaks loose.
If kids do what wrestlers do, what makes you think they won't do what rappers say?
As rappers, we have to be responsible and be real with it because young people are listening, and even looking for guidance in a lot of cases.
It's no way to live, yet we have these fake fucks running around saying they live like Mafia Dons or super thugs, when in reality they don't. They are now role models for many kids across America, so the kids follow suit thinking they will live this glamorous life, and all hell breaks loose.
If kids do what wrestlers do, what makes you think they won't do what rappers say?
As rappers, we have to be responsible and be real with it because young people are listening, and even looking for guidance in a lot of cases.
LOL you sound like god damn bill o reilly with this save the children bullshit. Be a fuckin parent and don't let your kids listen to shit like that if you feel its gonna be a bad influence. Fact is, nobody has ever killed anybody because a rapper talked about killing someone. And I really don't understand this whole "realness" argument. Are you saying you would rather have your kids listening to REAL killers about REAL homicides?
Exactly, it is up to the parents to raise their children. HOWEVER, I said in a lot of cases, they look to rappers for guidance. In those cases, the parents either aren't around, or they simply don't give a fuck enough to teach their kids. SO, who do the kids look up to? To the famous people that are speaking to them.
It's not our fault as artists that the parents don't care, but we don't help the situation by spittin' fairy tales that these kids take to heart.
It's not our fault as artists that the parents don't care, but we don't help the situation by spittin' fairy tales that these kids take to heart.
I could NEVER be like Bill O' Reilly. That man hates rap music, and I make rap music. If that doesn't divide us, I don't know what does.
Look at my post above. Parents aren't doing their fuckin' jobs, which is why kids look up to people they can relate to. We are in a time now where the children of children are teenagers, or becoming teenagers. 13 year old girls that had babies in 1993 now have 15 year old kids, and those parents aren't yet in their 30's. They raised kids with no idea of how to do so, and they never caught on. It's only obvious, right? It's not up to us to raise other peoples kids, but we are...that's just how it worked out.
I'm not saying people have killed because a rapper talked about killing. I'm saying that kids adopt lifestyles that aren't cool because the only people they look up to glamorize the shit out of it.
Where did kids learn to pick up rather than throw down with fists? This wasn't a problem when I was coming up, so where did the problem come from? Fact of the matter is, if we want to be public figures, we have to be responsible. Actors play parts, but that's known and understood. Rappers on the other hand, are marketed as gangsters and it is shoved in the face of the public that they've been shot, been to prison, sold crack, etc. etc. Now, they are on top because they have a story to tell. It is portrayed as real life, so kids have a hard time knowing what is what. Marketing departments in the music industry didn't go that route until a few years after Pac and Big died. The industry stayed calm, then all of a sudden you needed to be the hardest cat in order to get signed.
Oh, and no, I'm just saying fake rappers need to not glamorize shit. You won't hear real killers talking about real homicides on a record in the mainstream, because the REAL CATS that do REAL DIRT know how to be REAL QUIET about that shit. The REAL CATS are the ones that don't glamorize it. Feel me?
Rap music, though negative a lot of the time, used to have a message in it. I'm just saying we need to bring that back, that's all.
Look at my post above. Parents aren't doing their fuckin' jobs, which is why kids look up to people they can relate to. We are in a time now where the children of children are teenagers, or becoming teenagers. 13 year old girls that had babies in 1993 now have 15 year old kids, and those parents aren't yet in their 30's. They raised kids with no idea of how to do so, and they never caught on. It's only obvious, right? It's not up to us to raise other peoples kids, but we are...that's just how it worked out.
I'm not saying people have killed because a rapper talked about killing. I'm saying that kids adopt lifestyles that aren't cool because the only people they look up to glamorize the shit out of it.
Where did kids learn to pick up rather than throw down with fists? This wasn't a problem when I was coming up, so where did the problem come from? Fact of the matter is, if we want to be public figures, we have to be responsible. Actors play parts, but that's known and understood. Rappers on the other hand, are marketed as gangsters and it is shoved in the face of the public that they've been shot, been to prison, sold crack, etc. etc. Now, they are on top because they have a story to tell. It is portrayed as real life, so kids have a hard time knowing what is what. Marketing departments in the music industry didn't go that route until a few years after Pac and Big died. The industry stayed calm, then all of a sudden you needed to be the hardest cat in order to get signed.
Oh, and no, I'm just saying fake rappers need to not glamorize shit. You won't hear real killers talking about real homicides on a record in the mainstream, because the REAL CATS that do REAL DIRT know how to be REAL QUIET about that shit. The REAL CATS are the ones that don't glamorize it. Feel me?
Rap music, though negative a lot of the time, used to have a message in it. I'm just saying we need to bring that back, that's all.
I bet anything u don't even have any kids just by judging from ur post.....I grew up in the era where parents were anti rap.......My pops was throwing me & my brothers records & tapes in the trash homie....Most kids today don't go thru that cuz youngstas today parents actually grew up on hip hop.....My pops stopped acting a fool cuz he finally realized that no matter how many tapes he throw out were gonna still hear the shit somewhere else.
Again, the problem is bad parenting, not fake rappers. Address the real problem. That's my point.
Not the rappers' faults. You're essentially blaming rappers for other people being fuck ups and thats bullshit to me. Its a known fact that the vast majority of the people who listen to rap music are suburban white boys. So you're telling me that all these suburban white boys are going to become murderous, dope dealing gang bangers? Are you blaming rap for kids in the hood who grow up into these types of lifestyles? Was there such a thing as murder, drug dealers and gangs in the hood before rap was the thing?
Again, you're blaming rap for a problem that existed before rap. Remember Columbine? Those kids didn't even listen to rap.
That's a great attitude to take but the fact is, nobody has to be responsible if that's not what they want to do.
WWF is marketed as real life in a lot of ways, but it is widely known to be fake. Rap is marketed as real life but it is widely known to be fake. Why is one ok for kids while the other isn't?
How bout labels need to not glamorize the shit. How many mainstream rappers would make the type of music they make if it wasn't what the labels wanted to push? And what if the rapper is real and glamorizes that lifestyle? Is that OK since the issue is real vs fake?
I agree that modern rap is severely lacking in a lot of ways, but I don't think it necessarily has to have a message. Plenty of songs have come out through the years that don't really have a message and are regarded as classics.
Not the rappers' faults. You're essentially blaming rappers for other people being fuck ups and thats bullshit to me. Its a known fact that the vast majority of the people who listen to rap music are suburban white boys. So you're telling me that all these suburban white boys are going to become murderous, dope dealing gang bangers? Are you blaming rap for kids in the hood who grow up into these types of lifestyles? Was there such a thing as murder, drug dealers and gangs in the hood before rap was the thing?
Again, you're blaming rap for a problem that existed before rap. Remember Columbine? Those kids didn't even listen to rap.
That's a great attitude to take but the fact is, nobody has to be responsible if that's not what they want to do.
WWF is marketed as real life in a lot of ways, but it is widely known to be fake. Rap is marketed as real life but it is widely known to be fake. Why is one ok for kids while the other isn't?
How bout labels need to not glamorize the shit. How many mainstream rappers would make the type of music they make if it wasn't what the labels wanted to push? And what if the rapper is real and glamorizes that lifestyle? Is that OK since the issue is real vs fake?
I agree that modern rap is severely lacking in a lot of ways, but I don't think it necessarily has to have a message. Plenty of songs have come out through the years that don't really have a message and are regarded as classics.
T.I & Jeezy isnt gangsta rap. Jeezy is trap music theres a difference between trap muzik and gangsta muzik. Gangsta is more of the killing and etc trap is just about selling some drugs and flossing. IMO 50 Cent & The Game(not the radio singles)fits more in the catergory of gangsta rap then Jeezy does.
