No, I don't. I think mayates are the ones dissing my race. Not every black man is a mayate, just the ignorant ones, and mexicans got some ignorant people to, but Mayweather showed no class with his outfit, then on his corners shirt it says "Mayweather loves Mexico"? This coming from a guy being trained by the former "Mexican Assasin"?
Oscar De La Hoya VS. FLoyd Mayweather Jr..
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No, I don't. I think mayates are the ones dissing my race. Not every black man is a mayate, just the ignorant ones, and mexicans got some ignorant people to, but Mayweather showed no class with his outfit, then on his corners shirt it says "Mayweather loves Mexico"? This coming from a guy being trained by the former "Mexican Assasin"?
If it makes you feel better to exaggerate in order to make your self look semi-cool compared to other people, be my guest, but you're making no sense since no one was going at it constantly for any where near an entire day or even a good part of it and no one topic leaked into the next day, so the only geek, pussy, and air head is you..
No one cares what you think anyways, or any other uneducated wanna-be hip hop culture addict who posts here concerning an issue like that..
^Great point, I have no idea why people bought into the WWE style promotional hype knowing Floyd's crafty history and De La Hoya's tendencies to get tired...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=boxing_video
^As far as the press conference, De La Hoya gave no excuses at all, one reporter asked who beat him more convincingly out of Mayweather, Hopkins, and Mosley(since they all beat him) and he basically said in so many words that they were all the same and beat him fair and square.. They also ended any controversy over the scoring, Floyd felt he should of won by more, as did most neutral viewers.
No one cares what you think anyways, or any other uneducated wanna-be hip hop culture addict who posts here concerning an issue like that..
^Great point, I have no idea why people bought into the WWE style promotional hype knowing Floyd's crafty history and De La Hoya's tendencies to get tired...
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=boxing_video
^As far as the press conference, De La Hoya gave no excuses at all, one reporter asked who beat him more convincingly out of Mayweather, Hopkins, and Mosley(since they all beat him) and he basically said in so many words that they were all the same and beat him fair and square.. They also ended any controversy over the scoring, Floyd felt he should of won by more, as did most neutral viewers.
^Exactly, It's plausible.. I mean it was a Golden Boy event, and seriously if you liked the fight or not, if you like Mayweather or not, all that you have to do is look at the fight again, De La Hoya wasn't doing anything and after the 9th round he basically got swept from fatigue and frustration until the last ten seconds of the last round. The judge who scored it for him and the judges who gave Oscar the 12th round were drunken mad..
I agree with Parkboyz, Brown_Boy, and 20sixx...
Mayweather whooped him hands down. The only punches Oscar got in (besides that good right hand in the 11th) was when Oscar was holding Floyd and hitting him or when he backed Floyd into the ropes. When he backed Floyd in the ropes he missed most of his punches anyway (landing only 20% ha). Every 10 punches he threw he would only land 2 and they weren't flush punches. Look at Floyd's connect rate... When Floyd kept the fight in the middle of the ring he was tagging De La Hoya with powershots (landing over 50%). There's goes the fight right there. De La Hoya got spanked!
I found it funny that Mayweather wore that fit to the ring. I knew Floyd was going to win after seeing him dressed like that. LOL....
It's just what Oscar gets for setting up the fight in his favor. Oscar knew he couldn't beat Floyd fair and square so he set the fight up in his advantage and still got whooped!
If there is a rematch... the rematch should be set up on Floyd's terms. Floyd should get most of the money, choose whatever gloves he wants to wear, and they should fight in Madison Square Garden. De La Hoya is too chicken to fight Floyd in New York. If there was a rematch, I'll bet money that Floyd knocks out De La Hoya.
Mayweather whooped him hands down. The only punches Oscar got in (besides that good right hand in the 11th) was when Oscar was holding Floyd and hitting him or when he backed Floyd into the ropes. When he backed Floyd in the ropes he missed most of his punches anyway (landing only 20% ha). Every 10 punches he threw he would only land 2 and they weren't flush punches. Look at Floyd's connect rate... When Floyd kept the fight in the middle of the ring he was tagging De La Hoya with powershots (landing over 50%). There's goes the fight right there. De La Hoya got spanked!
I found it funny that Mayweather wore that fit to the ring. I knew Floyd was going to win after seeing him dressed like that. LOL....
It's just what Oscar gets for setting up the fight in his favor. Oscar knew he couldn't beat Floyd fair and square so he set the fight up in his advantage and still got whooped!
If there is a rematch... the rematch should be set up on Floyd's terms. Floyd should get most of the money, choose whatever gloves he wants to wear, and they should fight in Madison Square Garden. De La Hoya is too chicken to fight Floyd in New York. If there was a rematch, I'll bet money that Floyd knocks out De La Hoya.
I'd have to agree also with a lot of my peers that this confirms that Oscar is and has always been one of the most overrated fighters/former R&B singers in Boxing history! Seriously, every career defining fight the guy has he gets in "the best shape of his life" for and ends up getting schooled or beat up.. The only thing that Oscar has shown us is that you can sell tickets at the expense of people's ethnic/national pride and with your charm, but when it's time to box, all that extra shit is worthless..
Notable losses:
Mayweather
Mosley
Mosley
Hopkins
Trinidad
Notable wins:
None, everybody he's beaten was either old and out of their prime (Chavez, Camacho), sub-par (Ike Quartey, Vargas), or his win was disputed (Whitaker, Sturm)..
A boxing fraud has been exposed for the last time imo... R.I.P to a highly overrated career.. :dead:
Post-fight press conference: http://www.zshare.net/video/delmaypost-wmv.html
Notable losses:
Mayweather
Mosley
Mosley
Hopkins
Trinidad
Notable wins:
None, everybody he's beaten was either old and out of their prime (Chavez, Camacho), sub-par (Ike Quartey, Vargas), or his win was disputed (Whitaker, Sturm)..
A boxing fraud has been exposed for the last time imo... R.I.P to a highly overrated career.. :dead:
Post-fight press conference: http://www.zshare.net/video/delmaypost-wmv.html
See that's the shit I'm talking about.
How exactly did Floyd "whoop" him?
He had no consistancy in his attack.
This fight was no where near a decisive victory in Floyd's favor.
It was back and forth the whole night.
Floyd would only fight when De La Hoya wasn't throwing his jab.
I hear all this talk about how De La Hoya wasn't landing his punches when he flurried. Sure, most of his shots didn't land but he won some of those rounds based on activity. Mayweather missed many of his shots and that's one thing many of you have failed to point out.
I scored this fight as straight down the middle as I could.
The only doubt I had was round 10 where I scored it even. But in the end I had Oscar winning by a point. The fight was still on the table in the final round and De La Hoya showed that he wanted it more than Floyd.
Both fighters failed to establish themselves. It seemed like Oscar could easily control Mayweather with his jab when ever he threw it but he didn't use it enough.
On the flip side you had Floyd who was fighting with the intention of taking Oscar in deep waters, hoping that he would tire out by the late rounds.
That wasn't necessarily the case. Oscar although he slowed down, he had a little left in the gas tank because they fought at such a slow pace.
Plus Floyd was a little tired himself and that made for a tougher than expected pack of championship rounds for him....
How exactly did Floyd "whoop" him?
He had no consistancy in his attack.
This fight was no where near a decisive victory in Floyd's favor.
It was back and forth the whole night.
Floyd would only fight when De La Hoya wasn't throwing his jab.
I hear all this talk about how De La Hoya wasn't landing his punches when he flurried. Sure, most of his shots didn't land but he won some of those rounds based on activity. Mayweather missed many of his shots and that's one thing many of you have failed to point out.
I scored this fight as straight down the middle as I could.
The only doubt I had was round 10 where I scored it even. But in the end I had Oscar winning by a point. The fight was still on the table in the final round and De La Hoya showed that he wanted it more than Floyd.
Both fighters failed to establish themselves. It seemed like Oscar could easily control Mayweather with his jab when ever he threw it but he didn't use it enough.
On the flip side you had Floyd who was fighting with the intention of taking Oscar in deep waters, hoping that he would tire out by the late rounds.
That wasn't necessarily the case. Oscar although he slowed down, he had a little left in the gas tank because they fought at such a slow pace.
Plus Floyd was a little tired himself and that made for a tougher than expected pack of championship rounds for him....
Sure Oscar has struggled against many top fighters but he's beaten most of them. And that includes Mosley and Trinidad.
I don't think he is overrated at all. I think he's been one of the best fighters this generation. Clearly....
And anyone who doesn't think so is just an exposed hater.
I mean I wonder how Floyd and Jones Jr's records would look like if they fought this type of opposition?....
I don't think he is overrated at all. I think he's been one of the best fighters this generation. Clearly....
And anyone who doesn't think so is just an exposed hater.
I mean I wonder how Floyd and Jones Jr's records would look like if they fought this type of opposition?....
In my opinion he whooped him. Every two power punches that Mayweather threw at least one of them landed. Every 5 De La Hoya threw only 1 landed. De La Hoya got whooped fair and square. Besides De La Hoya flurries (while Mayweather was on the ropes) what else did he do?
And if there's a rematch.... Floyd will knock De La Hoya out! All Floyd has to do is stay off of the ropes. That was Oscar's only game plan.
And if there's a rematch.... Floyd will knock De La Hoya out! All Floyd has to do is stay off of the ropes. That was Oscar's only game plan.
^They did fight the same opposition as De La Hoya, Mayweather fought a heck of a lot of the same people as De La Hoya during his chase of De La Hoya.. Mayweather has been chasing Oscar for years bro, check Boxrec and look at the title fights and names of the opponents they've both faced.. Oscar has indeed probably faced seemingly tougher competition, but he lost, so how much is that worth besides experience? And who brought up Roy Jones?
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000352
Thank you, those who are still acting like there's some sort of controversy or that it was a "close" fight are delusional. Since when did sensible people start disagreeing with the punch stats and the judges, let alone their own eyes if they watched the fight? Also if there was a rematch then yes, Floyd would either beat him by a bigger margin or knock him out similar to the two Vargas/Mosley fights..
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000352
Thank you, those who are still acting like there's some sort of controversy or that it was a "close" fight are delusional. Since when did sensible people start disagreeing with the punch stats and the judges, let alone their own eyes if they watched the fight? Also if there was a rematch then yes, Floyd would either beat him by a bigger margin or knock him out similar to the two Vargas/Mosley fights..
But how often did he throw power punches?
The point I made is that he was very inconsistant.
If he was landing so easily (at around 50% as you suggested) why didn't he do it more often?
De La Hoya while not landing much either pressed the fight.
These rounds were as clear as night and day when it came to scoring them.
They were just taking turns. Not one of them took control....
As for a rematch, Floyd landed when he actually attacked.
A KO? No.... Perhaps a TKO? Maybe.
In my opinion, he doesn't have what it takes to stand in front of De La Hoya and do what he needs to do to take him out.
In a rematch, what happens if De La Hoya uses his jab more frequently?
Floyd would go into a defensive shell every time De La Hoya threw the jab.
He would even back up every time De La Hoya threw it. His back was hitting the ropes cuz De La Hoya drove him back with those jabs.
Floyd will have to find an answer to De La Hoya's jab if he's to stay away from the ropes in a rematch.
And by no means am I suggesting that De La Hoya will win a rematch by using the jab more frequently. While he would definately win the early rounds by being more active this time, I wonder if he would have enough left in the tank for the late rounds.
He would have to go for a KO or lose another decision, but this time it wouldn't be a close decision....
The point I made is that he was very inconsistant.
If he was landing so easily (at around 50% as you suggested) why didn't he do it more often?
De La Hoya while not landing much either pressed the fight.
These rounds were as clear as night and day when it came to scoring them.
They were just taking turns. Not one of them took control....
As for a rematch, Floyd landed when he actually attacked.
A KO? No.... Perhaps a TKO? Maybe.
In my opinion, he doesn't have what it takes to stand in front of De La Hoya and do what he needs to do to take him out.
In a rematch, what happens if De La Hoya uses his jab more frequently?
Floyd would go into a defensive shell every time De La Hoya threw the jab.
He would even back up every time De La Hoya threw it. His back was hitting the ropes cuz De La Hoya drove him back with those jabs.
Floyd will have to find an answer to De La Hoya's jab if he's to stay away from the ropes in a rematch.
And by no means am I suggesting that De La Hoya will win a rematch by using the jab more frequently. While he would definately win the early rounds by being more active this time, I wonder if he would have enough left in the tank for the late rounds.
He would have to go for a KO or lose another decision, but this time it wouldn't be a close decision....
The points that you made against some of Oscar's most notable wins can be made for these common opponents you speak of.
Oscar was the first to beat an undefeated Hernandez. Which I find very interesting that you failed to mention him.
Floyd beat him a few years later (impressive win for him even though Chicanito wasn't as good as he once had been).
And Gatti?
First off he was a blown up Jr. Middleweigt when De La Hoya beat him so Oscar did what he had to do with him.
If Gatti was finished when he fought De La Hoya, in what condition was he in when he fought Mayweather? A fighter who was a very bad match up in terms of styles to begin with.
As for Floyd chasing De La Hoya....
Lets say that this belief that holds no weight is true, just for the sake of argument. How do you know De La Hoya is afraid of him? That is the point you're trying to make after all. Which is pointless because they just finished fighting.
I brought up Jones because he's often been said to be the best of our generation and the argument against that is that he hasn't fought that many good fighters. I was comparing him to Mayweather, I wonder how Mayweather's record would look like if he fought as many good fighters as De La Hoya. You on the other hand just finished saying that Mayweather has fought many of the same opponents that De La Hoya has faced.
There were only two common opponents and I just mentioned them....
Oscar was the first to beat an undefeated Hernandez. Which I find very interesting that you failed to mention him.
Floyd beat him a few years later (impressive win for him even though Chicanito wasn't as good as he once had been).
And Gatti?
First off he was a blown up Jr. Middleweigt when De La Hoya beat him so Oscar did what he had to do with him.
If Gatti was finished when he fought De La Hoya, in what condition was he in when he fought Mayweather? A fighter who was a very bad match up in terms of styles to begin with.
As for Floyd chasing De La Hoya....
Lets say that this belief that holds no weight is true, just for the sake of argument. How do you know De La Hoya is afraid of him? That is the point you're trying to make after all. Which is pointless because they just finished fighting.
I brought up Jones because he's often been said to be the best of our generation and the argument against that is that he hasn't fought that many good fighters. I was comparing him to Mayweather, I wonder how Mayweather's record would look like if he fought as many good fighters as De La Hoya. You on the other hand just finished saying that Mayweather has fought many of the same opponents that De La Hoya has faced.
There were only two common opponents and I just mentioned them....
Unless you were counting all the punches and power punches your self and feel that you're qualified enough to out rule the official on this, then maybe you should actually refer to the punch stats when discussing who landed more shots..
Also it's only smart that a smaller Mayweather used his boxing skill instead of brainlessly brawling like some angry street fighter with a grudge. He showed discipline and out smarted an overrated and sluggish De La Hoya.. In a rematch like I said, he'd embarrass him worse, people should just hope it won't be on Ceasar Chavez' birthday..
