Condoleezza Rice

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I think it would be the death of the Democratic party.

They're always running their mouths about "Diversity" and "Minorities Rights" and "Women's Rights" and all this other junk, and yet, you never see Black people in positions of authority within the Dem party.

Condi being President would finally make people do that INDEPENDENT RESEARCH, instead of just taking other peoples' word for it that Republicans=Bad, Democrats=Good.
 
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if cheney stepped down and they made her vice president. it would make her the favorite. hilary is the fav for the democrats. rice could beat her. she could strike at the heart of hilary's support, women and blacks and still retain the red states because she could have bush on the road for her.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
I think it would be the death of the Democratic party.

They're always running their mouths about "Diversity" and "Minorities Rights" and "Women's Rights" and all this other junk, and yet, you never see Black people in positions of authority within the Dem party.

Condi being President would finally make people do that INDEPENDENT RESEARCH, instead of just taking other peoples' word for it that Republicans=Bad, Democrats=Good.
Ya, but isn't that like the closet racist who always says, "ya, well i have black friends, or my best friend is black", and then, with their actions, shows that they are truly racist.

Yes, it is great that Condi is in a very high position of power, just like Colin Powell. But. let's not kid ourselves into thinking that her position of power is helping the average black man or woman. In fact, when i have brought her up as a good role model for blacks, my in-laws just remark that she is an uncle tom! Which is definately short sided and ignorant from my in-laws part, but it is how they, and possibly many black's, interpret Condi's rise to power.
 
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Hillary Clinton would help black people way more than Rice would. Fuck her. After I watched some interview with her during the 9-11 commission I decided that her intelligence is on the level of Bush's.
 

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^^Hillary isn't far from Rice. The gov't makes small changes so people don't say shit so they are submissive. The easiest way to control someone is to make them think you did something when you didn't do shit. Welcome to the American Gov't.

On a side note...The US Gov't gave McDonald's 600K to advertise chicken nuggets overseas. Like they need the fuckin money.
 
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Ya, but isn't that like the closet racist who always says, "ya, well i have black friends, or my best friend is black", and then, with their actions, shows that they are truly racist.

Yes, it is great that Condi is in a very high position of power, just like Colin Powell. But. let's not kid ourselves into thinking that her position of power is helping the average black man or woman. In fact, when i have brought her up as a good role model for blacks, my in-laws just remark that she is an uncle tom! Which is definately short sided and ignorant from my in-laws part, but it is how they, and possibly many black's, interpret Condi's rise to power.
The Racist to be most afraid of, is the White man who has been raised within a Minority culture (Black, Latino, etc.) and is considered "down", and that proceeds to go around labeling other Black/Mexican/Japenese people as "not ___", because they do not conform to that White Man's newly-found, racist definitions: the Black that speaks slang and doesn't "snitch", the Mexican that is required to speak Spanish, and so on. -- These are the most dangerous out of any Racists you will ever find.

Condi is a different breed of Racist, if you INSIST on using such a word. She IGNORES race which, last I checked, was THE WHOLE POINT.....but in today's age, where up is down and west is east, its now "racist" to not pander to your own individual race, to not insist upon acting like your designated stereotype, and so on. It is despicable the way some people think, but this...verily...is it. This is how the thinking goes.

If Condi runs for President, and we don't see her in Barbershops, getting her hair did, wearing gaudy jewelry, speaking with a Black People Accent, and so on, expect her to be ostracized, labeled "Uncle Tom" and everything else.



With that having been explained, what I am telling you is that this Presidential position transcends all others. Bar none. There is not a single position in the world that even REMOTELY COMPARES to President of the United States of America.

And for this woman to be, not only the first Female President, but the First Black President, would send all the messages we've been trying to send since [Black voyagers first discovered this continent long before] the Pilgrims first arrived here on the Mayflower.

Black people would IMMEDIATELY snap out of this complex and wack condition that they have been living in, voting 90%+ Liberal/Democrat, which does NOTIHNG but virtually GUARANTEE marginalization.

This isn't about ____ person, being of ___ race, and doing things for ____ race. This is about one person, who happens to be a Female and Black, representing the absolute pinnacle of achievement. It would transform this nation, it would be that big.
 

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Just cause she's black and a woman doesn't mean shit. She could be "the devil" for all you know.

I do agree that ignoring race is good because it's not real. It's simply a social construct. I won't get into that, but just cause she's black and a chick, doesn't mean shit. To other people it might, but SHE could be a stupid crack whore and get into office. That's great a black woman is in office, but if she's a crack whore it's ridiculous. She's a liar. Just like every other politician or anyone that tries to manipulate you into agreeing with them.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
The Racist to be most afraid of, is the White man who has been raised within a Minority culture (Black, Latino, etc.) and is considered "down", and that proceeds to go around labeling other Black/Mexican/Japenese people as "not ___", because they do not conform to that White Man's newly-found, racist definitions: the Black that speaks slang and doesn't "snitch", the Mexican that is required to speak Spanish, and so on. -- These are the most dangerous out of any Racists you will ever find.

Condi is a different breed of Racist, if you INSIST on using such a word. She IGNORES race which, last I checked, was THE WHOLE POINT.....but in today's age, where up is down and west is east, its now "racist" to not pander to your own individual race, to not insist upon acting like your designated stereotype, and so on. It is despicable the way some people think, but this...verily...is it. This is how the thinking goes.

If Condi runs for President, and we don't see her in Barbershops, getting her hair did, wearing gaudy jewelry, speaking with a Black People Accent, and so on, expect her to be ostracized, labeled "Uncle Tom" and everything else.



With that having been explained, what I am telling you is that this Presidential position transcends all others. Bar none. There is not a single position in the world that even REMOTELY COMPARES to President of the United States of America.

And for this woman to be, not only the first Female President, but the First Black President, would send all the messages we've been trying to send since [Black voyagers first discovered this continent long before] the Pilgrims first arrived here on the Mayflower.

Black people would IMMEDIATELY snap out of this complex and wack condition that they have been living in, voting 90%+ Liberal/Democrat, which does NOTIHNG but virtually GUARANTEE marginalization.

This isn't about ____ person, being of ___ race, and doing things for ____ race. This is about one person, who happens to be a Female and Black, representing the absolute pinnacle of achievement. It would transform this nation, it would be that big.
Your original point was that it would be the end of the democratic party because it would somehow show that they are not for minority, and women, rights. And, it would somehow make people think objectively about the old ideologize of conservatives. But, if the minorities themselves have already excluded Condi as one of there own (which they may or may not have) then it is still a really tough sell. Yes, the appearance of it would be great, black woman as the most powerful person in the world, but would she be looked at as simply a pawn for conservatives? Remember, this is a woman who has been defending President Bush's actions for the past 6 or so years. Minorities, and to some degree women, are not just gonna forget her track record during that time, simply because she is Black, even though white america may think so. Now, don't get me wrong, i am not saying she would or would not be an ideal candidate, all i am playing is that, if she were to run, would she have Jesse Jackson's support (say what you say, he seems to rally Black America very)? How about other Black and minority leaders who minorities and Black America looks up to? The party lines just seem to divided to me....
 
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DOES IT MATTER WHO IS ELECTED PRESIDENT??? NO!!!!

The entire two party (democrat/republican) system of government is a sham designed to trick the American people into believing they have choice. Everything points to this truth, and the genius is that they tell you what they are doing to your face, but you still believe the lies you are told to believe...
Examples?
1.) This is a REPUBLIC. Not a "true democracy". Wikipedia if you dont know the difference.
2.) The electoral college is the ONLY factor in determining who is president. The people's vote have NO bearing in determining the president... They say it does. But if the electoral college has the right to overturn their states votes, then you put 2 and 2 together.
3.) Supreme Court elected Bush in the his first election. (*wink*wink* DirtyShoez) F' all the excuses, that is a statement. Listen!

Have you heard of:
FREEMASONRY?
SKULL AND BONES?
WORLD BANK?
BOHEMIAN GROVE?

Look into who these...

You will learn why presidents and elections are just illusions.
'You are a slave neo, born into a world that you cannot see, nor taste nor touch' Morpheus/Matrix
 
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IT AINT ABOUT RACE OR WHO SHE IS OR WHAT SHE DOES...

THESE ARE ALL DISTRACTIONS THAT LEAD YOU AWAY FROM THE BOTTOM LINE...

THERE IS NO FREEDOM, NO CHOICE, NO EQUALITY, NO JUSTICE, NO CONSTITUTION...

(Racism is real, dont get me wrong... i will show you how deep the racism goes... But this right here, aint about race)

None of em care about black people or anyone poor...period...not dem or
repub... we as black people gotta care for ourselves... if they wanna be racist, lock us up, not help us, it is on us to get to a level where they cant hurt us...it is on us to seize power, seize money, become united as one nation...and stand up to them... quit cryin about how fools are racist and do something about it... i'll be at your side when u ready...

------'If you cant do what other races have done...Then you had better die!'-------
----MARCUS GARVEY------
 

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PaRaDoX said:
DOES IT MATTER WHO IS ELECTED PRESIDENT??? NO!!!!

The entire two party (democrat/republican) system of government is a sham designed to trick the American people into believing they have choice.
While I agree, there is not a two party system. If you believe that, go back to wikipedia. There are multiple parties (independent, green, communist, socialist, etc etc etc). I do agree though that the Gov't/America wants people to think there are two parties because those two parties are the same they just don't say it.

I said somethin yesterday that some of my friends thought was a good idea. Now if/WHEN we have to form a revolution, since the gov't is going to take control, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when...And their little expansion world-wide to "get rid of al-Queda" is just another way to fuck everyone. But seriously, there's a SHIT load of people in our country that do NOT support the gov't, but most of these people are fighting each other. My main idea was gang members, but shit, there's a ton of them and if they all unified to fight against the one thing that really is trying to oppress them along with anyone and everyone else who hates the gov't, something would actually get done.

You got liberals tryin to get rid of guns, which is stupid. The reason we have the right to bear arms is to take over if we have to incase the gov't took too much power. Hense, what is going on RIGHT NOW and has been going on for a long ass time. Democrats and republicans are working together on this, to fuck the American people into doing what they want them to. I dunno about any of you, but I sure as fuck don't wanna not be allowed to have a fucking gun if the military has them. They ain't comin into my place taking any of my shit or any bullshit like that.

Our country IS fucked. We ARE doomed. There is NO turning back and the system will not be fixed. The gov't will tell the people it's fixed, but it won't be. That's just their way of shutting people up so that the gov't can go about their corrupt business as usual.

By the way, the more people feed into "race" as a real thing, the more it becomes a real thing. It's a social contruct, I will say it every time this shit is brought up. Race is NOT real. Anyone who believes it is, is only fuckin themself by stigmatizing themselves and everyone else in the world.
 
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PaRaDoX said:
DOES IT MATTER WHO IS ELECTED PRESIDENT??? NO!!!!

The entire two party (democrat/republican) system of government is a sham designed to trick the American people into believing they have choice. Everything points to this truth, and the genius is that they tell you what they are doing to your face, but you still believe the lies you are told to believe...
Examples?
1.) This is a REPUBLIC. Not a "true democracy". Wikipedia if you dont know the difference.
2.) The electoral college is the ONLY factor in determining who is president. The people's vote have NO bearing in determining the president... They say it does. But if the electoral college has the right to overturn their states votes, then you put 2 and 2 together.
3.) Supreme Court elected Bush in 96. F' all the excuses, that is a statement. Listen!

Have you heard of:
FREEMASONRY?
SKULL AND BONES?
WORLD BANK?
BOHEMIAN GROVE?

Look into who these...

You will learn why presidents and elections are just illusions.
'You are a slave neo, born into a world that you cannot see, nor taste nor touch' Morpheus/Matrix
Slow.....down. The GOM is not some cheap whore you can hop back into after being gone for a while. You need to ease yourself back in. I would suggest some E-K.Y. (otherwise known as OBSERVATION) before getting started.

For this reason alone, that you are so rusty (no sharp man would say Bush was elected in 96....no smart man would say that stopping a recount is equivalent to electing a man president), I am going to allow you to survive...for now.
 
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MISTADON said:
Your original point was that it would be the end of the democratic party because it would somehow show that they are not for minority, and women, rights. And, it would somehow make people think objectively about the old ideologize of conservatives. But, if the minorities themselves have already excluded Condi as one of there own (which they may or may not have) then it is still a really tough sell. Yes, the appearance of it would be great, black woman as the most powerful person in the world, but would she be looked at as simply a pawn for conservatives? Remember, this is a woman who has been defending President Bush's actions for the past 6 or so years. Minorities, and to some degree women, are not just gonna forget her track record during that time, simply because she is Black, even though white america may think so. Now, don't get me wrong, i am not saying she would or would not be an ideal candidate, all i am playing is that, if she were to run, would she have Jesse Jackson's support (say what you say, he seems to rally Black America very)? How about other Black and minority leaders who minorities and Black America looks up to? The party lines just seem to divided to me....
This is all what I am saying. Those people do not matter. They are old school, and mostly hypocrites.

They demand that Blacks be treated equally.....but just about turn violent when someone suggests eliminating Affirmative Action. They spout off that "not the color of skin, but content of character".....and then go around labeling people Uncle Toms and Traitors because they are Republicans/Conservatives. Thats how they roll. As long as the Slavemaster (of ANY party) is keeping the money coming, and they can MAKE A LIVING FROM TALKING, they are going to CONTINUE saying what keeps the money coming in.

Condoleezza on the other hand is the exact opposite of all this bullshit. A Self-Made Black Woman Conservative from a Middle-Class (Black Middle Class...aka, Basically Poor) Background that speaks 5 languages (easily among the MOST IMPORTANT in the world, minus the 5 languages Japanese, Hindi, Arabic, Portuguese and Chinese...4 of them Eastern).

There is no comparison.
 
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And finally....


This:

PaRaDoX said:
IT AINT ABOUT RACE OR WHO SHE IS OR WHAT SHE DOES...

THESE ARE ALL DISTRACTIONS THAT LEAD YOU AWAY FROM THE BOTTOM LINE...

THERE IS NO FREEDOM, NO CHOICE, NO EQUALITY, NO JUSTICE, NO CONSTITUTION...

(Racism is real, dont get me wrong... i will show you how deep the racism goes... But this right here, aint about race)

None of em care about black people or anyone poor...period...not dem or
repub... we as black people gotta care for ourselves... if they wanna be racist, lock us up, not help us, it is on us to get to a level where they cant hurt us...it is on us to seize power, seize money, become united as one nation...and stand up to them... quit cryin about how fools are racist and do something about it... i'll be at your side when u ready...

------'If you cant do what other races have done...Then you had better die!'-------
----MARCUS GARVEY------

This:

Sixxness said:
Just cause she's black and a woman doesn't mean shit. She could be "the devil" for all you know.

I do agree that ignoring race is good because it's not real. It's simply a social construct. I won't get into that, but just cause she's black and a chick, doesn't mean shit. To other people it might, but SHE could be a stupid crack whore and get into office. That's great a black woman is in office, but if she's a crack whore it's ridiculous. She's a liar. Just like every other politician or anyone that tries to manipulate you into agreeing with them.

And all the other shit.....DOES NOT MATTER.

WHEN are people going to learn that even if MLK WAS fucking hookers, he STILL set a powerful example? WHEN are people going to learn that even if Malcolm X WAS an ex-con, he STILL set a powerful example? WHEN are people going to learn that even IF Halle Berry is HALF WHITE.....she STILL set a powerful example?

This IS NOT ABOUT a Black woman coming into office, and then suddenly, millions of black people are instantly successful, 50 of the roughest Ghettos turn into Booming Middle-Class communities, and so on.....that would make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!

If a BLACK WOMAN could be president, there is SURELY a LIBERAL Black Woman thinking, "Then why not me?" -- If a BLACK WOMAN could be president, then there SURELY is a COMMUNIST thinking, "Then why not me?" -- Condi being president would FUCK THIS COUNTRY UP (in a GOOD way). This isn't about Black vs White. This is about POSSIBLE vs IMPOSSIBLE. People are already sitting here saying, "It doesn't matter anyways", and all this other shit......so be real.

WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT THAT "CORRUPT", "LYING" PRESIDENT BEING A BLACK FEMALE, INSTEAD OF ANOTHER WHITE PERSON, IF NONE OF THIS MATTERS ANYWAY?
 

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Dirty Shoez said:
WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT THAT "CORRUPT", "LYING" PRESIDENT BEING A BLACK FEMALE, INSTEAD OF ANOTHER WHITE PERSON, IF NONE OF THIS MATTERS ANYWAY?
It doesn't matter. I do have to say you are right, it doesn't matter who it is or what color they are. The gov't only cares about one color, GREEN. And all those rich pieces of shit are the ones that control the gov't (don't tell me they don't, you won't convince me). Regardless of race, she's a piece of shit cause she's okay with the corruptness, and the lying, and the fake ass war on terrorism, etc etc etc.

What I was getting at is, there are going to be even more negative stereotypes of blacks if that crooked whore gets elected. I sure as fuck don't want her representing me or this country. When shit goes wrong, it's cause we have a "black president," I can see it now.

But we have had a gay president. A lot of people just don't know. "He (Buchanan) was the only bachelor president..." (wikipedia)....Dude lived with another guy for 16 years and they just didn't say they were gay. He was called a "Nancy" though, which I am told is what the term was back then.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
(no sharp man would say Bush was elected in 96...
Oops, my bad. I fucked up on the date. *Post edited*.

Moving on...

Oohh am i rusty big homie? My bad... Out researching what i'm talkin about for a while... Not talkin music... I forgot siccness was more than that... Much more...

I dont give a damn about numbers of posts or hours spent logged in.