Last Night I heard some shit maybe Embarrassed Im from The Bay!

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i feel what you're sayin in this thread, about alotta the content in the lyrics that us bay rapperz come wit. and it does need to change, and i've been seein a slow change, but i mean itz gone take time for all the weak catz out here to finally admit their mistakez and get the fuck outta the game, lol.

And yes, production does need to be better on projects. the reason i think people often end up wit all them garbage ass beats on their albumz in that alotta the newer artists dont exactly have a strong enough label behind them, to put real money behind their projects. so alot (like myself) say fuck it, and have to do it on their own. and itz a trip on how many no-named producers i meet, who are very talented, but wanna charge all types of prices, cause they're hella big headed from niggaz tellin them their shit is so damn raw. and i aint talkin bout the producers who've done alotta previous work, i'm speakin on the ones who are on the same god damn level as i am, just a young starving artist out here.
but evetually everyone will realize, and correct their mistakes. and as for KMEL not playin any of our shit, i really never expected that to happen, until we have all stepped up. both young & old acts.

also i see nuthin wrong wit promotin & hypin ya self up, keep doin ya thizzle Young Moe. hit me up bout that album

and look out for my shit is the future, Young-G & Mobbed Out.
 
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aint nobody really made it in this shit yet we all in the same boat cuz were from the bay its just some people are a little further ahead of others but aint nobody made it yet if they did than we wouldnt be thanking on our kneez everynight that the radio gives us 2 hours of bay spins and we wouldnt be begging for more sales and promotion people are doin well independently but no one can go get 2 million out the bank and blow it and not trip peace
 

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man, put yourselves in what ever boat you think you belong in...
i know what i know, and i see what i see on here and in the rap game.. cause i choose to speak my peice i get questioned...

well i aint gonna bite my tongue.. so if i feel your weak as fuck and i say it, it dont mean you have to jump off a bridge it just means I feel you are weak as fuck.... sydal mind your own unless you want me to critique your shit next.. actin like what you say goes round these parts.. lmao.. its the net IT MEANS NOTHING!!!!!!

if i feel like saying vanilla ice is gonna make a come back then god damnit vanilla ice is gonna make a come back to ME.. none of you sway my opinon.. and maybe im the only one on here to have the nutz to say "hey your wack give it up"

and for you dont knows who dont know me that dont bother me 1 bit, and im not gonna post a resume on here... the cats that know me know i shut down the first siccness bbq battling the ones who swore they were the shit then, and i wont go into details of the e 40 tour stops ive preformed at out of state, or the tour i did down south with spm, grimm and dope house at there peak... and i wont mention the 70+ records im on in the stores, or the record deal i have now that has me signed and tied in with keak the sneek messy marv and das efx... and i refuse to say anything about being one of maybe 10-12 (and chuck can vouch) labels to ever see bread from bayside.. i wont say how i helped put on certain underground cats from this site on, i wont say how i helped goldtoes make moves for black n brown while he was in texas, i cant say shit about being played on the radio in 20 different states and doing shows from texas back to cali and everywhere inbetween....fuck it i dont have to prove shit to yall,
i bet your next comment will be "so dutch you think your better than us now"cause no i dont feel that.. i got a long way to go to get where id like to be.but the bottom line is this...

YOU GUYS ARE STILL BATTLING EACH OTHER ON THE NET FOR NOTHING... AND YOU QUESTION ME??? SHIT LIKE I SAID BEFORE I AM NO WHERE NEAR QUINN STATUS NOR DO I CLAIM TO BE BUT I PUT IN WORK ALSO.. SO DONT COME AT ME LIKE IM A NET RAPPER OR MY OPININs ARE BULL SHIT CAUSE TO ME THEY AINT...

NOW ANY OF YOU NET RAPPERS FEEL FROGGY, JUST JUMP THEN... DUMP YOUR LIGHT WEIGHT RESUME ON ME . TALK THAT SHIT NOW.


AND IM DONE RANTING.. JUST FELT LIKE LIVENING THINGS UP AROUND HERE.....LMAO YOU GUYS KILL ME
 

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if i feel like saying vanilla ice is gonna make a come back then god damnit vanilla ice is gonna make a come back to ME
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hey i might agree with the comeback! I saw the dude at Summer Splash in Manteca like a year or two ago! but then again... people were throwin water bottles at him... itz a cold biz for sure.
 
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Dutch, point taken. Like I said, I meant no disrespect. HOWEVER, if every time I say something, you feel the need to critique my shit, by all means do so. You have access to songs that were recorded when I was 19 years old, still young, still dumb, and not polished. I'm STILL not polished, the day I stop getting better is the day my career is over, that's just how it works!! If you really want to go there with the critique and put it on the net, it's all good...I'll sit back and laugh my ass off, cause cats on here are YES MEN for certain people, and NO MEN for everybody else...this site has 1 track...and like I've said many times, I give a fuck what people on an internet board think of me or my music. I get what I need critique-wise from people who HATE rap music...so if they say they'd bump it, I must be hittin' something that's marketable. I'll be the first one to say, the album I put out is coo, but it's nothing near GREAT!! But I know what we're doing now is on a different level, and I'm proud of that shit!!

With me knowing that, and admitting it with no shame...critique what you've heard. It will have absolutely no relevence, and will not affect me or what I'm working on NOW!!

Respectfully,
Sydal
 
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@ Dutch FE

thats quite a resume yall should take pointers from cats like this hes showin the hustle and struggle that everyones gonna face with this music shit and he admits theirs still work and fine tunning that needs to be done you got to respect him for that peace!!!!
 
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HOW U GONNA SAY IF A RADIO STATION PLAYED BAY SHIT ALL DAY THEY WOULD FLOP? IT DONT MATTER HOW MUCH THEM NIGGAZ ON THE EAST COAST SELL MORE THEN US . THATS JUST A PRIME EXAMPLE THAT WE NEED TO GET MORE RADIO PLAY TO GET RECOGNIZED CUZ WE AINT GETTIN NO LUV ANYWAY.
 
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DUTCH-F.E said:
sydal its all good man... i was being a smart ass.. lol

good luck to you and your crew...
Coo shit Dutch, thanks pimp. Good luck to you and yours as well.

707, CHILL MAN!! LOL!! I didn't make BAD songs when I first started, they just, in my own opinion, were not up to par, I didn't use my brain like I do now...that's how it works for most though....AND, Dutch is a cool cat, and gets much respect from me just because he doesn't hold back, I'm the same way. We have the nuts to tell people like it is, and we have the nuts to challenge people's opinions. I'll challenge his and he'll challenge mine, all day...but at the end of that day, got to give respect where it's due...and respect is due to real cats who don't hold back!!

Thanks for the support though 707, I appreciate it!!
 
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Dutch,

Who to you are "Net Rappers" in here? I am curious to see who they are.

I aint gonna post a res but i have done half of what you posted but I dont rap. I know where your coming from, well kinda. ive worked in more than just Rap Music so its a ruff world but if you aint gonna help folks then why judge them if it dont bother you?if you want to be a critic then tell them what is bad about it. maybe some one else gave them bad advice. Let them know.


All I see is Big Ego's jumpin around here. That is the Problem that needs to change in the Bay. Have confidence in your music but dont degrade others. I think i can count on one hand the Folks on this site that should have the Ego's some of ya'll have but they dont degrade or downplay other rappers at all. I think the best Example would be Seant T. I mentioned him twice Cause this is got to be one of the Hardest working Down to earth cats around and Is always willing to Help Folks. He is what we should be. The Cat has been around, Worked with Legends and Is still doin it.






PS Cop that Terrain Boss.
 
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Gizmo said:
All I see is Big Ego's jumpin around here. That is the Problem that needs to change in the Bay. Have confidence in your music but dont degrade others.
I was talkin to dutch about this same thing. People tell me I'm good, and that I need to drop a cd quite often, but I don't let it go to my head, and when i write, it's never good enough for me, but even if i do write somethin dope, I don't dog someone else out, unless they disrespect me. I read this the other night, and it totally stood out at me, it coincidentally was the same night i was talkin to dutch about this subject.....
"For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted" Jesus said this, in the book of Luke 14:11
 
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Wow...a lot of good feedback from everyone. It seems that we all have this common dilemma, how can we improve? Chuck really is trying to help us all out, thats the truth of the matter. What we need to do is understand that CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM is good. Dont take anything the wrong way, its just someone else's opinion. Whether or not you register it as positive or negative reflects the kind of person you are. Me, shit I get told how I can improve all the time. I am young in this game, and I want to learn as much as I can. So i LISTEN....most of the time, not saying anything back unless I need more reasoning on why things i did were wrong, and what someone would suggest I do the next time. If we all can help each other out by offering suggestions to an open mind I am all for it. If I walked around being an ignorant mutherfucker I may as well call it a day...I know there is so much more out there for me to learn....humbling yourself sometimes puts things right where they should be...
 
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This post is crazy over 2000 views, and for what cause somebody spoke the truth. Done Deal CEO is right and I luuuuuuv Bay music born and raised on it. But its the truth and sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.

and why did you get Dutch started this post will never end...lol