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Meta4iCAL

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i remember ya was talking shit when we beat the seacocks and now ya'll beat the jets and making a big dead out of this 1. amazing isn't it ?
is anyone really making a big deal about it?

I think everyone is happy we got the win...

we're not saying that we're gonna go to the playoffs because of this or anything... shit... as far as I'm concerned this win doesn't mean THAT much

it's good momentum for our team... and good for Cable to get his first win as a coach... but it was still an ugly win at home... I'm happy and I'll take it... but I'm not gonna make a big deal about it

and not that this really matters... BUT...

Jets >>> Seahawks this year

I wouldn't have brought it up... but you did... so I'm just sayin
 
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i remember ya was talking shit when we beat the seacocks and now ya'll beat the jets and making a big dead out of this 1. amazing isn't it ?
THE SEAHAWKS SUCK. THE JETS ARE A PRETTY DECENT TEAM. AND NO ONE IS MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF SHIT. WE WON A GAME AND WE HAPPY. AINT NO ONE TALKING PLAYOFFS LIKE A LOT OF NINER FANS ON HERE WERE.

STOP HATIN'. GIVE IT UP. THE RAIDERS PLAYED A GOOD GAME AND WON IN DRAMATIC FASHION.

OH YEAH AND RUSSEL HAD A GOOD GAME TOO. HE'S COMING ALONG NICE.
 
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I still dont think cable is the answer... i feel like this team should be playing better than they arw... but who knows... hes 1-1 right now... so its still kinda up in the air

nobody knows yet but you guys were ready to murder his whole family last week lol. Just like everyone he needs a chance and hey you guys won and played good today, there is still hope yeah
 
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the last two weeks.

the jets scored 82 combined points and were playing good football. it was good to see a first ballot hall of famer like favre in person a second time. this time we played good football. nothing spectacular but a win. in a fashion we aren't use to. seeing those raider legends on the sideline was great. did anyone one see that crazy linebacker from the 70's hounding rob ryan?
 

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lol Favre is the All time leader in INTs, it should have been a given he would have gave 1 to the most overrated cb in the league
 

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the jets played down to the raiders level and the raiders did what any professional team should do, CAPITALIZE!

i just hope the rebuild for the bay area teams isnt a 5 year thing. being weak sucks ass.
 
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lol Favre is the All time leader in INTs, it should have been a given he would have gave 1 to the most overrated cb in the league
Yeah, considering the contract Clements got that you never mention, and the fact that Hall is outplaying Clements this year...








Hall is overrated and overpaid...but when you have one who's in your own secondary who isn't putting up the numbers Hall is...LOL @ that.
 
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i also think clements is over payed but he doesnt get passed on nearly as much......he actually has skills as a DB and "numbers"/"stats" dont mean shit to a DB......

clements metrics shit all over hall every year of his career.....

no way you can compare hall to clements.....NO WAY
 

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If you've been watching as much football as you claim you stupid mf.... you would know that Clements has been getting toasted more than D. Hall has this year. D. Hall gives up a lot of passes in front of him, Clements has been letting receivers get behind him and go for scores. To hell with your metrics! D. Hall is better than Clements period!

D. Hall is outplaying Clements this year just like Redrum said!
 
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ahahahahahaha yeah ok...D HALL has never outplayed clements in any of the years in thier short careers....your making your self look real stupid.....clements got paid because he was considered one of the TOP corners in the leauge (fell off with less pass rush no doubt).....D hall got paid because al thinks he can win with that shitty ass team and D hall would be the icing on the cake.....

who ever would take clements over d hall is soley a madden player IMO......go make that point on ANY nfl forum other then raiders/falcons or 9ers/bills and you will get the unbiased truth spit in your face...


DHALL is the FACE of overrated at this point...i allways hear from fans of all teams that he shouldnt of even been starting in atlanta...
fuck metrics? its the only way to gage good DBs from shitty ones.....
 
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D Hall is a primetime big play very likeable player.....

he sucks at defending and being a CB but he is one of the best athletes in the game...

he gets a lot of ints because of his balls skills and because he gets picked on game after game (even as a starter).....

i dont take anything away from what D HALL has DONE.....but i can easily point out what he HASNT (which is prove him self a even semi-solid CB)
 
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ahahahahahaha yeah ok...D HALL has never outplayed clements in any of the years in thier short careers....your making your self look real stupid.....clements got paid because he was considered one of the TOP corners in the leauge (fell off with less pass rush no doubt).....D hall got paid because al thinks he can win with that shitty ass team and D hall would be the icing on the cake.....

who ever would take clements over d hall is soley a madden player IMO......go make that point on ANY nfl forum other then raiders/falcons or 9ers/bills and you will get the unbiased truth spit in your face...


DHALL is the FACE of overrated at this point...i allways hear from fans of all teams that he shouldnt of even been starting in atlanta...
fuck metrics? its the only way to gage good DBs from shitty ones.....
I think Hall is overrated, as well, but the face of it? How is he that overrated? Seriously...he's OVERPAID, but Al signed him; what do you expect?

He doesn't get any media coverage, doesn't get magazine articles, doesn't get air time on PTI or Around The Horn...he's overrated to YOU because of all the talk he gets on here. You wouldn't even notice him as much if people on here (a bay-area based site) didn't bring him up because he's on the Raiders.


overrate verb overestimate, glorify, overvalue, oversell, make too much of, rate too highly, assess too highly, overpraise, exaggerate the worth of, overprize, think or expect too much of, think too highly of, attach to much importance to

 
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D Hall is a primetime big play very likeable player.....

he sucks at defending and being a CB but he is one of the best athletes in the game...

he gets a lot of ints because of his balls skills and because he gets picked on game after game (even as a starter).....

i dont take anything away from what D HALL has DONE.....but i can easily point out what he HASNT (which is prove him self a even semi-solid CB
Great way of putting it. I can accept that, but in that case...what about what Vince HASN'T done? I like Vince a lot, but he HASN'T proven he can be a consistant QB in this league. His decision making his poor, his patience is nonexistant, and his mental strength is questionable.



He has been ''fun'' to watch, though, if that helps.
 
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So far Hall has looked like nothing special...he's not playing much better than Fabian Washington did last year. Like Ive said before, I would've much rather traded for a player at a position that we actually needed(DT Shaun Rogers) or drafted a playmaker with the pick(WR Desaun Jackson). IMO its looking like another dumb trade by Al...
 
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He doesn't get any media coverage, doesn't get magazine articles, doesn't get air time on PTI or Around The Horn...he's overrated to YOU because of all the talk he gets on here. You wouldn't even notice him as much if people on here (a bay-area based site) didn't bring him up because he's on the Raiders.

how many CBs do get press coverage LOL? champ baily one of the best of all time cant get more then a time slot on PTI....


i think D HALL is overrated because every 1 seems to THINK he is A LOT better then he actually is.......its hard to get ANY press time when your on the falcons/raiders....the only time he DID get press coveage is when he was taking it to the house for 6.....but they dont show how he just toasted for 6 n the previous pass completion......
 
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Great way of putting it. I can accept that, but in that case...what about what Vince HASN'T done? I like Vince a lot, but he HASN'T proven he can be a consistant QB in this league. His decision making his poor, his patience is nonexistant, and his mental strength is questionable.

he hasnt proved we can count on him throughout the game.....but im still pretty confident in the man when were down by 3 or 7 and put the ball in his hands at the end of the game......VYs game winning/tieing drives have been the talk of his career....and something that wont get mentioned......

i agree that his stats suck and isnt on par with a qb that has been in the leauge for 2 plus years.....

but he......as our leader.....as our "face of the franchise" has put us in the postion to go 8-8 (when we were spouse to be top 10 drafting his rookie year) and 10-6 (playoff berth.....when we were spouse to be WORST then the previous year)

VY is allways going to catch heat untill he plays the "qb" postion......as long as my titans are winning games and he puts us in the postion to win.......i wont complain......

now back to burnt toast
 
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how many CBs do get press coverage LOL? champ baily one of the best of all time cant get more then a time slot on PTI....


i think D HALL is overrated because every 1 seems to THINK he is A LOT better then he actually is.......its hard to get ANY press time when your on the falcons/raiders....the only time he DID get press coveage is when he was taking it to the house for 6.....but they dont show how he just toasted for 6 n the previous pass completion......


And what about people's perception of Young? What has he accomplished in this league that warrants a Madden cover? Marketing, and nothing else. He's a fresh, young, black, exciting athlete...not a QB.