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damn I was just reading this thread earlier today......& just received this email a few minutes ago.....


Orange County faces budget squeeze
Layoffs are threatened as agencies are ordered to cut tens of millions of dollars in spending because of a sharp drop in tax revenue.
By Stuart Pfeifer
November 15, 2008
Concerned about a deep decline in tax revenue, Orange County officials are trying to slash tens of millions of dollars in spending, cutbacks that could lead to layoffs and jeopardize public services such as health programs and child abuse prevention.

The move comes at a time when counties throughout Southern California are reeling from a plunge in sales and property tax revenue, and a nagging fear that the financial picture could worsen.



Painful cutbacks in Orange CountyThe squeeze on local government is expected to tighten further next year when the full impact of property tax adjustments hits. As property values have slumped, homeowners have asked for their homes to be reassessed -- a process that will cut the government's property tax revenue.

Belt-tightening has already begun in Riverside and San Bernardino counties, which have both been particularly hard hit by the recession.

Orange County Executive Officer Thomas Mauk has directed all departments -- from the Social Services Agency to the county librarian -- to cut a combined $44 million in spending. He said Friday that layoffs are "a distinct possibility."


"It will be painful. It's very drastic," said Bob Wilson, deputy director of the Orange County Health Care Agency, which provides a host of services, including flu shots for the elderly, healthcare for the poor and inspections of local restaurants.

Despite its above-average per capita income, Orange County has been hard hit by the economic downturn. Median home prices in Orange County plunged 28% in July, unemployment increased to 5.7% and sales tax revenue designated for law enforcement is down 3% from 2007, Mauk said in a memorandum calling for the cutbacks.

"We have to do it because the revenues are going to be down not only this year but more dramatically next year," said county Supervisor Bill Campbell, who helps oversee the county's $6.6-billion budget. "I'm thinking it may not even be a big enough cut."

Mauk has advised all agencies to stop hiring and to report to him by Friday about how they intend to cut spending.

Agency heads said they hope to reduce spending through attrition and by cutting overtime, travel and equipment purchases.

"This is as severe as I've ever seen it," Mauk said. "I'm sure we'll close clinics, youth camps and social services. I think there's no question that layoffs are a distinct possibility. We're at least, without layoffs, going to eliminate several hundred positions."

Nick Berardino, general manager of the Orange County Employees Assn., which represents more than 13,000 workers, said he and his staff are concerned about the possibility of layoffs.

He said he has asked Mauk to consider eliminating the jobs of highly paid senior managers before targeting rank-and-file workers. "Before they even begin to think about cutting services and employees, they need to chop at the top," Berardino said. "There's plenty of money in that area."

Orange County is hardly alone in its fiscal crisis. Riverside and San Bernardino counties, which have some of the highest foreclosure rates in the nation, are in dire financial straits thanks largely to a huge reduction in property tax revenue. In Los Angeles County, hiring for nonessential jobs has been frozen and further cuts are expected if the economy doesn't rebound, officials said.

In the Inland Empire, foreclosures have exploded 3,500% since 2005, dragging down the local economy.

"For the first time in 10 years, we are looking at negative growth in property taxes," said San Bernardino County spokesman David Wert. "Property taxes are the single biggest source of revenue for the county, but if people aren't living in their homes because of foreclosures then they aren't paying property taxes."

Last month, Riverside County Executive Officer Bill Luna called for a 25% spending cut over the next four years for all county programs. In February, 40 members of the county's Building and Safety Department were laid off, including building inspectors, engineers and supervisors.

San Bernardino County officials have imposed a hiring freeze -- except for extraordinary circumstances. The county's chief financial officer must approve all hires.

Orange County's Social Services Agency, which has 160 vacant positions, has been asked to trim $2.5 million from its budget at a time that its services are of particular need, said Michael Riley, the agency's chief deputy director. "The programs that tend to be in the greatest danger are the programs that provide preventative or early intervention services," to prevent child abuse and domestic violence, he said.

And the programs that appear to be safe are those that are largely funded by the state and federal government, such as welfare and food stamp programs, Riley said.

The hiring freeze has affected the agency's ability to meet the public's needs, he said. "Every time a social worker leaves, we cannot hire behind him or her. You can just imagine what that does, putting pressure on us," Riley said. "We're doing everything we can to make sure we can still meet the demand, but I have to tell you it's going to be very difficult to do that."

Among the programs in jeopardy are family resource centers, through which social workers identify and assist troubled families to prevent child abuse and domestic violence before it starts, Riley said. "It's a significant help to us keeping families together and out of our system," he said. "Those programs come under pressure because they're not mandates" from the state or federal government.

Wilson said the Health Care Agency has not yet decided how to achieve Mauk's requested cutbacks, but medical care for the indigent does not appear in jeopardy because of state and federal funding.

Orange County has no public hospital. Instead, the county reimburses private hospitals that treat the poor. The future of community healthcare clinics is less certain. "We have a couple of clinics and provide funding for a number of community clinics," Wilson said. "They could be impacted."

Pfeifer is a Times staff writer

[email protected]

Times staff writers David Kelly and Garret Therolf contributed to this report
 
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the Boeing strike really fucked us over. luckly I wasn't hit too bad but my OT was cut waaaay down and now I'm starting to fall behind on a few bills. bunch of fuckin bullshit...
 
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when i was doing loans..i was cool..once the market hit the bottom of the toilet...i went back to my old trade, which is construction....it was cool when i got back into it...now we only doing 1-2 jobs a month and i do side jobs here and there..but nothing major....

only thing that saved me was my side hustle and was able to save up some cool money to pay off my bills and support my seed....but my connect got trapped in AZ and now I'm stuck with only the job...
 
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I got my hours cut, but I'm still greatful for even having a job because I know a lot don't have any right now. Business is pretty fucking slow. Luckily we're protected by a union though.


I dunno man, if this shit keeps up and I can't find a better job, Las Vegas might be in my future since there's so much shit on the strip and it's a growing city in general. A lot more people are gambling in these rough times, believe it or not.

I think for the average person, people are just going to have to work more than one job to make ends meet.


San Diego is getting really hard to hang with.
 
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thats nothing new
I would say the average person above 35 years old have one job. Mostly everyone in my family (parents, aunts and uncles, some cousins, all have one steady job). I'm talking about a typical 9-5 job, retirement 401k, benefits and all. A lot of my uncles, including my dad work for the city, some releitives work for the county, one for the Feds. Their all 40+, except one of my cousins who's 27, she has a county social worker job. I don't know if it's society today or the standards to find 1 "good" solid job are getting harder to meet, but it seems like everyone these days (atleast the younger generation 20's-30's) are going to college and working crappy little part-time jobs or not going to school and working two or three crappy jobs. I just want to figure out is it really us as a younger generation putting ourselves in position to not really succeed or are employers making it tougher to hire us because of all the college competition? Were our parents generation more ambitious to find better jobs or is it just society today that's making it difficult for us youngsters? Shit my mom got a $20 an hour job str8 out of highschool back n the days as a 411 operator for PacBell, no college, no experience, nothing, just HS diploma. I don't think that's quite possible today. I'm 22 and mostly everyone I know that's my age, ain't making great money. Only one of my homies is set because of his parents real estate $hit, he pretty much has it made due to inheritance.

I don't know, I don't think the future looks too bright. A lot of people's mentalities today think their too good to work certain jobs. With college becoming the norm, mentalities will get even worse and kids will start becoming independent adults at later ages, while at the same time think their the shit because they have college. I just got my AS and feel I ain't any better than a person with HS diploma. I'll sweat if I have to and I am right now.
 
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I would say the average person above 35 years old have one job. Mostly everyone in my family (parents, aunts and uncles, some cousins, all have one steady job). I'm talking about a typical 9-5 job, retirement 401k, benefits and all. A lot of my uncles, including my dad work for the city, some releitives work for the county, one for the Feds. Their all 40+, except one of my cousins who's 27, she has a county social worker job. I don't know if it's society today or the standards to find 1 "good" solid job are getting harder to meet, but it seems like everyone these days (atleast the younger generation 20's-30's) are going to college and working crappy little part-time jobs or not going to school and working two or three crappy jobs. I just want to figure out is it really us as a younger generation putting ourselves in position to not really succeed or are employers making it tougher to hire us because of all the college competition? Were our parents generation more ambitious to find better jobs or is it just society today that's making it difficult for us youngsters? Shit my mom got a $20 an hour job str8 out of highschool back n the days as a 411 operator for PacBell, no college, no experience, nothing, just HS diploma. I don't think that's quite possible today. I'm 22 and mostly everyone I know that's my age, ain't making great money. Only one of my homies is set because of his parents real estate $hit, he pretty much has it made due to inheritance.

I don't know, I don't think the future looks too bright. A lot of people's mentalities today think their too good to work certain jobs. With college becoming the norm, mentalities will get even worse and kids will start becoming independent adults at later ages, while at the same time think their the shit because they have college. I just got my AS and feel I ain't any better than a person with HS diploma. I'll sweat if I have to and I am right now.
good post...i know people wit all kinds of good college shit on they resume and the people who just went to high school are doin better than em (and dont have 30,000 in student loans)....those college brainiacs think they the shit too, we had one come in for basically confirming prescriptions over the phone and net and he said he wouldnt except anything below 27 a hour, while he was waitin it got around and boss lady came out and said word is your lookin for 27 a hour?...lets not waste anyone's time anymore, the job is 11.50 40 hours a week.....he got his little briefcase and stomped out like a little bitch...........funny fact he was wearing shoes wit velcro on em
 
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good post...i know people wit all kinds of good college shit on they resume and the people who just went to high school are doin better than em (and dont have 30,000 in student loans)....those college brainiacs think they the shit too, we had one come in for basically confirming prescriptions over the phone and net and he said he wouldnt except anything below 27 a hour, while he was waitin it got around and boss lady came out and said word is your lookin for 27 a hour?...lets not waste anyone's time anymore, the job is 11.50 40 hours a week.....he got his little briefcase and stomped out like a little bitch...........funny fact he was wearing shoes wit velcro on em
wow, that's the spoiled fucking prick mentality I'm talking about. I ain't got nothing against College, but it's so fucking mainstream now. A lot of people don't take it seriously enough, but still try to get away with the "Yeah, I'm going to a University, so I'm the shit type of mentality." Little do you know, they just failed two classes last semester and only taking two this semester. But yet, their still going to "college" so their the obviously the shit and wanting to succeed in life. I see it as a scapegoat for many people, they don't want to face life yet, so they want to waste some time at college for the meanwhile. But of course, no one critizes them because their obviously, going to "college."

One of my cousin's is kind of falling into that same category. I mean he doesn't think he's the shit, but he could have simply gone to a CHEAPER costing community college with the transfer program, but NO, his parents are the type with that "oh, my son is going to a university" type of mentality. But my aunt at the same time is struggling to send his ass there. Sure it works in his favor when he spits game to girls, "yeah I'm going to State," but at the same time, at what cost, his mom's expense. My aunt is stupid as well for going along with the competive nature of society, she obviously wants to talk big about her son among the rest of the family and co-workers. Fuck that shit, some greedy ass, fake ass way of thinking IMO.

In today's society, saying you go to "college" is good enough as saying you have a good job. So for many young people, it's a substitute for the lack of the good job. Like I said, for many it's a temporary scapegoat. The older you get however, you can't really use that line, though A LOT of youngsters are taking advantage of their youth.
 
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I would say the average person above 35 years old have one job. Mostly everyone in my family (parents, aunts and uncles, some cousins, all have one steady job). I'm talking about a typical 9-5 job, retirement 401k, benefits and all. A lot of my uncles, including my dad work for the city, some releitives work for the county, one for the Feds. Their all 40+, except one of my cousins who's 27, she has a county social worker job. I don't know if it's society today or the standards to find 1 "good" solid job are getting harder to meet, but it seems like everyone these days (atleast the younger generation 20's-30's) are going to college and working crappy little part-time jobs or not going to school and working two or three crappy jobs. I just want to figure out is it really us as a younger generation putting ourselves in position to not really succeed or are employers making it tougher to hire us because of all the college competition? Were our parents generation more ambitious to find better jobs or is it just society today that's making it difficult for us youngsters? Shit my mom got a $20 an hour job str8 out of highschool back n the days as a 411 operator for PacBell, no college, no experience, nothing, just HS diploma. I don't think that's quite possible today. I'm 22 and mostly everyone I know that's my age, ain't making great money. Only one of my homies is set because of his parents real estate $hit, he pretty much has it made due to inheritance.

A few simple things:

1- Increased workforce in the US
2- Global outsourcing of jobs away from US
3- Technology decreasing human input in systems
4- Emphasis on growing businesses has siphoned money away from the workforce and towards growth
5- Increase in undocumented workers is anchoring pay (which is why many large corporations suppport amensty, illegal workers, etc)
6- Easy access to credit has inflated currency
7- Newer generation is more conditioned to expect an unsustainable standard of living
 
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I would say the average person above 35 years old have one job. Mostly everyone in my family (parents, aunts and uncles, some cousins, all have one steady job). I'm talking about a typical 9-5 job, retirement 401k, benefits and all. A lot of my uncles, including my dad work for the city, some releitives work for the county, one for the Feds. Their all 40+, except one of my cousins who's 27, she has a county social worker job. I don't know if it's society today or the standards to find 1 "good" solid job are getting harder to meet, but it seems like everyone these days (atleast the younger generation 20's-30's) are going to college and working crappy little part-time jobs or not going to school and working two or three crappy jobs. I just want to figure out is it really us as a younger generation putting ourselves in position to not really succeed or are employers making it tougher to hire us because of all the college competition? Were our parents generation more ambitious to find better jobs or is it just society today that's making it difficult for us youngsters? Shit my mom got a $20 an hour job str8 out of highschool back n the days as a 411 operator for PacBell, no college, no experience, nothing, just HS diploma. I don't think that's quite possible today. I'm 22 and mostly everyone I know that's my age, ain't making great money. Only one of my homies is set because of his parents real estate $hit, he pretty much has it made due to inheritance.

I don't know, I don't think the future looks too bright. A lot of people's mentalities today think their too good to work certain jobs. With college becoming the norm, mentalities will get even worse and kids will start becoming independent adults at later ages, while at the same time think their the shit because they have college. I just got my AS and feel I ain't any better than a person with HS diploma. I'll sweat if I have to and I am right now.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID EARLIER. It looks like alot of people wont have 1 Job to make ends meat, but possibly 2-3 jobs and hella hours worked just to get by. Finding a full time job that has all the bases covered (benefits, job stability, great pay, good hours) are just not abundant, but out there. Most Entry level jobs dont pay that great if you were living on your own + utilities and any additional expenses.


good post...i know people wit all kinds of good college shit on they resume and the people who just went to high school are doin better than em (and dont have 30,000 in student loans)....those college brainiacs think they the shit too, we had one come in for basically confirming prescriptions over the phone and net and he said he wouldnt except anything below 27 a hour, while he was waitin it got around and boss lady came out and said word is your lookin for 27 a hour?...lets not waste anyone's time anymore, the job is 11.50 40 hours a week.....he got his little briefcase and stomped out like a little bitch...........funny fact he was wearing shoes wit velcro on em
If the job is only $11 and someone is demanding $27.. That is just stupid... I hate those idiots that think they are worth more than the job. Some people can make it work, especially if its a skill that takes additional education and they have experiences. I dont know about people asking double a base wage, but I've seen people demand a couple dollars extra from their employers to keep them.

Someone that is just fresh outta high school or another industry cant get a job doing a computer analysis Level 3 job without experience or education. Some of those people can demand more because their might not be enough people to qualify for it.

The jobs that I know that pay pretty good, you need additional edicuation and degrees to have. But dont get me wrong, there are companies that do OJT and build their employees.
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wow, that's the spoiled fucking prick mentality I'm talking about. I ain't got nothing against College, but it's so fucking mainstream now. A lot of people don't take it seriously enough, but still try to get away with the "Yeah, I'm going to a University, so I'm the shit type of mentality." Little do you know, they just failed two classes last semester and only taking two this semester. But yet, their still going to "college" so their the obviously the shit and wanting to succeed in life. I see it as a scapegoat for many people, they don't want to face life yet, so they want to waste some time at college for the meanwhile. But of course, no one critizes them because their obviously, going to "college."

One of my cousin's is kind of falling into that same category. I mean he doesn't think he's the shit, but he could have simply gone to a CHEAPER costing community college with the transfer program, but NO, his parents are the type with that "oh, my son is going to a university" type of mentality. But my aunt at the same time is struggling to send his ass there. Sure it works in his favor when he spits game to girls, "yeah I'm going to State," but at the same time, at what cost, his mom's expense. My aunt is stupid as well for going along with the competive nature of society, she obviously wants to talk big about her son among the rest of the family and co-workers. Fuck that shit, some greedy ass, fake ass way of thinking IMO.

In today's society, saying you go to "college" is good enough as saying you have a good job. So for many young people, it's a substitute for the lack of the good job. Like I said, for many it's a temporary scapegoat. The older you get however, you can't really use that line, though A LOT of youngsters are taking advantage of their youth.
i agree with you 100%. it is a fact that current university students are not reading half as much as college students did 10 years ago. College students nowadays are lazier and don't cover as much of their reading material as they should. i feel sorry for whoever hires a lazy ass with a 2.2 GPA and a college degree just because there is no better candidate available.. well..at least not with a college degree. It is somewhat true that employers would rather go through with hiring an employee with a college degree, rather than one without it.
 
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THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID EARLIER. It looks like alot of people wont have 1 Job to make ends meat, but possibly 2-3 jobs and hella hours worked just to get by. Finding a full time job that has all the bases covered (benefits, job stability, great pay, good hours) are just not abundant, but out there. Most Entry level jobs dont pay that great if you were living on your own + utilities and any additional expenses.




If the job is only $11 and someone is demanding $27.. That is just stupid... I hate those idiots that think they are worth more than the job. Some people can make it work, especially if its a skill that takes additional education and they have experiences. I dont know about people asking double a base wage, but I've seen people demand a couple dollars extra from their employers to keep them.

Someone that is just fresh outta high school or another industry cant get a job doing a computer analysis Level 3 job without experience or education. Some of those people can demand more because their might not be enough people to qualify for it.

The jobs that I know that pay pretty good, you need additional edicuation and degrees to have. But dont get me wrong, there are companies that do OJT and build their employees.
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i think he was from southern cali and said thats waht he was gettin down there.....you have to be taught the shit, or go to optometry school and he didnt do either, if i was him i would be grateful for anything thats full time, not min wage and not fast food
 

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damn I was just reading this thread earlier today......& just received this email a few minutes ago.....


Orange County faces budget squeeze
Layoffs are threatened as agencies are ordered to cut tens of millions of dollars in spending because of a sharp drop in tax revenue.
By Stuart Pfeifer
November 15, 2008
Concerned about a deep decline in tax revenue, Orange County officials are trying to slash tens of millions of dollars in spending, cutbacks that could lead to layoffs and jeopardize public services such as health programs and child abuse prevention.

The move comes at a time when counties throughout Southern California are reeling from a plunge in sales and property tax revenue, and a nagging fear that the financial picture could worsen.



Painful cutbacks in Orange CountyThe squeeze on local government is expected to tighten further next year when the full impact of property tax adjustments hits. As property values have slumped, homeowners have asked for their homes to be reassessed -- a process that will cut the government's property tax revenue.

Belt-tightening has already begun in Riverside and San Bernardino counties, which have both been particularly hard hit by the recession.

Orange County Executive Officer Thomas Mauk has directed all departments -- from the Social Services Agency to the county librarian -- to cut a combined $44 million in spending. He said Friday that layoffs are "a distinct possibility."


"It will be painful. It's very drastic," said Bob Wilson, deputy director of the Orange County Health Care Agency, which provides a host of services, including flu shots for the elderly, healthcare for the poor and inspections of local restaurants.

Despite its above-average per capita income, Orange County has been hard hit by the economic downturn. Median home prices in Orange County plunged 28% in July, unemployment increased to 5.7% and sales tax revenue designated for law enforcement is down 3% from 2007, Mauk said in a memorandum calling for the cutbacks.

"We have to do it because the revenues are going to be down not only this year but more dramatically next year," said county Supervisor Bill Campbell, who helps oversee the county's $6.6-billion budget. "I'm thinking it may not even be a big enough cut."

Mauk has advised all agencies to stop hiring and to report to him by Friday about how they intend to cut spending.

Agency heads said they hope to reduce spending through attrition and by cutting overtime, travel and equipment purchases.

"This is as severe as I've ever seen it," Mauk said. "I'm sure we'll close clinics, youth camps and social services. I think there's no question that layoffs are a distinct possibility. We're at least, without layoffs, going to eliminate several hundred positions."

Nick Berardino, general manager of the Orange County Employees Assn., which represents more than 13,000 workers, said he and his staff are concerned about the possibility of layoffs.

He said he has asked Mauk to consider eliminating the jobs of highly paid senior managers before targeting rank-and-file workers. "Before they even begin to think about cutting services and employees, they need to chop at the top," Berardino said. "There's plenty of money in that area."

Orange County is hardly alone in its fiscal crisis. Riverside and San Bernardino counties, which have some of the highest foreclosure rates in the nation, are in dire financial straits thanks largely to a huge reduction in property tax revenue. In Los Angeles County, hiring for nonessential jobs has been frozen and further cuts are expected if the economy doesn't rebound, officials said.

In the Inland Empire, foreclosures have exploded 3,500% since 2005, dragging down the local economy.

"For the first time in 10 years, we are looking at negative growth in property taxes," said San Bernardino County spokesman David Wert. "Property taxes are the single biggest source of revenue for the county, but if people aren't living in their homes because of foreclosures then they aren't paying property taxes."

Last month, Riverside County Executive Officer Bill Luna called for a 25% spending cut over the next four years for all county programs. In February, 40 members of the county's Building and Safety Department were laid off, including building inspectors, engineers and supervisors.

San Bernardino County officials have imposed a hiring freeze -- except for extraordinary circumstances. The county's chief financial officer must approve all hires.

Orange County's Social Services Agency, which has 160 vacant positions, has been asked to trim $2.5 million from its budget at a time that its services are of particular need, said Michael Riley, the agency's chief deputy director. "The programs that tend to be in the greatest danger are the programs that provide preventative or early intervention services," to prevent child abuse and domestic violence, he said.

And the programs that appear to be safe are those that are largely funded by the state and federal government, such as welfare and food stamp programs, Riley said.

The hiring freeze has affected the agency's ability to meet the public's needs, he said. "Every time a social worker leaves, we cannot hire behind him or her. You can just imagine what that does, putting pressure on us," Riley said. "We're doing everything we can to make sure we can still meet the demand, but I have to tell you it's going to be very difficult to do that."

Among the programs in jeopardy are family resource centers, through which social workers identify and assist troubled families to prevent child abuse and domestic violence before it starts, Riley said. "It's a significant help to us keeping families together and out of our system," he said. "Those programs come under pressure because they're not mandates" from the state or federal government.

Wilson said the Health Care Agency has not yet decided how to achieve Mauk's requested cutbacks, but medical care for the indigent does not appear in jeopardy because of state and federal funding.

Orange County has no public hospital. Instead, the county reimburses private hospitals that treat the poor. The future of community healthcare clinics is less certain. "We have a couple of clinics and provide funding for a number of community clinics," Wilson said. "They could be impacted."

Pfeifer is a Times staff writer

[email protected]

Times staff writers David Kelly and Garret Therolf contributed to this report
I would say the average person above 35 years old have one job. Mostly everyone in my family (parents, aunts and uncles, some cousins, all have one steady job). I'm talking about a typical 9-5 job, retirement 401k, benefits and all. A lot of my uncles, including my dad work for the city, some releitives work for the county, one for the Feds. Their all 40+, except one of my cousins who's 27, she has a county social worker job. I don't know if it's society today or the standards to find 1 "good" solid job are getting harder to meet, but it seems like everyone these days (atleast the younger generation 20's-30's) are going to college and working crappy little part-time jobs or not going to school and working two or three crappy jobs. I just want to figure out is it really us as a younger generation putting ourselves in position to not really succeed or are employers making it tougher to hire us because of all the college competition? Were our parents generation more ambitious to find better jobs or is it just society today that's making it difficult for us youngsters? Shit my mom got a $20 an hour job str8 out of highschool back n the days as a 411 operator for PacBell, no college, no experience, nothing, just HS diploma. I don't think that's quite possible today. I'm 22 and mostly everyone I know that's my age, ain't making great money. Only one of my homies is set because of his parents real estate $hit, he pretty much has it made due to inheritance.

I don't know, I don't think the future looks too bright. A lot of people's mentalities today think their too good to work certain jobs. With college becoming the norm, mentalities will get even worse and kids will start becoming independent adults at later ages, while at the same time think their the shit because they have college. I just got my AS and feel I ain't any better than a person with HS diploma. I'll sweat if I have to and I am right now.
wow, that's the spoiled fucking prick mentality I'm talking about. I ain't got nothing against College, but it's so fucking mainstream now. A lot of people don't take it seriously enough, but still try to get away with the "Yeah, I'm going to a University, so I'm the shit type of mentality." Little do you know, they just failed two classes last semester and only taking two this semester. But yet, their still going to "college" so their the obviously the shit and wanting to succeed in life. I see it as a scapegoat for many people, they don't want to face life yet, so they want to waste some time at college for the meanwhile. But of course, no one critizes them because their obviously, going to "college."

One of my cousin's is kind of falling into that same category. I mean he doesn't think he's the shit, but he could have simply gone to a CHEAPER costing community college with the transfer program, but NO, his parents are the type with that "oh, my son is going to a university" type of mentality. But my aunt at the same time is struggling to send his ass there. Sure it works in his favor when he spits game to girls, "yeah I'm going to State," but at the same time, at what cost, his mom's expense. My aunt is stupid as well for going along with the competive nature of society, she obviously wants to talk big about her son among the rest of the family and co-workers. Fuck that shit, some greedy ass, fake ass way of thinking IMO.

In today's society, saying you go to "college" is good enough as saying you have a good job. So for many young people, it's a substitute for the lack of the good job. Like I said, for many it's a temporary scapegoat. The older you get however, you can't really use that line, though A LOT of youngsters are taking advantage of their youth.
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i think he was from southern cali and said thats waht he was gettin down there.....you have to be taught the shit, or go to optometry school and he didnt do either, if i was him i would be grateful for anything thats full time, not min wage and not fast food
yup take what you can get, but some idiots demand too much.. that's fine.. people like that lose opportunities in life. And leave an opening for someone that straight up deserves it. When I was younger, I took what I can get.. doing grave yard shift jobs, working 2 jobs, busting ass doing manual labor and shit.

I'm just glad when I moved to the Bay area, I was able to get a job at the medical center after a few classes and have a good job. Kuz my part job (my first job that I depended on and full time), went down a bit (airlines took a shit earlier in the year) and I probably wouldnt be living good right now if I depended solely on that job. My co workers @ the medical center always wonder why I put alot of effort in my job and show up when ever someone calls in sick. I always tell them that I'm blessed to have a good paying AND STEADY job... I struggled and grinded like a lot of people out there to get a decent life (I never sold drugs on the side) and when I got my currernt job... I was just Happy... it was really a life changing job and changed my uncertainty as to what job to have to live off of.

Even though I'm doing good, I still keep the mentality of keep moving forward. Especially how things are now.
 
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MY JOB IS SAFE.BUT I DONT LIKE MY JOB.IM NOT STUPID IM NOT GUNNA WALK OFF THE JOB BEFORE I GET ANOTHER ONE.GOT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BRINGING MONEY IN ASWELL.THE MUSIC IS SELLING GOOD ALSO.I DID NOTICE ONE THING THOUGH GAS PRICES WERE STARTING TO AFFECT THE BUGET.IF YOU KNOW ME IM ALWAYS ROLLING SOMEWHERE THE VALLEY,SAC,CENTRAL VALLEY,RENO,VEGAS.I NOW RELIZE HOW MUCH I WAS BLOWING ON GAS.WHAT THE FUCK WAS I THINKING LOL....