Racial profiling by LPD

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Nov 20, 2002
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If you would have read my first post, you would see the "reason" they pulled us over. They dont have to directly tell you its because we are mexican. Even indirectly, its still slander and profiling. You dont get told to get out of the car and everything I have said above for the license plate on the front of the car. Told to lift up all our clothes, asked both for ID, give SSN's, have photos taken all because my friends car didnt have the L Plate on the front of the car, its because I had a red face on my watch and I am hispanic.

As I stated above, everything thing else was blue, black and tan. You must not know how it its out here if you from Texas. I dont know if you have ever been in this situation, but it doesnt happen for a license plate. Certainly not proper protocol at the very least.

I mean come on now, we two mexicans ridin in a Caddillac Deville. Both of us have one piece of red on. My watch and his belt, Yeah, thats really gang attire. If fashion is a crime, I guess I should have been thrown in the slammer for having a matching fit.

Again thanks for your input.
 
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hobgoblin said:
If you would have read my first post, you would see the "reason" they pulled us over. They dont have to directly tell you its because we are mexican. Even indirectly, its still slander and profiling. You dont get told to get out of the car and everything I have said above for the license plate on the front of the car. Told to lift up all our clothes, asked both for ID, give SSN's, have photos taken all because my friends car didnt have the L Plate on the front of the car, its because I had a red face on my watch and I am hispanic.

As I stated above, everything thing else was blue, black and tan. You must not know how it its out here if you from Texas. I dont know if you have ever been in this situation, but it doesnt happen for a license plate. Certainly not proper protocol at the very least.

I mean come on now, we two mexicans ridin in a Caddillac Deville. Both of us have one piece of red on. My watch and his belt, Yeah, thats really gang attire. If fashion is a crime, I guess I should have been thrown in the slammer for having a matching fit.

Again thanks for your input.

LOL so basicly ur saying that in there minds they were like "hey hes mexican he has to be in a gang?". So did they at all ever say anything about your race one way or the other? And in ur first post u didnt really say what the cops did except for take a picture of you. Did he say because u were wearing that watch that it makes u fit in a gang description?
 
Jul 9, 2002
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hobgoblin said:
My homie bangs norte, but I dont. I hang with this dude cuz thats my folks. I have known him since we were like 10. The cops tried to tell us his name came up from a meeting between the Fremont Gang Task Force and the LPD earlier yesterday. But because I was with him and had a red watch on, I am afflilated.
You said it all right there, your homie is known by the cops as a gang member therefore anyone they see hanging out with him is a person of interest to them. You are in the gang files, deal with it. That is a consequence of you hanging with gang members just like if you are rollin with him and you get shot by his rival while hanging with him.

So quit Bitchin and deal with it!

Nerd lol how creative........
 
Nov 20, 2002
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DaytonFamily said:
LOL so basicly ur saying that in there minds they were like "hey hes mexican he has to be in a gang?". So did they at all ever say anything about your race one way or the other? And in ur first post u didnt really say what the cops did except for take a picture of you. Did he say because u were wearing that watch that it makes u fit in a gang description?
Yes, he did say because my watch was red, it is considered gang related. You werent there so obviously you dont know.


@ Jazz

I see where you comin from, but the thing is, if it was really about that, the cops should have said that from the get go. Just cuz the cops said this, doesnt make it true. They will say anything to make you spill your 5th Amendment right and try and incriminate yourself. They cant pull you over for a plate and then make you get out of your car, get all your info and take your picture. Plain and simple. Shit isnt proper. You must be a straight square and have never been profiled so get out your house and step into my shoes. I dont know where you from, but shit dont play out here in Cali. We are the majority and its time the police know that this doesnt play in this day and age.

As I said, I will still seek counsel, aint nothing you gonna say make me think otherwise. But I still value your input.
 
Jul 9, 2002
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You set yourself up, now the cops are going to be looking at you for anything they can find on you. Prepare for more harrassment from the cops from now on. Cops can do anything they damn well please if they are savage enough. I wouldnt make a big fuss as you'll just piss the cops off more, it doesnt bode well for your case to have been caught with a gang member.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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1, you're a fucktard if you buy McDonalds for the whole family, instead of going to the store and buying a loaf of bread, some top ramen, some potatoes and some eggs. Dont blame IDIOCY and BAD HOME ECONOMICS on the government. My family used to LIVE off $10-20 of food a week, and its for DAMN SURE we didnt spend $10-15 of that on McDonalds, then go begging for money or food from other people.

2, This case has no chance. If the liscense plate was on, you might have a 2% chance. From your accounts...lets see..."we were on our way to a friends house" -- with a fucked up liscense tag and a gang member in the ride....sounds to me like yall were going on a drug run.

If the cop never said you were pulled over for wearing red, you have no case. I've had my personal info taken from just walking down the street: "where you going, what are you doing, name, address...." -- no car, even. No picture was taken, granted, but i still didnt walk away saying "This is racism! This is bullshit!", because it wasn't. And i was an EXTREME minority in my town, less than .5%
 
May 13, 2002
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tadou said:
From your accounts...lets see..."we were on our way to a friends house" -- with a fucked up liscense tag and a gang member in the ride....sounds to me like yall were going on a drug run.
OMG you're the biggest fucking square on the planet! First you say "doggystyle" is "wierd porno shit" and now this! LOL@republican rappers!!!
 
Jan 9, 2004
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Unfortunately, McLean is correct on all points. Like DF said, if you sue, all you're going to do is spend money for nothing.

That happens everyday in the hood, you hang with affiliated folks and you get documented as well. Next thing you know, you're part of a gang injunction.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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I hate to say it, but I think the cops got you by the proverbial balls. If you fight it, they'll say they pulled you over for no front tag-legit- If you say they racially profiled you by pulling you out of the car and searching illegally...there is any # of ways they can get around that. All they have to do is prove probable cause, which they could say was, A) your friend, who is a known associate B)They saw red when they looked in the car C) they smelled weed, (even if they didn't), etc. I think if you're going to fight the system you need some bruises, a video tape or a stronger case...LOL @ "get the DA on my side." You been watchin Law & Order lately?
 
Jun 24, 2004
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L Mac-a-docious said:
I hate to say it, but I think the cops got you by the proverbial balls. If you fight it, they'll say they pulled you over for no front tag-legit- If you say they racially profiled you by pulling you out of the car and searching illegally...there is any # of ways they can get around that. All they have to do is prove probable cause, which they could say was, A) your friend, who is a known associate B)They saw red when they looked in the car C) they smelled weed, (even if they didn't), etc. I think if you're going to fight the system you need some bruises, a video tape or a stronger case...LOL @ "get the DA on my side." You been watchin Law & Order lately?

I got pulled over once by a cop. And he said he could smell beer on me and yeah i was like i had one beer an hour ago and he was like no i can tell u have had over 6 beers tonight ur coming to the station with me. He didnt even give me a test there he just arrested me and took me to jail where it showed a microscopic bal. My car got towed and i had to pay for that. I thought it was wrong but i didnt throw a bitch attack and try to sue them.

He has no case. And yes if your friend is a known gang member or drug dealer they have every right to pull u over, hate to say it but if u dont wanna be seen as a gang member, maybe not hang out with them?
 
Apr 25, 2002
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2-0-Sixx said:
OMG you're the biggest fucking square on the planet! First you say "doggystyle" is "wierd porno shit" and now this! LOL@republican rappers!!!
Notice nobody else is saying anything about my post? Yeah, thats because i was right. Sorry, friend.

By the way....funny you would call someone ELSE a square, then use 12-year-old AOL girl slang--"OMG".
 
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HOGOBLIN

IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A CASE TO ME. THE ONLY THING I SEE YOU DOING IS WASTING MONEY ON COURT FEES. EVEN IF YOU WERE TO GET A DA IT WOULDNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE DA AND COUNTY WORKS TOGETHER. NO FRONT PLATE, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE REASON TO PULL YALL OVER FROM THA GATE IN CALI. YOUR HOMEBOY IS THE DRIVER. YOU WOULD'VE HAD A BETTER CASE IF YOU WERE DRIVING. EVEN IF THE POLICE DIDN'T SEE ANY RED FROM THE JUMP ALL HE NEEDS TO SAY IS HE RECOGNIZED THE DRIVER AS A GANG MEMBER. THE COP KNEW FROM THE BEGINNING THAT YOUR PATNA WAS A NORTE ONCE HE SAW YOUR HOMIES BELT. WE ALL KNOW NORTENOS WEAR RED BELTS. FROM THAT POINT EVERYBODY IN THE CAR IS AFFILIATED WITH A GANG OFF THE TOP. IT'S FUCCED UP BUT THAT'S HOW IT IS. JUST LIKE JAZZ WAS SAYIN' IF A RIVAL GANG MEMBER SEEN YALL TOGETHER HE'S GONNA AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME YOU'RE A NORTE BECAUSE OF YOUR AFFILIATION W/ YOUR BOY. I DON'T SEE WHAT KINDA CASE YOU WOULD PRESENT IN COURT. I'D DEFINATELY SEEK LEGAL COUNSEL THO TO GET MY PIC BACC BUT YOU AIN'T FINNA GET PAID FOR THIS.