Diversity is not a bad thing...Infact a large majority of the fans of rap music are not black or latino...Look at eminem, he is white and has not problem selling albums to all races...I see what you are talking about though on the heads of the music labels not understanding the music however, most of the really good artist from the bay have their own label so I don't know how that affects the area....The only thing holding the bay back is exposure....When the area starts to move throughout the west and not rely on MTV Jams to put them on then it will happen...Until then, who knows?
RACE AND RAP: DOES DIVERSITY IN THE BAY HOLD US BACK?
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you gotta make good music, you gotta spend that cash on production
good music has no color and major labels know this, one of the biggest problems in the bay is networking, yeah its good to know who is who and share ideas and knowlage but i dont agree with everyone having the same sound and subject, be you and do your music with your sound, if your good and have everything in place majors will take notice, remember they want to make money too
good music has no color and major labels know this, one of the biggest problems in the bay is networking, yeah its good to know who is who and share ideas and knowlage but i dont agree with everyone having the same sound and subject, be you and do your music with your sound, if your good and have everything in place majors will take notice, remember they want to make money too
to say it's strictly one races art form is ignorant. Are you saying only blacks and puerto rican live in the projects? Would you say painting is one races distinctive art form? It seems you're forgetting rap is poetry, just with alot more rythym and more melodical than just plain poetry. So to say the music belongs to one race is retarded given that 80-something% of the people who buy rap music are white.
i dont think i understand the full point of this thread. i mean, in regards of the bay its not a race issue thats holding back our music careers,its the politics of what is going on in our bay area streets.cats especailly young cats is getting killed on the daily basis,if they aint dead,they are either shot or robbed.or beat up really bad.that affects alot of shit.
but another thing to realize is that some artist out here dont care about goin nation wide,they just tryin to get that hood fame
but another thing to realize is that some artist out here dont care about goin nation wide,they just tryin to get that hood fame
you have people in the bay who are determining what gets radio spins, what gets on the super big shows. and the people making these decisions are not in touch with the culture they control. sometimes i feel like because we solid black men and don't hop around and let non black dj's call us 'my nigga' they can't get comfortable with us. we can kick and be folks and i aint never gonna call you cracker, never gonna call you gook, wetback, chink or any derogatory bullshit. i am always gonna give you your respect as a MAN regardless of color. but it seems like the nonblack dj's out here have a hard time out here accepting black artists as men and not as some type of stereotype. the door is open for everyone of any culture to get down if they respect it. and i dont feel like they respect it and they only let through what they feel a black artist should be instead of letting the artist come how they are
this thread has really become an eye-opener. not because of the race issue, but because of the total lack of knowledge about the origin of the art form. people asking questions like, "what did puerto ricans do to invent hip hop?"
i think people forget the origin of the art form. there is nothing wrong with ALL races participating in the art form. the problem my friend was talking about is the decision makers who call shots and determine whats hot and whats not. its nothing wrong with an a&r or a dj not being black or latin, they just need to be in touch with the culture. sure there are a lot of non-minorites in the bay music game, but only a FEW are real TREN-DSETTERS. and thats the key.....
trend-setters and risk-takeres are what keeps hip hop alive and fresh
i think people forget the origin of the art form. there is nothing wrong with ALL races participating in the art form. the problem my friend was talking about is the decision makers who call shots and determine whats hot and whats not. its nothing wrong with an a&r or a dj not being black or latin, they just need to be in touch with the culture. sure there are a lot of non-minorites in the bay music game, but only a FEW are real TREN-DSETTERS. and thats the key.....
trend-setters and risk-takeres are what keeps hip hop alive and fresh
i think you guys have a personal issue. not trying to air yall out. you seem to have things mapped out for you and your movement. ill be honest with you, if a whiteboy dj wont play your song unless he can call you "my nigga" or what ever your boy there just posted... sinse when does being comfortable with someone, mean you get radio play.... i think you might want to check your music. cause it probably sucks donkey ass. thats the poorest excuse i have ever heard for not getting radio play........
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fuck this messgae board shit, aint yall with ruff ryders now?? why even come here.... yall are attached to the machine my friend..... you should be making threads about using the machine or how to use it!!!!! cause this thread is about to go down hill in a matter of posts....... trust
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fuck this messgae board shit, aint yall with ruff ryders now?? why even come here.... yall are attached to the machine my friend..... you should be making threads about using the machine or how to use it!!!!! cause this thread is about to go down hill in a matter of posts....... trust
<---siccness o.g.!!! hahahahahqahahahahahah
there is crime and murders everywhere blood.. new orleans in the 90s was worse then any place in the country and they had a pretty good run with no limit and cashmoney in the late 90s.. i feel you on that last statement tho most bay artists dont really seem to be dedicated to it.. as far as willing to really grind, and put all their effort into the shit..
anybody can make some money out here in the bay. if u a black rapper, go to the hood and slang that shit out the trunk. if ur a white rapper, go to a keg party and sell ur shit to hella drunk people, if ur a chinese rapper take ur ass to san fransisco and get ur slang on, if u a mexican rapper go to the san jose flea market and hustle... there's always gonna be a market for whatever kind of rap u do out here, the bay got some pretty loyal fans.
as far as making money like in mainstream shit, i dont think race has that much to do with it, its just that people outside the bay havent heard of much bay shit
as far as making money like in mainstream shit, i dont think race has that much to do with it, its just that people outside the bay havent heard of much bay shit