Pac to fight Margarito in Mexico or Vegas

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2-0-Sixx

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he couldn't do mosley-floyd numbers now, not after mosley lost like that.

side note mosley said after he beats sergio mora, he wants to go to 160 pounds to take on Sergio Martinez for his middleweight belt. Shane then went on to say that if Pac beats margarito for a jr. middleweight belt, then pac can fight shane at 160 for the MW belt! lmao shane is crazy

Anyways, I think Pac-Margarito makes the most money out of:
Pac vs Berto
Pac vs Williams
Pac vs Bradley
Pac vs Cotto II

Berto, Williams & Bradley really have no fanbase at all, a rematch with cotto wouldn't do nearly as well as the first one, so really I think financially speaking Margarito brings the most money being that he's mexican and still has a good sized mexican fanbase, plus a lot of people hate him so they will tune in to see Pac hurt him.

I'm really not concerned about no splits that's up to the promoters/managers to figure out I just want them to fight.
 
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I get your point I don't care about the split. I'm not getting any of that money. It a business and I see this fight clearing up a lot of the business matters. But I think P-Williams or Berto would've did good numbers. I would've brought anyone of those fights. All you need is a 24/7 on HBO, because both of those guys have a better chance at beating Manny then Stone-Hands. I just don't see Stone-Hands having any chance of beating Manny at all. I just don't see too many people paying $50 for this fight. Mosley just needs to handle Mora before any talking.
 
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^^hehe, sure he did. Close fight knockdown was the difference imo. If marquez beats khan then maybe.

Anyways, I cant wait to see pacquiao next to margarito. I reckon he's going to look tiny. Cotto was dwarfed by Margarito and Pac looks a little smaller than cotto:




 
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Manny should beat the brakes off this dude pretty easily no matter the size. Dude has no defense at all. I hope Manny hurts him good too, even better then the Mosley beating.
 
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^^it's one of those fights that could have gone either way I personally scored it 6 rounds a piece with the knockdown being the difference and giving manny a 1 point victory. Doesn't really matter though because unfortunately for marquez if he were to fighh manny again it would probably be at 147 or maybe like 145 somethin like that and I don't think marquez is good above 135. Manny was able to grow but I don't think marquez can anymore.

bigface said:
Manny should beat the brakes off this dude pretty easily no matter the size. Dude has no defense at all. I hope Manny hurts him good too, even better then the Mosley beating.
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I hope he does too but Margarito had always a very good chin. That and his volume punching and great stamina were his best attributes. His chin was considered the best in the sport for many years. We'll have to see if the mosley fight did anything to change that but it's quite possible pac wont be able to hurt him.
 
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Tony said:
Margarito is nothing without the plaster of paris in his gloves. Nothin'....
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well, I don't know about all that. I mean his stamina, work-rate, and his chin weren't loaded gloves you know what I mean? He also had the reputation as one of the hardest workers in the game, a gym rat, and that showed in his body he was always in tremendous shape.

I am by no means a margarito defender and I hope he gets the absolute SHIT KICKED out of him on November 13th, but to say he was nothing I don't agree with that at all. I mean he did lose to Paul Williams in a close fight. Who's really to say with any certainty how long or if at all he used that pad in his glove? It's a mystery I wish I knew.

And just to clear a little technical thing up I don't think what he tried to use against mosley is your traditional "plaster of paris" it was a knuckle pad that supposedly hardens. Here is what he had:



Not that it makes it any better or or he should be punished less severely or anything like that. a cheat is a cheat any way you look at it
 
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If I was a boxer I would hate to fight Margarito. His work rate is crazy and the pressure he puts on fighters makes him one tough dude to deal with and like 2-0 said great chin and Mosley was the only one able to knock him down and I can't see Manny landing clean shots on such a bigger fighter then him like Mosley did. I don't even like that cocksucker Margarito but there's a reason why some have avoided fighting him
 
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Man, I think Manny is going to land clean shots but I don't know if he'll knock him out. But then again, I didn't think Manny could knock Cotto out and we saw what happened.

I would fight Margarito anyday of the week because he's so easy to hit and he doesn't even counter punch. Manny is probably going to land like 4 or 5 shots at a time and then get out of the way. I think it's going to be a lop sided UD in Manny's favor.
 
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2-0-Sixx

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easy to hit is one thing but why couldn't anyone else easily beat him? He's a tough dude, that non-stop pressure and work-rate breaks guys down, that's why I always think margarito would have beat cotto.

Also I said this before one of the key factors for shane mosley is he clinched margarito every single time margarito got close, or immediately after shane landed a shot or two. He tied margarito up, never allowed him to set up his shots and it worked beautifully. Cotto doesn't know how to clinch. I rarely ever see pacquiao clinch either and even if he wanted to, it's hard to do so against a big guy like that.

Maybe pac will be so quick on his feet he'll feet he wont ever need to clinch, but if he wants to hurt margarito he's going to have to stay put for some periods of time which means he can be hit.
 
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@ Tony, I think your forgetting how big of a reach advantage Margarito is gonna have. He also has a new trainer and is not gonna be such a reckless brawling type fighter. I don't think Manny will know what to prepare for
 
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I hear you mayne, but everytime Margarito fights he takes clean shots. If Pacquiao can carry his power it's lights out for Margarito. Pacquiao never had Clottey in any kind of trouble though...
 
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this fight is going to be an all out brawl, i see it going the same way the cotto fight did except the running away part because we all know margarito does not & will not do that especially if it goes down in the motherland...
 
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Tony said:
I hear you mayne, but everytime Margarito fights he takes clean shots. If Pacquiao can carry his power it's lights out for Margarito. Pacquiao never had Clottey in any kind of trouble though...
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with clottey though it was damn near impossible to really hit him flush. Plus, I wouldn't doubt that Clottey has the best chin in boxing. His head is so fuckin big lol I don't think nothin rattles him.

Remember how big Oscar was against Pac? Margarito is going to be just as tall but he will weigh significantly more. Plus oscar was really a shell of himself that night so pac made it look easy.

This fight is going to be tough unless margarito really is washed up and done. That has yet to be seen.

I always hated margarito for some reason, even before shane mosley, but man, I always thought of his as an absolute beast and a force to be reckoned with. Like I said I always thought of our modern day Fab Four was: Cotto, Margarito, Shane & Mayweather. Pac at the time wasn't even in the picture cuz he was too small. It's crazy though, if you rewind two years and say that Pac would end up fighting Cotto, Margarito and Floyd Mayweather. I think in 10-15 years after everything is said and done, it's going to look huge for manny to have fought these guys.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
^^it's one of those fights that could have gone either way I personally scored it 6 rounds a piece with the knockdown being the difference and giving manny a 1 point victory. Doesn't really matter though because unfortunately for marquez if he were to fighh manny again it would probably be at 147 or maybe like 145 somethin like that and I don't think marquez is good above 135. Manny was able to grow but I don't think marquez can anymore.



I hope he does too but Margarito had always a very good chin. That and his volume punching and great stamina were his best attributes. His chin was considered the best in the sport for many years. We'll have to see if the mosley fight did anything to change that but it's quite possible pac wont be able to hurt him.
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Damn, you gave them 6 rounds each? What fight were you watching. even the commentators were surprised by the injustice and also called Marquez the real champ!

Now about going up on weight Marquez has done everything leg
 
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I think in order for Margarito to beat Pac, he will have to defend somewhat because he normally dont defend at all, so if he does defend he has a shot of winning just cause he can take a good punch and can also give a good one.
 
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