iono man, i agree with him, ive been all over cali, and ive only seen shit like that there
ive been all over cali as well and many other places and fresno is not the only place i have seen norte's wear blue or sur wear red and thats a fact but every man is entitled to their own opinion...
lol and for the record im not saying fresno isnt a shit hole but to say its not grimy then i guess you all can not considerate it to be a shit hole lol!!!