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Good link! Lou Dobbs is, I think, one of the ONLY mainstream journalists actually reporting on these issues anymore.

Just watched it. Now maybe the North American Union and the Europen Union will merge. UH OH!
 

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what purpose will it serve to create a union between mexico and canada?
And this american thing AH LA european union...uhm was it not in america with these 13 original colonies created a Union? all these SUGGESTIONS by cfr are well and good but they seem to be only that and it only points and hints that the presidents agree on their plan...it seems more like they agree on what is needed with the tri-country relations not exactly that they want this super america type thing......
just throwin some stuff out there
 

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Talus said:
what purpose will it serve to create a union between mexico and canada?
And this american thing AH LA european union...uhm was it not in america with these 13 original colonies created a Union? all these SUGGESTIONS by cfr are well and good but they seem to be only that and it only points and hints that the presidents agree on their plan...it seems more like they agree on what is needed with the tri-country relations not exactly that they want this super america type thing......
just throwin some stuff out there

You don't make any sense. I suggest you read up on the subject before you post here again.
 
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@Hersey

Early when you answered my question of "what are our options?" in regards to this apparent progression towards an AU, you responded that we have two, one spiritual and one natural. However the basis of the spiritual path you outlined was leaving the US. First, I don't believe you ever answered this question, but if the purpose behind this whole movement is to eventually unite the world under a singular governmental entity, where could one go to that would be any better than here? Secondly, I am curious as to why the spiritual answer would not be staying put and fighting for what you believed was right, as opposed to that being the natural answer. Good looking on your info homey.
 

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Early when you answered my question of "what are our options?" in regards to this apparent progression towards an AU, you responded that we have two, one spiritual and one natural.
correct.

However the basis of the spiritual path you outlined was leaving the US.
Incorrect. The basis was to REPENT OR PERISH and to prepare yourself physically and spiritually.

First, I don't believe you ever answered this question
In haste I skipped over it. My apologies.

but if the purpose behind this whole movement is to eventually unite the world under a singular governmental entity, where could one go to that would be any better than here?
Your mind is going to FLIP when you read this, but ISRAEL is where you need to be if you want to be safe. Am I saying Israel will be a utopia? Nope. Will it be safer than the united states? Yes. The united states of america is FINISHED. This country will SOON get its LAST warning, but the majority of people will ignore it. When everything goes haywire they'll remember, but by that time it will be too late. When they unify everything you will be REQUIRED to do as they say and use the currency they tell you. If not, there is NO WAY you will be able to buy or sell. When everything is fully implemented you'll be tangled in the spider web, and you'll have no way out. However, your main concern should be leaving the united states because the united states will soon cease to exist. Are you going to escape the one world currency, not being able to buy and purchase unless you use it, or escape being labeled as a criminal because of your beliefs? No. But, once again your main concern should be leaving the united states because the united states will soon cease to exist.

Secondly, I am curious as to why the spiritual answer would not be staying put and fighting for what you believed was right, as opposed to that being the natural answer.
If the answer is spiritual why would it mention anything about staying put and fighting? If you don't fight against flesh and blood and the wapons of war are not carnal why place emphasis on these things? I can tell you to stay and fight all day long, but what are the chances of you actually doing it? Better yet, how will it benefit you as a person in the long run?

Also, the call is to FLEE Babylon. The call is to not to stay within babylon or fight for her.
 

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@HERESY
i dont got that much time...but i one of my points was just this "AU"
Or american union ...pfft America IS a union..hence the UNITED part in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...
just pointing out what should be friggin obvious maybe you should study up before you speak.
 

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@HERESY
i dont got that much time...but i one of my points was just this "AU"
Or american union ...pfft America IS a union..hence the UNITED part in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...
just pointing out what should be friggin obvious maybe you should study up before you speak.
You don't make any sense. I have time, and I 'll actually tell you why you don't make sense. First off, no one has implied that america is not a union.ALL of the states within america are bound by the constitution and the supreme court. Yes, states can operate on an independent level, but the control and independence the individual states have is limited. Can California sign a nuclear treaty with Russia? No. Can Florida sign a trade deal with Iraq? No. Now compare that to the countires that comprise the EU. Can Britain go to war when they want? Yes. Can Germany sign a trade deal with China if it chooses? Yes. Do you not see the difference? The united states is DIFFERENT from the EU, but a NORTH AMERICAN UNION would be very similar to the EU.

Second of all, no one said anything about an american union. We are talking about a PAN AMERICAN/NORTH AMERICAN UNION. The members of this union are the countries that comprise NORTH AMERICA. Next time use the correct terminology.

Now, here is why I said you don't make any sense:

what purpose will it serve to create a union between mexico and canada? And this american thing AH LA european union...uhm was it not in america with these 13 original colonies created a Union?
1. If you had hit the links provided you would know the purpose of creating a union between the three countries.

2. Comparing The EU to the Thirteen Colonies is like comparing apples to oranges. Europe is a continent, but america is NOT. The members of the EU are COUNTRIES that still operate with a vast amount of independence. Do similarities exist between the EU and the united states? Yes, but these similarities are minimal.

these SUGGESTIONS by cfr are well and good but they seem to be only that and it only points and hints that the presidents agree on their plan.
These are not "SUGGESTIONS" made by the CFR, and I seriously doubt you knew what the CFR was before you read this thread. If you knew anything about the organization you wouldn't have said that. In addition, the presidents of all three countries involved have already signed on the dotted line. So much for only hinting at an agreement.

http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/Mar/23-209281.html

it seems more like they agree on what is needed with the tri-country relations not exactly that they want this super america type thing......just throwin some stuff out there
Read this link again.

http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/Mar/23-209281.html
 

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Honestly I think you need to read the shit aswell...

Identify, develop, and deploy new technologies to advance our shared security goals and promote the legitimate flow of people and goods across our borders.

It talks about SHARED security goals and shared security threats


ALSO the EU is still in debate about its constitution if my memory serves me
 

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Honestly I think you need to read the shit aswell...
Listen, I've known about this type of madness for years. You are a "johnny come lately" who obviously types for the hell of it. If we were to conduct a poll where the readers are asked who should read, I can stake my membership on this site that if 100 people voted you would have LESS than 10% of the votes. Again, NOTHING you have typed has made ANY sense. You are comparing the CURRENT united states of america to the EU!!! LMAO!

Identify, develop, and deploy new technologies to advance our shared security goals and promote the legitimate flow of people and goods across our borders.
Now, since you obviously like to talk about things you don't know about, I would like for you to explain what new technologies they are developing and wish to deploy, and I would like for you to explain how they wish to promote the legitimate flow of people and goods across the border.

It talks about SHARED security goals and shared security threats
LMAO! Please define shared security goals and shared security threats. :dead:

ALSO the EU is still in debate about its constitution if my memory serves me
So? And, I am still in debate as to if I want to eat pizza or cocoa pebbles. The point is I am still going to eat. The point is the EU is still a UNIFICATION of many COUNTRIES, but what the HELL does not having a constitution have to do with anything? Again, READ this link:

http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/Mar/23-209281.html

They have already signed this deal into effect and the ONLY way it WON'T happen is if one of the countries backout (UNLIKELY), one of the countries is destroyed, or the people wage a MASSIVE revolt.