FUCK THE POLICE
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@ Pure life, cops don't have access to your records when they pull you over. They can see if you have a warrant, but in no shape for or fashion can they just look at your record (ON THE SPOT) and decide what action to take. Being of ANY descent with a criminal background is hard these days (less so for white americans.) I'm not saying rights aren't being stripped away from people, but the average person (non-felon excluded) does have rights in this country. Again, if a police officer did EXACTLY what you said and NOTHING else happened he broke the law, but what else was going on? Were you doing anything? Did a crime occur in the area? What else happened? Why were you pulled over?
Read my statement again.
What department is this? Some departments still use OUTDATED computers and some don't even have computers in the cars, so how do they have access to all of your records and what you've been convicted of? You've had MURDER suspects that have been pulled over and cited and officers didn't go fumbling through their car looking for stuff.
Also, why are you avoiding the questions? Here it is you are claiming something happened to you, yet I asked you twice now to tell us what exactly happened, but you keep avoiding it. In your instance I don't believe you. I honestly believe you were doing something that gave them some sort of justification to do whatever it is you claim they might have done. People with negative experiences usually go into detail, but as I mentioned before you're avoiding the issue.
Some do, and some don't.
What department is this? Some departments still use OUTDATED computers and some don't even have computers in the cars, so how do they have access to all of your records and what you've been convicted of? You've had MURDER suspects that have been pulled over and cited and officers didn't go fumbling through their car looking for stuff.
Also, why are you avoiding the questions? Here it is you are claiming something happened to you, yet I asked you twice now to tell us what exactly happened, but you keep avoiding it. In your instance I don't believe you. I honestly believe you were doing something that gave them some sort of justification to do whatever it is you claim they might have done. People with negative experiences usually go into detail, but as I mentioned before you're avoiding the issue.
Some do, and some don't.
One of my CJ teachers is a retired sgt from the concord police department. I'll ask him friday about the computers in the cars and what actually pop up.
Sure you did...you went from working with the concord PD to being a felon overnight.
Homie, we are NOT talking about your convictions. What awe are talking about is a SPECIFIC incident that YOU claimed to have happened. You said the police pulled you over, and all this other stuff happened. THATS what I am asking you to talk about and you've had ample time to do so. Since you haven't done so I now form teh conclusion that you made the entire thing up.
but when a cops pulls you over and they run you in their computer..this is what they will see..
Lets say this type of info pops up on EVERY computer when an officer runs someones name. Can you explain why officers ask if a person is on probation or why it may be required for some on probation to tell an officer they are on probation? Now, tell me if the stuff you just posted is PRE Project 54 or if it is TACNET. Also, you don't have to live in a rural area for your cities department to not have up to date technology. All you need to do is live in a city that is strapped for cash and where a large amount of the budget is going to something besides law enforcement.
Sure you did...you went from working with the concord PD to being a felon overnight.
Homie, we are NOT talking about your convictions. What awe are talking about is a SPECIFIC incident that YOU claimed to have happened. You said the police pulled you over, and all this other stuff happened. THATS what I am asking you to talk about and you've had ample time to do so. Since you haven't done so I now form teh conclusion that you made the entire thing up.
but when a cops pulls you over and they run you in their computer..this is what they will see..
Lets say this type of info pops up on EVERY computer when an officer runs someones name. Can you explain why officers ask if a person is on probation or why it may be required for some on probation to tell an officer they are on probation? Now, tell me if the stuff you just posted is PRE Project 54 or if it is TACNET. Also, you don't have to live in a rural area for your cities department to not have up to date technology. All you need to do is live in a city that is strapped for cash and where a large amount of the budget is going to something besides law enforcement.
it was even featured in university of buffalo's alumni magazine.
http://www.buffalo.edu/UBT/UBT-archives/29_ubtss05/features/features_2.html
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I will.
Wrong again on what? You are making it seem as if all squad cars have teh ability to dig up your info on teh spot because they have computers. I am saying many departments DON'T have this ability because they don't have the funds to pay for the equipment. In addition, these people rely on DISPATCH to relay information to them about the people being detained, so that about sums it up. So you are a convicted felon, yet you were able to work with the city of concord from 99 to 03? Please tell us where you were employed and what your job duties consisted of.
WRONG! Police officers will not just hop up and search your car based on what you've been convicted of. If what you are saying is true we would have VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION WITH EVERY SEARCH. No one is saying that they DO look at you in a great light, because police subculture doesn't view the public as A-class citizens, however what you are posting is lunacy, and why you continue to do it is beyond me.
Again, you have provided NO DETAILS about this alleged experience you said happened, so again, it is safe to say that you made the entire incident up.
Yet you can't tell me if this is project 54 stuff, Tacnet or anything dealing with squad car computers....LMAO! Sure man. EVERY SQUAD CAR IN AMERICA WITH A COMPUTER HAS THIS INFO.....
You just happened to have a copy of your records on hand to prove your point...what....the cars have PRINTERS also? They printed you out a copy while you were in the back of a squad car?
Wrong again on what? You are making it seem as if all squad cars have teh ability to dig up your info on teh spot because they have computers. I am saying many departments DON'T have this ability because they don't have the funds to pay for the equipment. In addition, these people rely on DISPATCH to relay information to them about the people being detained, so that about sums it up. So you are a convicted felon, yet you were able to work with the city of concord from 99 to 03? Please tell us where you were employed and what your job duties consisted of.
WRONG! Police officers will not just hop up and search your car based on what you've been convicted of. If what you are saying is true we would have VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION WITH EVERY SEARCH. No one is saying that they DO look at you in a great light, because police subculture doesn't view the public as A-class citizens, however what you are posting is lunacy, and why you continue to do it is beyond me.
Again, you have provided NO DETAILS about this alleged experience you said happened, so again, it is safe to say that you made the entire incident up.
Yet you can't tell me if this is project 54 stuff, Tacnet or anything dealing with squad car computers....LMAO! Sure man. EVERY SQUAD CAR IN AMERICA WITH A COMPUTER HAS THIS INFO.....
You just happened to have a copy of your records on hand to prove your point...what....the cars have PRINTERS also? They printed you out a copy while you were in the back of a squad car?
53% of 72 is 38.16. so that makes Concord PD's budget ~$38 million.
Thats more than the budget for the entire city of Pittsburg. So when my ass gets followed around by four crown vics on my way to my boys house, you better believe they are running my plates, then running my record....all from within the car.
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Thats more than the budget for the entire city of Pittsburg. So when my ass gets followed around by four crown vics on my way to my boys house, you better believe they are running my plates, then running my record....all from within the car.
~k.
More proof that a lot of people here don't read before they reply:
LMAO@"obviously not!" That was said BEFORE friday (which is today), and I don't have class until 3 hours from now. Did you read? Obviously not.
So, because YOU were DUMB ENOUGH TO GET CAUGHT and spend four seconds inside of a police squad car before you name dropped I'm keeping it square? LMAO!!!!! Sure, "Mr. Im a felon from concord". Also, if I sat in the back of the car for a day or one hour I sure wouldn't waste my time trying to look at the computers in the front seat while I am in back, handcuffed and barely able to see through the front because of the barrier. :dead:
Sure, a convicted felon was able to get a job in the street department...anything is possible in concord. BTW, can I call you a square for working with the concord PD?
No, an officer will NOT search anyone if they feel like it. They search YOU because you obviously have a spirit of weakness like a sniveling cur. Again, if police went around doing this you would have civil rights violations EVERYTIME someone is searched. Show me in the constitution where police will search anyone, or better yet, show me where this is concord policy.
You are a dummy. I can gurantee that if you were honest and told EXACTLY what happened I could tell you why you were searched. Unfortunately you don't possess an honest bone in your body so I'll chalk that. As far as not caring about the constitution? Some don't some do, and when major violations come to light the city is usually held liable and cash out.
Again, if what you are saying is true (which it isn't) that would mean all police search without a reason and violate the constitution.
Again, YOU were the one who came on here babbling about how the police mistreated you, yet when you are asked to explain what actually happened you FAILED TO ADDRESS IT. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and believe your mumbo-jumbo just cause you said it. See, I believe Nav because he explained the shit, I told him where I could see why the police searched the car, but I also told him their behavior was inappropriate. But you? You simply come off like a raging lunatic with NOTHING to back your claim. This is not about me and my experience with the police. This is about YOU and YOUR so-called experience with the police.Stop using fallicies and bottle spinning.
With no way to validate this numbe rand with no source besides yourself how are we to know these numbers are accurate? Again, if you didn't even understand the questions I asked you about Tacnet, I'm sure you're a credible source for info in regards to the percentage of of squad cars with up to date technology...Sorry, junior YOU loose again.
Sure, and this was before you got the "street department" (informant.)
Sure, and they just happened to be investigating you (lol), and it just so happened that they turned it over to you when you got caught drunk driving...LMAO!!!!! I AM LAUGHING AT YOU.
Sure, pal.
LMAO@"obviously not!" That was said BEFORE friday (which is today), and I don't have class until 3 hours from now. Did you read? Obviously not.
So, because YOU were DUMB ENOUGH TO GET CAUGHT and spend four seconds inside of a police squad car before you name dropped I'm keeping it square? LMAO!!!!! Sure, "Mr. Im a felon from concord". Also, if I sat in the back of the car for a day or one hour I sure wouldn't waste my time trying to look at the computers in the front seat while I am in back, handcuffed and barely able to see through the front because of the barrier. :dead:
Sure, a convicted felon was able to get a job in the street department...anything is possible in concord. BTW, can I call you a square for working with the concord PD?
No, an officer will NOT search anyone if they feel like it. They search YOU because you obviously have a spirit of weakness like a sniveling cur. Again, if police went around doing this you would have civil rights violations EVERYTIME someone is searched. Show me in the constitution where police will search anyone, or better yet, show me where this is concord policy.
You are a dummy. I can gurantee that if you were honest and told EXACTLY what happened I could tell you why you were searched. Unfortunately you don't possess an honest bone in your body so I'll chalk that. As far as not caring about the constitution? Some don't some do, and when major violations come to light the city is usually held liable and cash out.
Again, if what you are saying is true (which it isn't) that would mean all police search without a reason and violate the constitution.
Again, YOU were the one who came on here babbling about how the police mistreated you, yet when you are asked to explain what actually happened you FAILED TO ADDRESS IT. Listen, I'm not going to sit here and believe your mumbo-jumbo just cause you said it. See, I believe Nav because he explained the shit, I told him where I could see why the police searched the car, but I also told him their behavior was inappropriate. But you? You simply come off like a raging lunatic with NOTHING to back your claim. This is not about me and my experience with the police. This is about YOU and YOUR so-called experience with the police.Stop using fallicies and bottle spinning.
With no way to validate this numbe rand with no source besides yourself how are we to know these numbers are accurate? Again, if you didn't even understand the questions I asked you about Tacnet, I'm sure you're a credible source for info in regards to the percentage of of squad cars with up to date technology...Sorry, junior YOU loose again.
Sure, and this was before you got the "street department" (informant.)
Sure, and they just happened to be investigating you (lol), and it just so happened that they turned it over to you when you got caught drunk driving...LMAO!!!!! I AM LAUGHING AT YOU.
Sure, pal.
Can you please post a break down of the concord polices budget, and how money is allocated. It would be a blessing if you posted how much went into squad cars, how much went into police renovcation, how much went into the helicopters they were leasing, how much they had to spend on outsourcing (getting other departments to cover other areas), how much was spent on C.O.P.S type organizations, how much was spent on police training, and how much was devoted to liability and insurance.
Thanks a million.
Thanks a million.
Huh?!?!?! WTF does a CELL PHONE have to do with me having class and asking my teacher questions before and after class? LMAO!!!!
I am a moron, in school, with no felony convictions and the potential to parlay this into six figures if I decide to become a criminologist. You are a felon with the potential to never make more than 30k per year. Yes, I am the moron. Listen buddy, you continue to open a can of worms and NOW you want to make it seem like I'm insulting you but YOU were the one who made the "keep it square" comment. So, I'm not bashing you, I'm simply telling it like it is. You were dumb enough to commit a crime and get caught. I wasn't.:dead:
Again, if I am under stress from being locked up and hand cuffed my priorities are not looking at a less than 13 inch monitor. My priorties are keeping my mouth shut so I don't get the rodney king treatment, or I'm trying to find a way out the cuffs and out the vehicle. Also, some barriers you CAN'T look through because the holes are minute (DUMB ASS)
The way you're talking I wouldn't be shocked if you were some type of informant. Look at you. Here it is I'm telling people they need to start learning their rights because the majority don't know them, and not knowing them allows the police to keep us down and mistreat us, yet you are basically saying not to learn about them and to simply roll over and accept it. Again, it wouldn't shock me if you did work for the police.
Ok, I need to get out more yet I've been to over 25 different states and 2 countries. You simply get pulled over in concord for driving drunk and drop your family members name so they can give you a pass. Again, if police went around doing this you would have civil rights violations EVERYTIME someone is searched. Show me in the constitution where police will search anyone, or better yet, show me where this is concord policy. In fact, show me where this is the policy of ANY department!!!! If this IS happening to you (I believe you're a liar from teh pit of hell) this is the MORE reason why you need to speak out, demand to know what the law REALLY states and hold these people accountable if your rights have been violated and policy has been broken. Instead what do you do? Come on here and say madness like "FUCK THE POLICE". Here it is I'm trying to help educate people, but you are actually trying to keep people DUMBFOUNDED.
You are a dummy for once again not reading what is posted on staying on point. Here it is I have REPEATED the same question over and over, yet in your infinite wisdom you continue to avoid it.
I am not saying police do NOT violate rights you idiot. What I am saying is the police did not violate YOUR rights, and that if all police did excatly what you're implying (which they DON'T), the constitution would be violated EACH AND EVERYTIME A PERSON IS SEARCHED. Please, READ and THINK critically before you respond. No wonder you got caught and are now a felon. Dummies usually get caught.:dead:
Someone that can't comprehend it? LMAO! Sure pal. Listen, you are making the claim that a cop pulled you over, yet you don't even tell us WHY you got rolled on. In addition, you don't tell us WHAT was inside the car that caused teh officer to search. If they asked to search the car, you said NO, and they did it anyway the majority of the time is because they have SOMETHING ELSE TO GO ON that YOU (the general public) are NOT AWARE OF and this allows them to get away with doing it to unsuspecting people in the future. Also, it doesn't matter if you have a record or not. Police subculture is the "us VS them" culture. The felon and the non felon are the same to them and the view isn't a good one.
Here is what I asked my teacher (who is a retired SGT) and I wrote down what he told me.
When asked about the amount of cars in america that have computers he said:
"around 75 to 85% have them, but a lot of them function in different ways depending on the agency. Depending on how new they are they can bring up your record and your I.D. to prove who you are, and some can even get into the FBI data base, but it would have to go through dispatch." He went on to say "In concord they have full blown color ones with the windows operating system, and we can pull up pictures and records, but some people are still relying on dispatch to give them criminal history, and even then when the systems are old it takes awhile for dispatch to relay the information because of the delay, so they may not bother with it."
Now here is what he said about cameras:
"Far less departments have cameras and you would think that more had them because of all of the police liability issues. The reason why less departments have them is because they are more expensive than the computers, require a lot of space and require a lot of service maintenace." :dead:
When asked about police pulling someone over strictly because of their criminal record he said, "That is illegal and if that is happening people need to be held accountable because it is a type of profiling. A record doesn't mean a person is guilty of a crime, but officers can use that in conjuction with something else to justify why they did a search."
Again, this is from my teacher who is a retired,Sgt and I asked him these questions before class. I will take the words of my teacher who has been in law enforcement for over 20 years and who teaches criminal justice,than an ex-felon who can't even tell us where he got his stats from or why he was actually pulled over. :dead:
No I am not a republican. I am a registered democrat and I believe voting is a waste of my time.
Again, awareness and knowledge are key. If people knew about their rights and were more informed about police policy you would have more police being held accountable for violating civil rights (when it happens.)
I am a moron, in school, with no felony convictions and the potential to parlay this into six figures if I decide to become a criminologist. You are a felon with the potential to never make more than 30k per year. Yes, I am the moron. Listen buddy, you continue to open a can of worms and NOW you want to make it seem like I'm insulting you but YOU were the one who made the "keep it square" comment. So, I'm not bashing you, I'm simply telling it like it is. You were dumb enough to commit a crime and get caught. I wasn't.:dead:
Again, if I am under stress from being locked up and hand cuffed my priorities are not looking at a less than 13 inch monitor. My priorties are keeping my mouth shut so I don't get the rodney king treatment, or I'm trying to find a way out the cuffs and out the vehicle. Also, some barriers you CAN'T look through because the holes are minute (DUMB ASS)
The way you're talking I wouldn't be shocked if you were some type of informant. Look at you. Here it is I'm telling people they need to start learning their rights because the majority don't know them, and not knowing them allows the police to keep us down and mistreat us, yet you are basically saying not to learn about them and to simply roll over and accept it. Again, it wouldn't shock me if you did work for the police.
Ok, I need to get out more yet I've been to over 25 different states and 2 countries. You simply get pulled over in concord for driving drunk and drop your family members name so they can give you a pass. Again, if police went around doing this you would have civil rights violations EVERYTIME someone is searched. Show me in the constitution where police will search anyone, or better yet, show me where this is concord policy. In fact, show me where this is the policy of ANY department!!!! If this IS happening to you (I believe you're a liar from teh pit of hell) this is the MORE reason why you need to speak out, demand to know what the law REALLY states and hold these people accountable if your rights have been violated and policy has been broken. Instead what do you do? Come on here and say madness like "FUCK THE POLICE". Here it is I'm trying to help educate people, but you are actually trying to keep people DUMBFOUNDED.
You are a dummy for once again not reading what is posted on staying on point. Here it is I have REPEATED the same question over and over, yet in your infinite wisdom you continue to avoid it.
I am not saying police do NOT violate rights you idiot. What I am saying is the police did not violate YOUR rights, and that if all police did excatly what you're implying (which they DON'T), the constitution would be violated EACH AND EVERYTIME A PERSON IS SEARCHED. Please, READ and THINK critically before you respond. No wonder you got caught and are now a felon. Dummies usually get caught.:dead:
Someone that can't comprehend it? LMAO! Sure pal. Listen, you are making the claim that a cop pulled you over, yet you don't even tell us WHY you got rolled on. In addition, you don't tell us WHAT was inside the car that caused teh officer to search. If they asked to search the car, you said NO, and they did it anyway the majority of the time is because they have SOMETHING ELSE TO GO ON that YOU (the general public) are NOT AWARE OF and this allows them to get away with doing it to unsuspecting people in the future. Also, it doesn't matter if you have a record or not. Police subculture is the "us VS them" culture. The felon and the non felon are the same to them and the view isn't a good one.
Here is what I asked my teacher (who is a retired SGT) and I wrote down what he told me.
When asked about the amount of cars in america that have computers he said:
"around 75 to 85% have them, but a lot of them function in different ways depending on the agency. Depending on how new they are they can bring up your record and your I.D. to prove who you are, and some can even get into the FBI data base, but it would have to go through dispatch." He went on to say "In concord they have full blown color ones with the windows operating system, and we can pull up pictures and records, but some people are still relying on dispatch to give them criminal history, and even then when the systems are old it takes awhile for dispatch to relay the information because of the delay, so they may not bother with it."
Now here is what he said about cameras:
"Far less departments have cameras and you would think that more had them because of all of the police liability issues. The reason why less departments have them is because they are more expensive than the computers, require a lot of space and require a lot of service maintenace." :dead:
When asked about police pulling someone over strictly because of their criminal record he said, "That is illegal and if that is happening people need to be held accountable because it is a type of profiling. A record doesn't mean a person is guilty of a crime, but officers can use that in conjuction with something else to justify why they did a search."
Again, this is from my teacher who is a retired,Sgt and I asked him these questions before class. I will take the words of my teacher who has been in law enforcement for over 20 years and who teaches criminal justice,than an ex-felon who can't even tell us where he got his stats from or why he was actually pulled over. :dead:
No I am not a republican. I am a registered democrat and I believe voting is a waste of my time.
Again, awareness and knowledge are key. If people knew about their rights and were more informed about police policy you would have more police being held accountable for violating civil rights (when it happens.)