Mistah Fab and Clyde Carson blew it for the Bay

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Oct 28, 2003
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The Bay as a whole blew it when they handed their YOUTH MOVEMENT to E-40 and 2Short. Not hating, but the game and the larger public had already decided they didn't really dig 40's rap style and that Short was a go to guy when you needed a pimp verse or someone to yell out BITCH...Had the movement stayed wih fresh faces as artist and maybe proven producers (Like E-A-Ski and Ric Roc for exsample) then the people would have been more interested. Because outside of here people were like "what's that going on in the Bay???" and then the second thought was, "Ohhh 40...I never did like his style." I like 40 and so does alot of Bay people, but the rest of the country never liked his style and him being the leader of the new school was good for an immediate buzz, but not for the long haul.
 
Feb 16, 2006
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what i dont understand is why KEAK didnt capitalize on his shit.....dude was all over MTV, getting major promotion from tell me when to go, and dude hasnt done shit since then.....makes you scratch your head.
He got a deal with Koch and he was supposed to have an album out but it got pushed back to february (probably gonna get pushed back some more)
 
Apr 25, 2005
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There would have never been a buzz on the bay area if it was not for 40. Ask your self who brought mtv my block, BET hype on hyphy, Pepsi smash, and all the media outlets to the bay?? To say that the rest of the country is not feeling 40 let me give you a run down on the soundscans album is at 519,700units. SF OAK SAN JOSE 69,426 LOS ANGELES 56,499 SACRAMENTO-STOCKTON 32,579 SEATTLE 18,316 DETROIT 13,902 PHOENIX 13,167
ATLANTA 11,558 SAN DIEGO 10,343 DENVER 9,470 VEGAS 9,323
FRESNO 8,829 PORTLAND 9,196 CHICAGO 7,614 WASHINGTON DC 6,897
KANSAS CITY 6,881 NEW YORK NEWYORK 6,405 MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL 5,973
DALLAS-FT WORTH 5,914 CLEAVLAND 4,686 SALT LAKE CITY4,320
PHILADELPHIA 4,097 TUCSON 4,020 TAMPA FL 3,767 ALBUQUERQUE 3,748
MIAMI 3,573 INDIANAPOLIS 3,494 BOSTON 3,487 ORLANDO FL 3,427
HOUSTON 3,425 OKLAHOMA CITY 3,305 NASHVILLE 2,962 HAWAII 2,924
LOUISVILLE 2,908 COLORADO SPRINGS 2,894 BALTIMORE 2,860
CHARLOTTE,NC 2,643 SPOKANE 2,620 COLUMBUS OH 2,617
NORFOLK VA 2,561 ST LOUIS 2,534 RICHMOND VA 2,530
GREENVILE SOUTH CAROLINA 2,461 RALEIGH NC 2,414 MILWAUKEE 2,410
BATON ROUGE 2,386 CINCINNATI 2,349 JACKSONVILLE FL 2,292
NEW ORLEANS 2,249 MOBILE AL 2,240 GRAND RAPIDS MI 2,063
SAN ANTONIO 1,965 OMAHA 1,920
There are tons of cities where over a thousand copies were sold in the east coast and the south. In the last 18 MONTHS these are the cities we've done PAID concerts at NEW YORK CITY 2X, BOSTON 2X, MIAMI, ORLANDO 2X, INDIANPOLIS,FT WAYNE, HAWAII, ANCHORAGE, MEMPHIS,OMAHA, ATLANTA 2X, HOUSTON 2X, TULSA, KANSAS CITY,TAMPA, WICHITA, DENVER 4X, CLEAVLAND 2X, RALEIGH, WASHINGTON DC, NORFOLK,CHICAGO, PHILLY, DETROIT 3X, MINNIEAPOLIS 2X, MILWAUKEE, EL PASO,ALBURQU CHAROLETTE, GREENVILLE SC, JAPAN, WINDSOR CANADA, BOISE 2X, SALT LAKE CITY 2X, MEXICO 3X, VANCOUVER CANADA, and I did not even get into the west coast dates in cali,oregon,washington,arizona, and nevada. 40 been doing shows in all those cities before the last album came out as well. You cant say that other regions dont fuck with 40 like that. 40 has 4 gold records and a platinum record. 40 SOLD more records in seattle alone then anybody did from the bay in 2007 worldwide indie or on a major.Further more he sold more records in the state of Michigan alone then any other bay release in 07. On my daughter,god,and everything I love there is a offer on the table right now for a 45 city world tour with only 8 of those dates on the west coast. When I say world im talking 6 cities in Europe, 5 in Canada, and 34 us dates. If people did not fuck with him outside the west then house of blues, AEG LIVE, AND LIVE NATION concert promoters would not invest there money into it.
The worlds favorite south rappers grew up on 40 Nitti,TI,LUDA,RICK ROSS, NELLY,GUCCI MANE,YOUNG JOC,JEEZY, AND GOODIE MOB. Just think when 40 was at his peak what did JIVE records do? They gave up on rap music and there urban department. 40 did not stop making great albums JIVE stoped being a great RAP record label. Rep your city was a nation wide hit song and jive fell a sleep on it. Before ghetto report card nobody in the industry at all gave a fuck about the bay anymore.
The truth is at the end of the day after 40 came out nobody followed with a HIT song period.The real question is with so many rappers in the bay why cant any1 else make a nationwide hit song?The blame is on everybody u cant just point the finger at clyde and fab there the ones who went and got deals. This time around people will be smart and piggy back off 40 new album coming out in 08 when he does it all again. The Ball street journal is going to do it again. The album is a fuckin problem with tremendous blaps on that bitch. you aint never heard a street fixture call him a sucka or a major rapper have problems with dude cuz hes well resprected in both communities. The only people agansit him in the yay are a few rappers and there friends! As a westcoast artist with no help from dr dre {eazye,ice cube,snoop,xzibit,game,tupac,dog pound} 40 has a lot of acomplishments and theres no way you can erase his history in the game. What would the bay be with without water? think about it.
CHUCH!
Senator speaking real shit. So when you gonna give us more info on the Ball Street Journal (like some features, producers, when we can expect a single)?
 
Jun 6, 2005
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There would have never been a buzz on the bay area if it was not for 40. Ask your self who brought mtv my block, BET hype on hyphy, Pepsi smash, and all the media outlets to the bay?? To say that the rest of the country is not feeling 40 let me give you a run down on the soundscans album is at 519,700units. SF OAK SAN JOSE 69,426 LOS ANGELES 56,499 SACRAMENTO-STOCKTON 32,579 SEATTLE 18,316 DETROIT 13,902 PHOENIX 13,167
ATLANTA 11,558 SAN DIEGO 10,343 DENVER 9,470 VEGAS 9,323
FRESNO 8,829 PORTLAND 9,196 CHICAGO 7,614 WASHINGTON DC 6,897
KANSAS CITY 6,881 NEW YORK NEWYORK 6,405 MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL 5,973
DALLAS-FT WORTH 5,914 CLEAVLAND 4,686 SALT LAKE CITY4,320
PHILADELPHIA 4,097 TUCSON 4,020 TAMPA FL 3,767 ALBUQUERQUE 3,748
MIAMI 3,573 INDIANAPOLIS 3,494 BOSTON 3,487 ORLANDO FL 3,427
HOUSTON 3,425 OKLAHOMA CITY 3,305 NASHVILLE 2,962 HAWAII 2,924
LOUISVILLE 2,908 COLORADO SPRINGS 2,894 BALTIMORE 2,860
CHARLOTTE,NC 2,643 SPOKANE 2,620 COLUMBUS OH 2,617
NORFOLK VA 2,561 ST LOUIS 2,534 RICHMOND VA 2,530
GREENVILE SOUTH CAROLINA 2,461 RALEIGH NC 2,414 MILWAUKEE 2,410
BATON ROUGE 2,386 CINCINNATI 2,349 JACKSONVILLE FL 2,292
NEW ORLEANS 2,249 MOBILE AL 2,240 GRAND RAPIDS MI 2,063
SAN ANTONIO 1,965 OMAHA 1,920
There are tons of cities where over a thousand copies were sold in the east coast and the south. In the last 18 MONTHS these are the cities we've done PAID concerts at NEW YORK CITY 2X, BOSTON 2X, MIAMI, ORLANDO 2X, INDIANPOLIS,FT WAYNE, HAWAII, ANCHORAGE, MEMPHIS,OMAHA, ATLANTA 2X, HOUSTON 2X, TULSA, KANSAS CITY,TAMPA, WICHITA, DENVER 4X, CLEAVLAND 2X, RALEIGH, WASHINGTON DC, NORFOLK,CHICAGO, PHILLY, DETROIT 3X, MINNIEAPOLIS 2X, MILWAUKEE, EL PASO,ALBURQU CHAROLETTE, GREENVILLE SC, JAPAN, WINDSOR CANADA, BOISE 2X, SALT LAKE CITY 2X, MEXICO 3X, VANCOUVER CANADA, and I did not even get into the west coast dates in cali,oregon,washington,arizona, and nevada. 40 been doing shows in all those cities before the last album came out as well. You cant say that other regions dont fuck with 40 like that. 40 has 4 gold records and a platinum record. 40 SOLD more records in seattle alone then anybody did from the bay in 2007 worldwide indie or on a major.Further more he sold more records in the state of Michigan alone then any other bay release in 07. On my daughter,god,and everything I love there is a offer on the table right now for a 45 city world tour with only 8 of those dates on the west coast. When I say world im talking 6 cities in Europe, 5 in Canada, and 34 us dates. If people did not fuck with him outside the west then house of blues, AEG LIVE, AND LIVE NATION concert promoters would not invest there money into it.
The worlds favorite south rappers grew up on 40 Nitti,TI,LUDA,RICK ROSS, NELLY,GUCCI MANE,YOUNG JOC,JEEZY, AND GOODIE MOB. Just think when 40 was at his peak what did JIVE records do? They gave up on rap music and there urban department. 40 did not stop making great albums JIVE stoped being a great RAP record label. Rep your city was a nation wide hit song and jive fell a sleep on it. Before ghetto report card nobody in the industry at all gave a fuck about the bay anymore.
The truth is at the end of the day after 40 came out nobody followed with a HIT song period.The real question is with so many rappers in the bay why cant any1 else make a nationwide hit song?The blame is on everybody u cant just point the finger at clyde and fab there the ones who went and got deals. This time around people will be smart and piggy back off 40 new album coming out in 08 when he does it all again. The Ball street journal is going to do it again. The album is a fuckin problem with tremendous blaps on that bitch. you aint never heard a street fixture call him a sucka or a major rapper have problems with dude cuz hes well resprected in both communities. The only people agansit him in the yay are a few rappers and there friends! As a westcoast artist with no help from dr dre {eazye,ice cube,snoop,xzibit,game,tupac,dog pound} 40 has a lot of acomplishments and theres no way you can erase his history in the game. What would the bay be with without water? think about it.


That's the truth.
 
May 26, 2006
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i dont care what nobody says you got to have some serious money behind you to make it big. clyde and fab are good artists but they arent gettin the push they need. i guarantee if they do come out with a major release the labels wont support them like they should.
 
Dec 13, 2006
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why do it even matter if they come out major or not as long as they got distribution u can go buy they shit who cares if the bay goes mainstream or not as long as they keep droppin good music then support it regardless of the label they on