NEWMAN AND BARBER GET NEW CONTRACTS

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LMFAO @ barber being a top 5 RB

Now, thats a buncha bull shit

1 LaDainian Tomlinson
2 Adrian Peterson
3 Brian Westbrook
4 Willie Parker
5 Jamal Lewis
6 Clinton Portis
7 Edgerrin James
8 Willis McGahee
9 Fred Taylor
10 Thomas Jones
11 Marshawn Lynch
12 LenDale White
13 Frank Gore
14 Joseph Addai
15 Justin Fargas
16 Brandon Jacobs
17 Steven Jackson
18 Marion Barber
19 Ryan Grant
20 Earnest Graham

Looks like hes a top 20 rb lmao, on the bottom half of rbs in the league according to stats


The same Newman who was ranked 23rd tied with Clements??

23 Terence Newman DAL CB 50 tackles 44 solo 6 assisted 0.0 sacks 17 pass defense 4 int 1 td 1 forced fumbles

23 Nate Clements SF CB 92 tackles 77 solo 15 assisted 1.0 sack 18 pass defense 4 int 0 td 3 forced fumbles

aside from 1 TD and same amount of INTs, looks like Nate is killin Newman in all categories


so once again

LMFAO @ them being "top 5 players"


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chree, everyone time you post something stupid, and every time i tell myself there is no way you can out do that last dumbass post, and somehow you pull it off.

Heres what the NFL has ranked as of last years season in fantasy points.

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80138817&template=with-video&confirm=true

And, if you wanna bring up that old shit list, you do know barber was 2nd in TDs behind LT. That list has nothing but starters that why barber is so low on it, he should be higher .

lol and u wanna bring up newman compared to clements?! hahaha you do know that newman didnt play in 5 games right? haha he was just as good as nate was and played 3/4 the season. im pretty sure if he played all 17 games he would have done better. but i dont see why that would matter we still went 13-3 but thats nothing i guess seeing how the niners have nate clements, the $80 million dollar average DB. if his agent is gettin him that kind of money shit, might as well give Jaqcues Reeves that dudes number so he can get paid too.
 
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he has the same exact running style as CHRIS BROWN....its extremly exciting to watch.....but players cant keep playing like that...i dont care how tough you are......chris brown had one good season and he started getting injured after that good season....i agree he need to learn how to take it outta bounds with his style of running....the hits add up pretty quick in the nfl these days
he will most likely be splitting the carries with felix jones
 
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but he will most likely be the "starting" back....if he isnt....hes not worth that much money....

why would you say that, he really hasnt proved himself of his capablities yet, so far i think hes average 6 yards a carry and 1 touchdown a game, seems like a good investment to me. only time will tell
 

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chree, everyone time you post something stupid, and every time i tell myself there is no way you can out do that last dumbass post, and somehow you pull it off.

Heres what the NFL has ranked as of last years season in fantasy points.

http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story?id=09000d5d80138817&template=with-video&confirm=true

And, if you wanna bring up that old shit list, you do know barber was 2nd in TDs behind LT. That list has nothing but starters that why barber is so low on it, he should be higher .

lol and u wanna bring up newman compared to clements?! hahaha you do know that newman didnt play in 5 games right? haha he was just as good as nate was and played 3/4 the season. im pretty sure if he played all 17 games he would have done better. but i dont see why that would matter we still went 13-3 but thats nothing i guess seeing how the niners have nate clements, the $80 million dollar average DB. if his agent is gettin him that kind of money shit, might as well give Jaqcues Reeves that dudes number so he can get paid too.
In Rushing tds barber was tied for 5th among rbs.
and lmfao @ being a dumbfuck who doesnt read shit, Nates deal was for 6 years, 64 mil, the performance he had knocked off 2 years, read on it fool, All u give is ifs and buts, If Newman played those games, he prolly woulda got burned and gave up lots of plays, ifs can go both ways.
But
tell me this

what the fuck does fantasy football have to do with how they are playing? fantasy gives large amounts for TDs, thats not what its about, he got lots of TDs cuz jones couldnt get in when they got close enough, the cowgirls are garbage, all this bragging about wins, but yet its been 12 years since they have won a game that truely matters, 1 that will bring them closer to a ring, fuck the chokeboys,

In Yards, he was on the bottom half of the league (32 teams), There was 2 rbs, 1 got all the TDs, no shit,m doesnt make him a top 5 fuckin RB for that
 
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LOL @ chree arguing bout another team sayin they suck when the 9ers are worse...

shit atleast i know the raiders suck, well hopefully we gonnna start to suck less.. lol.. but damn, chree thinks the 9ers are the best.... listenin to khaled too much... WE THE BEST!

by the way, who gives a fuck??
the fuck do i care, its chree that looks like the dumbfuck. :confused:
 
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Just to clear up something about Barber III; last year he was not the 3rd down/goal line back like he was before, at least not for the better part of the season. They changed the RB set up per posession. In other words, when Dallas got the ball Barber would run every situation until a turn of posession. When they got the ball back, Jones would take over in the same manner. The only exception to this rule was CRITICAL circumstances in which Barber would run the ball at the goal line. So Jones DID get his fair share of touches at the goal line and did not produce accordingly. Jones was grossly outperformed and was subsequently shipped out.

Barber rushed for close to 1,000 yards and 10 TD's in this setup.

In terns of ability, talent and to some extent performance, he is a top 5 RB, But certainly he is not expected to finish at the top of these statistical catagories.
 
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Just to clear up something about Barber III; last year he was not the 3rd down/goal line back like he was before, at least not for the better part of the season. They changed the RB set up per posession. In other words, when Dallas got the ball Barber would run every situation until a turn of posession. When they got the ball back, Jones would take over in the same manner. The only exception to this rule was CRITICAL circumstances in which Barber would run the ball at the goal line. So Jones DID get his fair share of touches at the goal line and did not produce accordingly. Jones was grossly outperformed and was subsequently shipped out.

Barber rushed for close to 1,000 yards and 10 TD's in this setup.

In terns of ability, talent and to some extent performance, he is a top 5 RB, But certainly he is not expected to finish at the top of these statistical catagories.

where the hell did you get that info from?!? lol barber never wore the starter tag, never started any game (except the playoff game) and he was always the 3rd down back. dont know where your getting your info from but whoever gave it to you is snorting more coke then Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown on a trip to Columbia
 
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where the hell did you get that info from?!? lol barber never wore the starter tag, never started any game (except the playoff game) and he was always the 3rd down back. dont know where your getting your info from but whoever gave it to you is snorting more coke then Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown on a trip to Columbia
1. I received all my info from watching the games and paying close attention to every touch Barber had last season. You are obviously a Cowboys fan and I do not doubt that you watched every game possible, but clearly you were not paying close enough attention.

2. I never said Barber was the starter, or as you said, wore the "starter tag". All I did was present a scenerio to explain how they ran the ball: "when Dallas got the ball Barber would run every situation until a turn of posession." That was not to say that he started the game. And a "starter" is simply someone who runs the ball on the first set of downs, that is all.

3. Barber had 204 carries compared to Jones' 164. Are you going to tell me that a 3rd down/goal line back had 40 more carries? Now look at the two previous seasons when Barber WAS a 3rd down/goal line back:

In 2005 and 2006 Jones had 257 and 267 carries, respectively.
In 2005 and 2006 Barber had 138 and 135 carries, respectively.

Do you see the difference?
 

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You are obviously a Cowboys fan and I do not doubt that you watched every game possible, but clearly you were not paying close enough attention.
Thats where ur wrong, he was a Raider fan, then decided to jump on the cowboy bandwagon
 
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In Rushing tds barber was tied for 5th among rbs.
and what the fuck does fantasy football have to do with how they are playing? fantasy gives large amounts for TDs, thats not what its about, he got lots of TDs cuz jones couldnt get in when they got close enough, the cowgirls are garbage, all this bragging about wins, but yet its been 12 years since they have won a game that truely matters, 1 that will bring them closer to a ring, fuck the chokeboys,

In Yards, he was on the bottom half of the league (32 teams), There was 2 rbs, 1 got all the TDs, no shit,m doesnt make him a top 5 fuckin RB for that
I wish god would shed some mercy on this retard.......

Fantasy stats show you how much more work a player does and what he accomplishes. I thought you knew this, dont you and Trent Dilfer play in the same fantasy league?..hmm w/e

Heres some visuals between our teams RB, you tell me whos got the better guy and who deserves to get the kind of money Barber got. okay? ...k but keep in mind Barber wasnt a starter.

2006 RB Touchdown Leaders


2007 RB Touchdown Leaders



and yeah a lot of MB3 touchdowns where from the redzone, but i guess you wont know anything about that area since your team hasnt been there for a couple of years.


Chree said:
lmfao @ being a dumbfuck who doesnt read shit, Nates deal was for 6 years, 64 mil, the performance he had knocked off 2 years, read on it fool, All u give is ifs and buts, If Newman played those games, he prolly woulda got burned and gave up lots of plays, ifs can go both ways.

LMAO at some who actually cares about Nate Clements contract! ahahahah. I care as much as I do about his contract as much as Micheal Vick cares about pitbulls.

Chree said:
If Newman played those games, he prolly woulda got burned and gave up lots of plays, ifs can go both ways.
T-New shits on Clements, there is no IF or BUTS about it. If newman was healthier his stats would be better, no doubt about it.
 
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1. I received all my info from watching the games and paying close attention to every touch Barber had last season. You are obviously a Cowboys fan and I do not doubt that you watched every game possible, but clearly you were not paying close enough attention.

2. I never said Barber was the starter, or as you said, wore the "starter tag". All I did was present a scenerio to explain how they ran the ball: "when Dallas got the ball Barber would run every situation until a turn of posession." That was not to say that he started the game. And a "starter" is simply someone who runs the ball on the first set of downs, that is all.

3. Barber had 204 carries compared to Jones' 164. Are you going to tell me that a 3rd down/goal line back had 40 more carries? Now look at the two previous seasons when Barber WAS a 3rd down/goal line back:

In 2005 and 2006 Jones had 257 and 267 carries, respectively.
In 2005 and 2006 Barber had 138 and 135 carries, respectively.

Do you see the difference?
alright well i agree with a little bit with what your saying but if you were paying real close attention you would know how dallas plays. I cant tell your they always started out with a run to the right every game for about 5 weeks, always got stopped after 4 yards or close to it. After that dallas opened up a lot of the passing game leaving JJ un-used. Barber was the 3rd 4th down back and since the BOYS usually needed MB3 to pick up the 1st he had a lot more carriers. JJ was always stopped at the line of behind the line, he only had a hand full of runs i can even remember one being against the giants. (second time we played them) and when things were good for the BOYS in the 4th qtr, MB3 ran it most of the time. So i really dont see what your talkin about.
 

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I wish god would shed some mercy on this retard.......
You call some1 a retard then say

Fantasy stats show you how much more work a player does and what he accomplishes.
Comparing Fantasy STATS/POINTS to their performance is almost as bad as determining their skills based on madden

okay? ...k but keep in mind Barber wasnt a started.
wasnt a started? okay retard

2006 RB Touchdown Leaders


2007 RB Touchdown Leaders




Who Said Anything about 2006? Since when does getting Redzone TDs = being a "top 5 player"? Kinda funny how u make him a top 5 by filtering it by tds, but yet in YARDS he is below Gore, and once again, trynna make it a Barber vs Gore thing, where did i compare the 2? this is about Barber right?

lmfao then u go on to talk shit about how the niners didnt score much, well if (since u love the word if so much) they had a better OC, then im sure he would have had much more TDs


T-New shits on Clements, there is no IF or BUTS about it.
no if or buts right?

If newman was healthier his stats would be better, no doubt about it.
A Bit contradictory eh?

Well he WASNT healthier, so he WASNT better

get it?
 
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chree said:
Who Said Anything about 2006? Since when does getting Redzone TDs = being a "top 5 player"? Kinda funny how u make him a top 5 by filtering it by tds, but yet in YARDS he is below Gore, and once again, trynna make it a Barber vs Gore thing, where did i compare the 2? this is about Barber right?
lol your sad homie. Id rather have a RB that scores TDs and helps when games then a RB who doesnt score TDs and only picks up yards and still loses. Touchdowns win games not yards. And in case you didnt see it MB3 was top 5 in rushing TD's back to back.

I only bring Gore into the picture because you wanna roast on my RB and ill roast on yours. I remember 2 training camps ago it was A. Smith your niner fans were jocking hella hard, then Gore started playing better and he became the all star to you fans. Then last trainning camp all you did was talk Gore, then he never showed up. It just funny to see you guys pick the lucky player that never preforms during the year. Cant wait to see who it is this year. Ill guess tho.....Shaun Hill?

its just like your SIG man, you niner fans live in the past, Its montana this and rice that. when none of that shit matters anymore. winning 5 championship back in the day anit gonna make your team better today.
 
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I'll explain exactly what I'm talkin about. Click here to look over the situational statistics. Or just read on..

Carries:
1st Down: 108
2nd Down: 64
3rd Down: 24
4th Down: 5

Now how does a 3rd down/goal line back get 85% of his carries on first and second down?
 

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lol your sad homie. Id rather have a RB that scores TDs and helps when games then a RB who doesnt score TDs and only picks up yards and still loses. Touchdowns win games not yards. And in case you didnt see it MB3 was top 5 in rushing TD's back to back.
it sure would help if we had a OC that would get us close enuff to let gore run in easily, like Barber did....
 
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