Damn I go to work and look what happens!
swoop187 said:
What kind of propaganda do you read? We invaded Iraq and thats it, thats all. So i guess George Bush would have to invade 6 more countries in less then too years to meet your propaganda quota.
Did you bother to read the full article? I didn't just pull that quote out my ass or make it up for my own amusement. Former NATO head General Wesley Clark made that statement in his book about the time pre 9/11 and after leading up to Iraq. Now he has been less than fully truthfull regarding his time in NATO and the full events leading to Iraq but this isn't one of those times.
I refuse to willingly accept my own enslavement. It sounds like you have already willingly slipped on the shackles and choose to wear them proudly.
We didnt invade Afghanistan. We were allowed into Afghanistan by the government.
US troops were in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan 6 months BEFORE 9/11 happened. There was already a plan to invade and take control of the middle east/central asia on day 1 for the Bush administration. The current administration was planning to go into Iraq since 1997. Venezuela and S. America are next if the US succeeds in its current plan in the Arab states.
You think our government is EVIL. How the fuck are they evil and your not???? How does that work? how are all the non evil people civilians and all the evil people government employees? Never mind the fucking fact that we elect them into office. So either every politician is evil OR our government is not evil. Just for you to even believe the shit you believe would make our entire government evil.
Here is were your lack of comprehension comes in. The WHOLE government isn't in some giant conspiracy against the "civilians". It is a small select group in a position of power. If the top ten people from a presidential cabinet, the heads of the intelligence agencies and a few select other agencies get together in an attemt to control a democratic country, it can be done easily. You obviously don't know your history. take a look at Germany from 1933-1945. Look at Rome up to and following the fall of democracy. Look at communist China or the USSR during Stalin's rule. The most patriotic thing you can do is question your government. It is what this country is founded on and what the founding fathers insisted every true american due daily. To not due so would be living in despotism. And for at least the last two presidential elections the US people have not been able to guantee free and fair elections due to election fraud. Diebold one of the major suppliers of E-voing machines has purposly left gapping backdoors open in their supposed "secure" systems and has refused to implement a paper trail. Contrast their e-voting machine track record and performance to their bank ATM machines which have rock solid security, never had any cases of major fraud/back doors/security holes and have without fail always been able to give paper receipts.
Just for your info Isreal is perfectly justified in doing what they are doing.
Israel using WMDs against Lebonese civilians
There is nothing remotely right about what Israel is doing.
Really the we should be able to bomb the fuck out of Iran then because Iran funds Hammas and Hezbollah right? You wouldnt mind the US bombing Iran now would you? Ofcourse you would because you hate america and america will never be in the right in your mind because your pretty much brainwashed.
Hamas and Hezbollah was started by the Mossad. Just as the IRA was started and funded by MI5 and MI6 and the Taliban was was started/funded by the ISI and CIA. And al queda was started and funded by the CIA. Iran is not the model state but there is NO justification for any US/Isreal aggression. Iran has a right under the Nuclear anti-proliferation treaty to use nuclear technology to produce power. Isreal has never signed the NNPT and created their nuclear program illegally. Ditto with Pakistan and India.
oh yea so how the fuck is Israel the oppressor?
Israel has yet to respect the 1967 borders. they have continually encroached/invaded [SIZE=-1]Palestine since it was created. The palestinians just want the original 1967 borders they have never been able to enjoy. The Israeli soldiers who were "captured" were done so while
THEY WERE ON THE LEBANONESE SIDE OF THE BORDER!
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And your trying to tell me that the NY Times is a controlled media but then they leaked that fucking government program out about a month ago???? yea some controll.
They're owned by the Carlye Group. And you obviously don't fully understand propaganda or how it is used in a modern society. If you are refering to the current series of articles on the ILLEGAL wiretapping, those were used to plant the fear of being recorded for talking openly with your fellow americans about the eggregious criminality of the current administration. The government has been wiretapping the US citizens since the early '80's. And although major media is "controlled" that doesn't mean the CIA/other government agents directly control 100% of every piece that goes out. There are quite a few patriots working at these media outlets that are able to get stories slipped past every now and then. But that being said the CIA has had "assets" installed in every major newspaper, TV and radio station for the better part of 50 years.
Google CIA operation
mockingbird if you can't believe it.
Yea ok this is your truth
The government wants to kill civilians
The government crashed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.
The government invaded Iraq for oil
The government is dumping poison on Iraqi citizens
The world is controlled by a group of people called the skull n bones or the illuminati in a little room in boston where they drink blood out of Geronimo's skull.
Terrorists are just a distraction so people dont find out about what the government is really doing?
There is a ton of
evidence (oh and the fact that the US OPENLY admits using DU munitions since 1991 in IRAQ and all other conflicts). I have posted links to the many articles in several of my other posts. Since DU has a half-life of 4.5 BILLION years yes the US has turned the whole Middle East/Central Asia region into a toxic wasteland FOR LIFE. BTW scientists currently estimate the age of the EArth to be 4.5 Billion years.
And again this shows either: 1) your complete ignorance of history and specifically the history of elite leaders and how they attain and keep their reign on power, or 2) you cannot fathom the government doing anything wrong against its own people or 3) you know its true in your heart but cannot come to gribs to accept the facts in front of your eyes
One last thing, the elite of the world have controlled/attempted to control all information for most of human history especially in the last 5,000 years. knowledge of mathmatics used to be reserved for elite scholars. Ditto with every other advanced knowledge. Teaching or speaking of this information to peasants or serfs was strickly forbidden and would be a reason for death. The elite have less of a ability to control all information but still assert a lot of control. Examples of this can be found by looking at the US public school curriculum from the last 100 years and comparing a "Ivy League" education from schools like Princeton or Oxford with your local community college or even average university.