girls overdoses on...LSD?

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May 15, 2002
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i never heard of an lsd overdose before. she must have had other drugs in her system or something. has anyone ever seen or heard of something like this?

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2004/10/17/local/doc41720c792b448226810706.txt

Teen faces charges in LSD death
From staff and wire reports

COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho — A former Lincoln teen could face manslaughter charges Monday after providing a dozen hits of LSD to a woman who later died of an apparent overdose.



Cameron James Jester, 18, already has been charged with felony distribution of LSD and misdemeanor possession of psilocybin mushrooms, according to The Associated Press.

Gloria Discerni, 18, of Cottage Grove, Ore., died Friday after an apparent LSD overdose put her in a coma Tuesday night.

"It's up to the prosecutors what level of manslaughter, voluntary or involuntary," said Coeur d'Alene Police Lt. Don Jiran.

Jester attended Lincoln Southeast High School in 2002. A family member Saturday declined to comment.

According to the Spokane Spokesman-Review, Discerni and Jester, students at North Idaho College, were at a gathering of about four or five people at an apartment near campus, police said.

Records show Jester told investigators he gave the woman about 10 doses of the hallucinogen in a drink and then let her have some of his drink, which also had about the same number of droplet-sized doses. A vial was recovered from Jester when he was arrested.

Police spokeswoman Sgt. Christie Wood said Discerni had willingly drank orange juice spiked with the hallucinogenic drug.

Friends took Discerni to the hospital Tuesday night after she quickly became ill. Jester was arrested at the hospital after admitting he provided the LSD, police said.

Police are awaiting toxicology results to determine if the drug was actually LSD or if Discerni had taken any medications or had any other medical conditions which might have contributed to her death.

Discerni was taken off life support Friday at her family's request and died without regaining consciousness, police told the Spokane Spokesman-Review.

Wood said Jester expressed remorse for Discerni's violent reaction to the drug — she began vomiting and fading in and out of consciousness almost immediately, police have said — and is being held under suicide watch at the Kootenai County Jail on a $100,000 bond.

Like methamphetamine, LSD is made in batches by amateur chemists and its potency can vary widely. Wood and Jiran said they could not guess the potency of the LSD ingested at the party.

"We express sympathy to the family of our 18-year-old victim," Wood said. "We also express our sympathy to the family of Cameron Jester. This is a senseless tragedy."
 

noWetaG

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RedStorm said:
i never heard of an lsd overdose before. she must have had other drugs in her system or something. has anyone ever seen or heard of something like this?
i've heard of it a couple times here & there......
u take enough of anything like that u can overdose.....
that shit fux with the chemicals in ya brain summn vicious......
 
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shit back in the days i was selling sheets here and there and we would take like 13 or more hits at a time i never od but sometimes i get so high that i tought i was never gonna come down.
 
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Well they did say that the shit is made by AMATEUR CHEMISTS...which means the redneck in the trailer...and potency can RANGE WIDELY...so who knows what this "chemist" put in that shit...
 

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Yeah I used to drop acid all the time back when I was like 16-19 than I stopped because I didn't like the effects anymore. I have heard of people wigging out and killing themselves and shit. I have also seen first hand a kid from my school do WAY too much acid and lose his mind and never come back. It is sad because he is on a permenant trip ain't nothing bringing him back. But I have never heard,saw,read anything (Well until now) of anyone ODing on acid. Maybe it was Special K they were taking and didn't know it. It comes in liquid form and has slight hallucinogenic feeling and visuals. And I know that 10 good size drops of Special K could possiabbly kill someone for sure.

I don't know though if she did OD on the acid thats the first i have heard of anything like that.

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Jun 27, 2002
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DAMN 12 HITS OF ACID THAT WOUOLD FUCKIN BLOWE MY MIND...IF IT DIDNT KILL ME I'D END UP GETTING MYSELF KILLED OR LIVING THINKING I WAS ALREADY DEAD...

MAN IF SHE LIVED SHE'D BE TRIPPIN FOREVER....WHY WOULD YOU GIVE ANYONE 10 HITS OF ACID AT ONCE...AND THEN GIVE THEM MORE....?

WOW

AND LIQUID ACID CAN RANGE IN POTENCY, AND ITS HARD TO MEASURE SOMETIMES....I REMEMBER A HOMEGIRL HAD IT AND SHE WOULDNT GIVE IT TO FRIENDS EVEN THOUGH WE ALL WANTED TO TRY IT...SHE WAS LIKE "TRUST ME...NO YOU DONT"
SHIT WAS SUPPOSED TO REALLY FUCK YOU UP

I'VE DONT SHROOMS AND ACID BEFORE...SHROOMS ARE A LOT TAMER...ACID JUST HAD ME GEEEEEEKIN THE FUCK OUT...NEVER TOUCHED IT AGAIN, DID IT LIKE 5 TIMES OR SO
 
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Goodfella said:
i've known people who have taken 20 hits+ in a night
suspect#1 said:
shit back in the days i was selling sheets here and there and we would take like 13 or more hits at a time i never od but sometimes i get so high that i tought i was never gonna come down.
You guys can't possibly be serious. Ive seen some hardcore acid abusers in Humboldt who would take 3 tabs at most and be fucking out of thier minds.
 
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thats real homie we used to dose one day off like 7 hits then the next day wed wanna dose again so wed have to take like 12-13 hits.......ive taking so much acid in my life im surprised im still sane.....lol but i am on a mood stableizer pill now so you never know.......
 

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Damn someone injected them selves with 320,000 ugs? Holy shit. I wouldn't inject anything but if I did LSD wouldn't be the thing I injected lol That dude must have had one crazy trip before he died.. thats like takin 320 hits of acid :dead:

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Goodfella said:
"For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD...Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40,000 ug survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose (Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320,000 ug had been injected intravenously."
i did a paper on acid a few years ago and that's the only case i read of an overdose, that's why i was amazed that the girl in the article might have overdosed from that small an amount
 
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I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE STILL DOIN ACID OR LSD HERE IN THE TOWN, BUT THIS OLD WHITE DUDE FROM WORK TOLD ME THEY USE TO GET LSD IN LIQUID FORM AND USE AN EYEDROPPER AND DROP ACOUPLE DROPS IN ONE EYE AND THEY WOULD BE SET FOR 6-8 HOURS...
 

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CHIVO510 said:
I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE STILL DOIN ACID OR LSD HERE IN THE TOWN, BUT THIS OLD WHITE DUDE FROM WORK TOLD ME THEY USE TO GET LSD IN LIQUID FORM AND USE AN EYEDROPPER AND DROP ACOUPLE DROPS IN ONE EYE AND THEY WOULD BE SET FOR 6-8 HOURS...

I took a eye hit once..that shit burned like a motherfucker. I tripped for like 12hrs too. I don't fuck with acid anymore though.

Nuttkace
 

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You can't die of LSD on this small of a scale.

This story is faulty. Not true... and they need to find out what really went down, or what chemical was REALLY involved. I love how they always blame the safest ones (death-wise).

I have *personally* witnessed a man take a thumbprint of crystal LSD, in which you place your finger on a very newly synthesized pile of 'cid and absorb roughly 6,000 - 7,500 hits.

He still didn't get close to the overdose limit on Acid. He also has a solid job, 3 kids and a wife, and has never showed signs of 'crazyness'.

I've done many, many more than a dozen hits of acid and I'm extremely stable.

It's all about the PERSON... not the DRUG... LSD is by far the *safest* drug when it comes to neurotoxic and lethal symptoms. Even safer than my beloved marijuana - if anyone doesn't believe that I would be happy to post up the statistics of the LD50 limits :)

LSD has killed 2 people from physical overdose in the history of the drug. One was a man who accidentally injected himself with a batch of liquid, mistaking it for heroin. It was over a few grams of liquid LSD and was tens of thousands of dollars worth. He died because his brain shut down from too much disassociation - it wasn't even the physical drug himself that killed him.

The other, I don't remember, but many suspect it was more of a 'tripping out hard Suicide death' than a 'LSD caused death' (although that point can be argued in either direction).


After reading this through quickly twice, I am almost positive it was a different substance, and I would suspect 5-MeO-AMT. Look on erowid if you want more info. This drug was spawned by chemists dealing to people in the Rave scene, and the overdose limit is quite low... 10 hits would easily put a "lightweight" person out. It's been named "Fake Acid" by many in the drug culture.


Just because i always gotta get the true shit around... I do not "stick up" for LSD really... it all depends on the person... but the facts are that you can not die from an overdose of LSD anymore than you can of an overdose from marijuana. The amount is so, so fucking high that any normal user will never even see that much in their lifetimes.