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So is Deangelo Hall, Dre Bly and Champ Bailey and yet no one says shit about them
well 1st off champ bailey is NOT overrated AT ALL. you serious on that?!?!?!?! and 2nd deangelo hall and dre already been talked about and how they overrated so yeah we did talk about them and we did more than newman. and i'm not saying newman is overrated i think he's overpaid easily.
 

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well 1st off champ bailey is NOT overrated AT ALL. you serious on that?!?!?!?! and 2nd deangelo hall and dre already been talked about and how they overrated so yeah we did talk about them and we did more than newman. and i'm not saying newman is overrated i think he's overpaid easily.
how is he easily overpaid? if anybody on the cowboys is overpaid, it's tony romo, not newman.
 

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Champ Bailey IS overrated, He cant cover a top tier wr 1 on 1 period, Ive seen chad johnson, T.O, and even Jerry Porter ALL make him look like a joke.
 
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Champ Bailey IS overrated, He cant cover a top tier wr 1 on 1 period, Ive seen chad johnson, T.O, and even Jerry Porter ALL make him look like a joke.
i've seen every corner in the league get burned by them dudes. i've also seen champ play real well against those wr's as well. champ is one of the best in the league and proves it with his play.

Champ Bailey got burned up last year and like Arson said everytime ive seen him go up against a good receiver he gets beat
champ was injured last year and came back ealr i belive and he still played decent. and if champ was overrated then HOLY shit newman is and i'm not sayin newman is overrated at all cause i like him but champ is better.
 

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Champ Bailey IS overrated, He cant cover a top tier wr 1 on 1 period, Ive seen chad johnson, T.O, and even Jerry Porter ALL make him look like a joke.
i myself have seen all three of these games of the mentioned receivers all putting in work against champ bailey.

so are you trying to say that champ bailey is overrated based on three games where he got shitted on?

who is better than champ bailey? asante samuel? rashean mathis?

that's cool that they've put in work against bailey, but, these are three instances, and maybe could be a couple more more instances out of 141 games bailey has played in his 10-year career in which a wide receiver has gotten the best of bailey.

there are many other top tier wide receivers(marvin harrison, reggie wayne, randy moss, steve smith) that bailey has covered in the nfl. some he might've shut down, some he might've allowed a couple catches.

anyways, cornerbacks will give up catches...just so happens that champ bailey is one of the best at allowing the fewest amount of catches. you might say he gave up a lot of catches because he has high tackle totals, but he is also a very good run defender.
 
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WELL.. FOR ONE HE WAS DRAFTED 5TH OVERALL, HE’S GOOD BUT NOT GREAT. DEFINITELY NOT GREAT ENOUGH TO WARRANT THAT HIGH OF A DRAFT PICK. HIS STATS ARE CONSISTANT, BUT NOT EXCELLENT. TEAMS DON’T GAME PLAN AROUND THIS GUY. HE DOESN’T TAKE AWAY THE SIDE OF THE FIELD HE PLAYS ON LIKE SOMEONE LIKE CHAMP BAILEY OR CHARLES WOODSON( IN HIS PRIME), OR NNAMDI ASOMUGHA DOES. HE’S A PRETTY GOOD TACKLER BUT HE’S ALSO NEVER HAD MORE THAN 4 INT’S IN A SEASON. THAT’S NOT AN ELITE DB. AND IT’S NOT BECAUSE HE DOESN’T GET THROWN AT. HE GETS THROWN AT AND BURNT ON OCCASION AS ALL DB’S DO BUT HE DOESN’T COMMAND THAT TYPE OF RESPECT FROM QB’S.

BASICALLY HE GETS HYPED LIKE HE’S AN ELITE CORNERBACK BUT IT’S ONLY BECAUSE HE’S THE BEST CORNERBACK THE COWBOYS HAVE. I’M NOT SAYING HE’S NOT GOOD. HE IS. HE’S ABOVE AVERAGE. BUT HE IS DEFINITELY OVERRATED.
 

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WELL.. FOR ONE HE WAS DRAFTED 5TH OVERALL, HE’S GOOD BUT NOT GREAT. DEFINITELY NOT GREAT ENOUGH TO WARRANT THAT HIGH OF A DRAFT PICK. HIS STATS ARE CONSISTANT, BUT NOT EXCELLENT. TEAMS DON’T GAME PLAN AROUND THIS GUY. HE DOESN’T TAKE AWAY THE SIDE OF THE FIELD HE PLAYS ON LIKE SOMEONE LIKE CHAMP BAILEY OR CHARLES WOODSON( IN HIS PRIME), OR NNAMDI ASOMUGHA DOES. HE’S A PRETTY GOOD TACKLER BUT HE’S ALSO NEVER HAD MORE THAN 4 INT’S IN A SEASON. THAT’S NOT AN ELITE DB. AND IT’S NOT BECAUSE HE DOESN’T GET THROWN AT. HE GETS THROWN AT AND BURNT ON OCCASION AS ALL DB’S DO BUT HE DOESN’T COMMAND THAT TYPE OF RESPECT FROM QB’S.

BASICALLY HE GETS HYPED LIKE HE’S AN ELITE CORNERBACK BUT IT’S ONLY BECAUSE HE’S THE BEST CORNERBACK THE COWBOYS HAVE. I’M NOT SAYING HE’S NOT GOOD. HE IS. HE’S ABOVE AVERAGE. BUT HE IS DEFINITELY OVERRATED.
trust me, he takes away his half of the field. i'll agree, he might've not done it as well in this last season as he did in the 2005 and 2006 season since he was injured throughout most of the season.

how are you gonna compare nnamdi to terence? don't get me wrong, i like nnamdi. and i know nnamdi pulled down 8 in 2006, but last year he had 1, thus having 9 for his career.

and these two have been in the league since 2003, and terence newman got 16 picks.

and since he doesn't command respect from qb's, won't that make him somewhat underrated?

and who is giving terence newman hype? what sports shows are giving him hype? only hype newman ever received was because he and jon kitna were going back and forth before the cowboys and lions game last year.

no offense, but yeah, if you wanna consider a cornerback who gave up 4 or 5 touchdowns in the last three years overrated, feel free to do so.
 
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how are you gonna compare nnamdi to terence? don't get me wrong, i like nnamdi..
YOU'RE RIGHT.. I KNOW I SHOULDN'T. NO NFL EXPERTS DO, BECAUSE IT'S WIDELY KNOWN THAT NNAMDI IS BETTER. NNAMDI IS EASILY ONE OF THE TOP 3 CORNERS IN THE NFL. BUT I'M JUST A DUDE ON A FORUM SO I'LL COMPARE THE TWO.

and i know nnamdi pulled down 8 in 2006, but last year he had 1, thus having 9 for his career...
DO YOU WATCH THE RAIDERS PLAY? THE REASON HE ONLY HAD 1 PICK WAS BECAUSE NO ONE THREW TO HIM. I THINK HE HAD ONE PASS COMPLETED ON HIM AND THAT WAS PEYTON MANNING TO REGGIE WAYNE. THE COVERAGE WAS PERFECT BUT THE CATCH WAS FREAKISH.


and these two have been in the league since 2003, and terence newman got 16 picks....

NNAMDI TOOK A WHILE TO DEVELOPE AND HAD A SLOW START IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAREER. HE IS NOW REGARDED AS ONE OF THE BEST CORNERS IN THE NFL, PERIOD. HE'S BIGGER, BETTER IN COVERAGE AND PLAYS A TYPE OF MAN COVERAGE THAT'S ALMOST UNHEARD OF IN TODAYS NFL, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE HIS SIZE. HIS RANGE AND FLUIDITY OF MOTION IS VIRTUALLY PERFECT. HIS AWARENESS IS OFF THE CHARTS. I GUARANTEE YOU JERRY JONES WOULD TRADE NEWMAN IN A HEARTBEAT FOR ASOMUGHA. CORNERS LIKE HIM ONLY COME AROUND MAYBE ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS.


and since he doesn't command respect from qb's, won't that make him somewhat underrated?
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HE DOESN'T COMMAND SERIOUS RESPECT FROM QB'S OR OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE IS A GOOD CORNER, BUT STILL ONE WHO CAN BE BEAT. THEY DON'T TRY WITH NNAMDI.


and who is giving terence newman hype? what sports shows are giving him hype?.
YOU, THE NFL NETWORK, FOX SPORTS, TONS OF COWBOY FANS. THEY TALK ABOUT HIM LIKE HE IS BETTER THAN HE IS. THESE ARE MEDIA TYPES, MIND YOU. NOT COACHES. NOT PLAYERS. NOT HALL OF FAMERS, ETC PEOPLE WHO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE GAME.
 

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I wouldnt really consider either of those burning, against TO, he had bad positioning, and didnt make the tackle, the other 1, he looks like he miscalculated where the ball was going to be at, happens to every1, but he did let the WR get ahead of him...
 
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Nnamdi no doubt is one of the top 3 corners in the league. Just the fact that he allowed the least amount of completions out of any cb in the league last season speaks for itself. He's turned into a shutdown corner similar to how c. woodson used to be back in his early years.