Clash between sience and religion

[JLMACN]

This thread is a good example of what religion does.

5000

 

[murderman]

This thread is a good example of what religion does.

5000

whats that? makes you stupid?

 

[JLMACN]

argue


what does argueing lead too?

5000

 

[2-0-NINE]

you dont think an emptiness exists?

If the whole universe is empty, there is not existing, there is a difference between the thought of existence, and existence itself

This thread is a good example of what religion does.

5000

No, I won't lie, some Christians use science to prove biblical facts.

 

[ilikeballs]

Is this a serious question?

no, its a rhetorical question to get you thinking

 

[ilikeballs]

This has nothing to do with atheism or evolution (or creationism), but why can't existence be empty?

it can be empty. but then you would have to explain how we got here if there is no god. do you believe existence is empty?

 

[ilikeballs]

You're the one who made the comment if you dont care to elabirate on your theory then keep it to yourself instead of trying to express it to others...you made the statement i asked the question.

and i am attempting to answer your question with another. whats the problem??

 

[ilikeballs]

I think the 'Stockton needs to read 30 pages a day' thread needs to be renamed to 'jon21 needs to read 100 pages a day'.

lol...100 pages of what?? bullshit that the school system has been feeding you.

 

[mrraskal666]

I HATE THAT I NEVER LEARNED EVOLUTION BECAUSE THE TEACHER SAID IT WOULD OFFENED THE RELIGIONS

 

[ilikeballs]

Evolution takes billions of years. Our present state isn't a mysterious miracle. It's simply how we've ended up over billions of years. Eyes started out as simply light detectors, but became more advanced over billions of years. Even some microscopic life has rudimentary eyes, used solely for detecting light.

If someone doesn't believe in an evolution of life, they probably never will. Much like those who believed the earth was the center of the universe, or that the earth was flat, there will be those who resist for religious purposes.

^^^is this guy serious. so then the eye and all its systems formed by chance over millions of years? you think this is how we've ended up. you think we are improving and geting better as time goes by. if you open your eyes you'll see that the very opposite is true. we are getting smaller and weaker. we were already perfect from the moment of creation. if you dont think god created you then tell me how life can begin out of chaos from the big dud.

 

[2-0-NINE]

He is a she, Cannibal Crow is a woman.
Jon don't bother, it will go nowhere.

 

[ilikeballs]

^^^man its hopeless to convince someone through typing.

 

[Cmoke]

trying to convince people over the internet is an impossible feat when the other people dont view your religous beliefs. Dont know why you would try, are you trying to say that all other outlooks and beliefs that are non religous are wrong? If you know somthing everyone else doesnt then why dont you come out and stun the world with it. Unitll that never happens you can simply believe what you want to believe and respect others beliefs, and dont even try to say you do or you are because you snicker at peoples outlooks. So tell me how this all started, life the life cycle from the beginning how god was made, how somthing somone or somthing is created out of nothing. please shock me.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Whether it be political or religious views, like you said CMOKE it's almost impossible to convince someone online.

 

[k-nine]

trying to convince people over the internet is an impossible feat when the other people dont view your religous beliefs. Dont know why you would try, are you trying to say that all other outlooks and beliefs that are non religous are wrong? If you know somthing everyone else doesnt then why dont you come out and stun the world with it. Unitll that never happens you can simply believe what you want to believe and respect others beliefs, and dont even try to say you do or you are because you snicker at peoples outlooks. So tell me how this all started, life the life cycle from the beginning how god was made, how somthing somone or somthing is created out of nothing. please shock me.[/QUOTE]
no matter how you look at it, something or someone must have always been. to me it is more logical to believe that god is the uncreated than to believe that matter has just always been.

 

[XxtraMannish]

If the whole universe is empty, there is not existing, there is a difference between the thought of existence, and existence itself



No, I won't lie, some Christians use science to prove biblical facts.

space has to exist in order for there to be emptiness. absolute non existence is something completely unfathomable. the closest our minds can come is the idea of a lack of objects in an infinite space.

 

[XxtraMannish]

^^^is this guy serious. so then the eye and all its systems formed by chance over millions of years? you think this is how we've ended up. you think we are improving and geting better as time goes by. if you open your eyes you'll see that the very opposite is true. we are getting smaller and weaker. ]

Isn't that an example of physical change and adaptation through time? I'm pretty sure there's a word for that. I just cant seem to think of what it is though. Anybody know what that's called?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^uh, hmm. It's on the tip of my tongue. Evil...ah, evol...uh, shit...Eviloos...I dunno, I give up.

 

[CannibalCrow]

^^^is this guy serious. so then the eye and all its systems formed by chance over millions of years? you think this is how we've ended up. you think we are improving and geting better as time goes by. if you open your eyes you'll see that the very opposite is true. we are getting smaller and weaker. we were already perfect from the moment of creation. if you dont think god created you then tell me how life can begin out of chaos from the big dud.

Ok, if that's what you believe I have respect for that. Nothing I can say can change that.

 

[kayvee]

ha this thread reminded me of nacho libre.

~k.