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radio, meta, raiders ? marks are qb, oline, rb, wr, safeties, lbs, and dline. u got te's and cb's cuz of asomuga, mclain will help ur lb corp, dline aint shit change, but mcfadden aint proved shit shit ill take bush over him
QB-Jason Cambell has consistently improved every year. He was a victim of a new scheme just like ole ASS, but did not have the regressions your boy had. Behind Campbell we have a fiesty guy by the name of Gradkowski and servicable number three in Boller or Frye. We are good here. No more Jawalrus to bring down the offense's morale.

O-line- The only real question mark we have going into this year.

LB- We added McClain and Wimbley and got rid of Morrison. We upgraded here, imo. The ony question mark is whether McClain is going to great or above average.

RB- Bush is a beast and will have 1,000 yards easy this year. McFadden has not been used properly up to this point. You have to get him in space, not run him between the tackes all the time. This will be one of our strengths.

S- We may have an pro come out of our safety corps this year. Don't say I did not tell you.

WR- This is going to depend on health. Overall I think we are just fine here also. Considering Jamarcus and the terrible scheme last year, they will be much improved this year.

DL- Nothing has changed? That is funny. I will let you figure that one out.

The Raiders are ready for a breakout year. We are going to shock the football world, I am telling you.
 

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radio, meta, raiders ? marks are qb, oline, rb, wr, safeties, lbs, and dline. u got te's and cb's cuz of asomuga, mclain will help ur lb corp, dline aint shit change, but mcfadden aint proved shit shit ill take bush over him
obviously you haven't been following the Raiders this off season
 

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QB-Jason Cambell has consistently improved every year. He was a victim of a new scheme just like ole ASS, but did not have the regressions your boy had. Behind Campbell we have a fiesty guy by the name of Gradkowski and servicable number three in Boller or Frye. We are good here. No more Jawalrus to bring down the offense's morale.

O-line- The only real question mark we have going into this year.

LB- We added McClain and Wimbley and got rid of Morrison. We upgraded here, imo. The ony question mark is whether McClain is going to great or above average.

RB- Bush is a beast and will have 1,000 yards easy this year. McFadden has not been used properly up to this point. You have to get him in space, not run him between the tackes all the time. This will be one of our strengths.

S- We may have an pro come out of our safety corps this year. Don't say I did not tell you.

WR- This is going to depend on health. Overall I think we are just fine here also. Considering Jamarcus and the terrible scheme last year, they will be much improved this year.

DL- Nothing has changed? That is funny. I will let you figure that one out.

The Raiders are ready for a breakout year. We are going to shock the football world, I am telling you.
a couple other things to point out...

- we have an actual OC this year... which will improve our offense for sure
- teams will have to have a lot more respect for our passing game, therefore won't be able to stack 8 in the box, allowing our run game to open up
- Trevor Scott was also added to our LB corp, and that motherfucker is a beast... our entire LB corp is different... our LBs are big enough to be D-ends... and our small LBs who got ran over by RBs was more of a problem than our D-line anyways, people assumed the blame fell on our line, but it was more on LBs, if a RB could find one hole and break through they'd be able to get big chunks of yardage off top because our linebackers couldn't stuff them
 
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I will take Crabtree's numbers last year with 5-6 td's instead of two. Considering DHB's numbers last year, that would be a drastic improvement.
Yes it would, IF it happens. I don't think it will. If I'm wrong, cool.

radiostationrep said:
Mediocre wins 7-9 games, but I know your expectations are right around there. I agree.
If a mediocre QB only wins 7-9 games, then how do you predict a 10-6 record for your boys when your QB is no better than ours?

radiostationrep said:
Sometimes it does not carry over.
We've been over this before, bro. You're right, sometimes it does not carry over. Often times, it does. When things don't carry over, there's usually a change in personnel, whether it be the OC or skill players. We have no changes in either department.

radiostationrep said:
Also, the teams that had a decent passing attack were able to light it up in the air, so that secondary is real suspect too.
The secondary was 2nd-best in the league in TDs allowed with 14. Opposing QBs had an average rating of 76.2, compared to Alex Smith's 81.5. They were 10th in the league in 3rd down conversions (passing downs), allowing only 37%. They only allowed an average of 6.8 yards per pass attempt, which is 13th in the league.

The yards per game stat is the only one they ranked low in, with 229.4 yards per game. That stat, however, is not the one that matters.

I'm not saying there aren't questions, because there definitely are - mostly about depth - but at the same time, they weren't as suspect as you might think.

They'll be fine.


radiostationrep said:
Should of, could of, would of. You know better than that Fatal.
I'm not sure what you mean with that should of, could of, would of shit. All I really said was if they execute, Raye being predictable won't matter much. I'm talking about this year, not last year.
 

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Raider fans in a niner thread.... lol.... if im correct these same raider fans bitch and moan about niner fans in their threads.....


oh

and Drops Hella Balls may be faster. but his hands of stone dont help
 
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If a mediocre QB only wins 7-9 games, then how do you predict a 10-6 record for your boys when your QB is no better than ours?
ASS career numbers:

G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
43 660 1172 56.3 7029 6.0 37 75 43 24 69.2


It isnt even close close. Campbell is the better QB thus far, hands down.

Campbell career numbers:
G ATT CMP PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
52 1,637 1,002 61.2 10,860 6.6 55 84 38 18 82.3



If history repeats itself your boy Smith should digress, Our boy Campbell will progress. That is strictly going by the numbers of course.
 
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ASS career numbers:

G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
43 660 1172 56.3 7029 6.0 37 75 43 24 69.2


It isnt even close close. Campbell is the better QB thus far, hands down.

Campbell career numbers:
G ATT CMP PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
52 1,637 1,002 61.2 10,860 6.6 55 84 38 18 82.3



If history repeats itself your boy Smith should digress, Our boy Campbell will progress. That is strictly going by the numbers of course.
We both know the only stats that reflect what's really going on are the most recent, which is last year. Last year, Campbell was no better than Smith. Period.

Also, last year, Campbell had more to work with than he will have this year. Good luck with that.

By the way, Campbell has never been anything more than mediocre no matter who you compare him with, so again, how do you come up with 10 wins when you say a mediocre QB only gets you 7-9 wins?
 

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We both know the only stats that reflect what's really going on are the most recent, which is last year. Last year, Campbell was no better than Smith. Period.

Also, last year, Campbell had more to work with than he will have this year. Good luck with that.

By the way, Campbell has never been anything more than mediocre no matter who you compare him with, so again, how do you come up with 10 wins when you say a mediocre QB only gets you 7-9 wins?
he was a little better than Alex Smith... not by much... but you can't say he was NO better
 

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how so? what has campbell done that is so much better than alex smith?

He will suck with the raiders, the redskins were a better team in all offensive positions.
 

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how so? what has campbell done that is so much better than alex smith?

He will suck with the raiders, the redskins were a better team in all offensive positions.
false

the Raiders had a better rushing offense Chreebo

Portis was the lading rusher with less than 500 yards... they ranked 27th in rushing offense... Raiders ranked 21st
 
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he was a little better than Alex Smith... not by much... but you can't say he was NO better
How do you figure? He threw for less than 1,300 more yards, 2 more TDs and 3 more INTs in FIVE AND A HALF more games! Extrapolate Smith's numbers to 16 games and he has 3,580 yards, 27 TDs and 18 INTs. The only advantage Campbell would have is 3 less INTs, but he'd also have 7 LESS TDs and the yardage is almost identical. It all balances out, Campbell was NO BETTER than Smith last year.

Smith was also passing behind a far worse O-Line, as we were ranked among the worst OLs in the league last season.

Campbell was also in a different system with a better surrounding cast in Washington than he'll have in Oakland.

Any way you look at it, Campbell is, and has been, AVERAGE at best. Radiostationrep said mediocre (average) wins 7-9 games, but predicts his team, with a mediocre QB, to win 10 games. Something's got to give. I can imagine them winning up to 7 games, although I'm predicting 6, but no way they win 10.
 
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the Raiders had a better rushing offense Chreebo

Portis was the lading rusher with less than 500 yards... they ranked 27th in rushing offense... Raiders ranked 21st
I think the Niners ranked lower in rushing offense than the raiders, but Frank Gore >>>>> every RB on your roster.

Clinton Portis is more of a weapon than anyone you guys have, too.
 

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How do you figure? He threw for less than 1,300 more yards, 2 more TDs and 3 more INTs in FIVE AND A HALF more games! Extrapolate Smith's numbers to 16 games and he has 3,580 yards, 27 TDs and 18 INTs. The only advantage Campbell would have is 3 less INTs, but he'd also have 7 LESS TDs and the yardage is almost identical. It all balances out, Campbell was NO BETTER than Smith last year.

Smith was also passing behind a far worse O-Line, as we were ranked among the worst OLs in the league last season.

Campbell was also in a different system with a better surrounding cast in Washington than he'll have in Oakland.

Any way you look at it, Campbell is, and has been, AVERAGE at best. Radiostationrep said mediocre (average) wins 7-9 games, but predicts his team, with a mediocre QB, to win 10 games. Something's got to give. I can imagine them winning up to 7 games, although I'm predicting 6, but no way they win 10.
better overall QB rating... you can try to come up with your own rating if you want... but I'll trust the experts instead
 

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I think the Niners ranked lower in rushing offense than the raiders, but Frank Gore >>>>> every RB on your roster.

Clinton Portis is more of a weapon than anyone you guys have, too.
I don't care... we had a better rushing offense... period

Michael Bush had more yards and more YPC than Portis did last season

you can look at Portis's overall career if you want... but the fact of the matter is the Raiders had a better overall rushing attack last season... and our best rusher was better than their best rusher... how can you argue against that?
 
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better overall QB rating... you can try to come up with your own rating if you want... but I'll trust the experts instead
Do you even know how they compute a QB rating?

But OK, I'll give you that. He did a hair better than Alex Smith in the QB rating department with a more stable offense. He's still mediocre. He and Alex Smith were on the same damn level last year.

I wouldn't choose Campbell over Smith because it wouldn't be an upgrade - and I don't even really like Alex Smith!
 
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I don't care... we had a better rushing offense... period

Michael Bush had more yards and more YPC than Portis did last season

you can look at Portis's overall career if you want... but the fact of the matter is the Raiders had a better overall rushing attack last season... and our best rusher was better than their best rusher... how can you argue against that?
I won't argue it. Bush did better than Portis. What I'm saying is teams have to worry more about Portis than they will about Bush, which helped Jason Campbell.
 

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I don't care... we had a better rushing offense... period

Michael Bush had more yards and more YPC than Portis did last season

you can look at Portis's overall career if you want... but the fact of the matter is the Raiders had a better overall rushing attack last season... and our best rusher was better than their best rusher... how can you argue against that?
well no shit bush had higher numbers.... he played 2x as many games as portis did lol.

Bush 16 games. Portis 8 games.


You have to be borderline retarded to say Bush is a better back than Clinton Portis. he only had 95 yards more than Portis did. and portis was a workhorse. Bush was occasionally used. and would come into games fresh when the defenses were worn out.