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If it was that important to keep the leak from spreading, the people would have been killed, believe that. They would end up missing for a year and then be found in some fish netting in a river 10 miles downstream from their house.

All media is controlled because all of the sources they use for government information and action come straight from the government, they don't want objective opinions, THEY WANT PAY CHECKS.

And Funk, I wouldn't worry about him replying, I've directed at least 3-4 things at him and he hasn't said shit and I'm not suprised.
 
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swoop187 said:
And your trying to tell me that the NY Times is a controlled media but then they leaked that fucking government program out about a month ago???? yea some controll.

Good greif.... this shits insane. Our internet is NOT controlled we can go to ANY site we want to get our news. We have fucking people right now in Israel and Lebanon reporting on this shit and your trying to tell me its controlled but yet the NY Times is leaking secret government programs through the Media?????
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The NY TImes has leaked a few things here and there yes...but nothing gets out unless they want it to...

And youre right...the internet is the ONE uncontrolled media source lefts (besides freelance newspaper)...thats what im trying to tell you....i can post a bunch of links for you to check out that is PURELY internet....

heres a few to start from...

www.infowars.com

www.prisonplanet.net

Alex Jones has done ALOT of field work....give him a chance...

Also....chec out ANYTHING from Michael Ruppert...hs is a former LAPD Narcotics Division agent....and exposed the CIA's involvment in the drug trafficking of cocaine from Columbia and other S.American drug coalitions...he actually has DOCUMENTATION from our goverment branches....

Start there...and see where it takes you...
 
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FunK-3-FivE said:
Are you seriously that retarded? I've posted it more than once but you keep ignoring it.

1. Scroll to the top of this little page right here (you can use the arrows to the right of the window of this browser, it might be easier for you)

2. Read the first post (the ENTIRE post please, I know it can be hard to focus on something for that long, but just hang in there ;))

3. Reply to the post (the reply button is at the lower right hand corner of the post, but it can be tricky because it says "quote" instead of reply).

Thank you.
How the fuck do you invade a country when you are given permission to enter?

Explane?
 
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swoop, if you're going to ignore everything I (and others) wrote besides one sentence then I'm through with you. It tells me you're not serious about debating this issue and to be honest it's a bit disprestful, considering I took the time to reply to you.
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Becuase its comforting to know young people are seeing the truth...keep it up...the world needs more folks like yourself....

Keep spreading the word...itsthe only chance we have....
The truth??????

Yea ok this is your truth

The government wants to kill civilians

The government crashed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.

The government invaded Iraq for oil

The government is dumping poison on Iraqi citizens

The world is controlled by a group of people called the skull n bones or the illuminati in a little room in boston where they drink blood out of Geronimo's skull.

Terrorists are just a distraction so people dont find out about what the government is really doing?

Did i miss anything?

Secret meetings with space aliens? government implanted mind controll chips?
 
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swoop187 said:
The truth??????

Yea ok this is your truth
Lets see...

The government wants to kill civilians
No so muxh WANT as they WILL kill civilians if they have to....to get to their ultimate golas and agendas...

The government crashed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.
Yes...and there is PLENTY of evidence to support this...unfortunetly for the US government...this was somewhat of a SLOPPY job of a cover-up...theres evidence dancing all OVER the place about the faultiness of it...want proof?

Here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&q=michael+ruppert&hl=en-GB

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4834790699362957259&q=michael+ruppert&hl=en-GB

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3401925678922201999&q=michael+ruppert&hl=en-GB

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change&hl=en-GB

The government invaded Iraq for oil
Ohman....you really DO know whats up?Were you just fuckin with us?

American and British oil companies are making money hand over fists right now...they even have private riggers on tape SAYING this...its quite sickening..


The government is dumping poison on Iraqi citizens
Hey...they did it to Japan...why not Iraq?

The world is controlled by a group of people called the skull n bones or the illuminati in a little room in boston where they drink blood out of Geronimo's skull.
Something of that nature...

I prefer to think its actually run by bankers and corporations...its been documented throughout the years...the richest people in the world...arent some prince from Saudi Arabia OR Bill Gates...but theyd llike for us to think that wouldnt they?

Terrorists are just a distraction so people dont find out about what the government is really doing?
Close...Osama bin Laden DENOUNCED the 9/11 attacks the VERY NEXT DAY...why would a man...SO bent on BRAGGING aobut his PRIOR terror attacks on the WTC,US embassys AND a US naval ship...all of a sudden say he DIDNT do this???Even though the US SWEARS he orchestrated it????Think about it brotha...something aint right....

Did i miss anything?
Alot.JFK assasination...done by the CIA...Pearl Harbor...orchestrated by OUR government...The Bay of Pigs...you guess it...US...

They tried to pin SOMETHING on Castro...but never could...

Secret meetings with space aliens? government implanted mind controll chips?
Well...they have already invented a chip that is the size of a grain of rice...im sure youve read about it...they wanted to implant them in immigrants...but they are thinking of expanding that idea to just ANYONE....

Aliens exsist...youd be stupid to thihnk we are the only things living in a galaxy that is a gazzillion YEARS big.....cmon now!!!
 
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swoop187 said:
How the fuck do you invade a country when you are given permission to enter?

Explane?
Are you trying to be funny?

Here's the excerpt that disproves what you are stating...

"The officially-stated purpose of the invasion was to target al-Qaeda members, and to punish the Taliban government in Afghanistan which had provided support and haven to al-Qaeda."

Now heres the link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Afghanistan

Stop being a dumbfuck and read, then reply to THE POST, you're wasting my time. I'm not going to keep replying to you if you...

1. Won't read or reply to my posts and information I provide to you.

2. Persist to state things that you YOURSELF have made up, without checking or providing any source. There's no way that you are getting this information from ANY media source. Because it is flat out false, and no source (conservative or liberal) has stated what you are stating.

3. Flat out ignore facts and information I present that disprove what you have stated.

I've proved my point. And you have been discredited, and no argument you provide can be taken seriously.

GOODBYE.
 

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While I am an advocate of free speech, I am openly questioning swoops motives and reason for partaking in threads in the G.O.M forum. Swoop has NEVER contributed anything substantial or valid to ANY thread in the G.O.M, and if you don't believe me, just look at this thread for proof or refer to the reperations thread I started.

Swoop, why are you here?
 
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Damn I go to work and look what happens!

swoop187 said:
What kind of propaganda do you read? We invaded Iraq and thats it, thats all. So i guess George Bush would have to invade 6 more countries in less then too years to meet your propaganda quota.
Did you bother to read the full article? I didn't just pull that quote out my ass or make it up for my own amusement. Former NATO head General Wesley Clark made that statement in his book about the time pre 9/11 and after leading up to Iraq. Now he has been less than fully truthfull regarding his time in NATO and the full events leading to Iraq but this isn't one of those times.

I refuse to willingly accept my own enslavement. It sounds like you have already willingly slipped on the shackles and choose to wear them proudly.

We didnt invade Afghanistan. We were allowed into Afghanistan by the government.
US troops were in Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan 6 months BEFORE 9/11 happened. There was already a plan to invade and take control of the middle east/central asia on day 1 for the Bush administration. The current administration was planning to go into Iraq since 1997. Venezuela and S. America are next if the US succeeds in its current plan in the Arab states.

You think our government is EVIL. How the fuck are they evil and your not???? How does that work? how are all the non evil people civilians and all the evil people government employees? Never mind the fucking fact that we elect them into office. So either every politician is evil OR our government is not evil. Just for you to even believe the shit you believe would make our entire government evil.
Here is were your lack of comprehension comes in. The WHOLE government isn't in some giant conspiracy against the "civilians". It is a small select group in a position of power. If the top ten people from a presidential cabinet, the heads of the intelligence agencies and a few select other agencies get together in an attemt to control a democratic country, it can be done easily. You obviously don't know your history. take a look at Germany from 1933-1945. Look at Rome up to and following the fall of democracy. Look at communist China or the USSR during Stalin's rule. The most patriotic thing you can do is question your government. It is what this country is founded on and what the founding fathers insisted every true american due daily. To not due so would be living in despotism. And for at least the last two presidential elections the US people have not been able to guantee free and fair elections due to election fraud. Diebold one of the major suppliers of E-voing machines has purposly left gapping backdoors open in their supposed "secure" systems and has refused to implement a paper trail. Contrast their e-voting machine track record and performance to their bank ATM machines which have rock solid security, never had any cases of major fraud/back doors/security holes and have without fail always been able to give paper receipts.

Just for your info Isreal is perfectly justified in doing what they are doing.
Israel using WMDs against Lebonese civilians
There is nothing remotely right about what Israel is doing.

Really the we should be able to bomb the fuck out of Iran then because Iran funds Hammas and Hezbollah right? You wouldnt mind the US bombing Iran now would you? Ofcourse you would because you hate america and america will never be in the right in your mind because your pretty much brainwashed.
Hamas and Hezbollah was started by the Mossad. Just as the IRA was started and funded by MI5 and MI6 and the Taliban was was started/funded by the ISI and CIA. And al queda was started and funded by the CIA. Iran is not the model state but there is NO justification for any US/Isreal aggression. Iran has a right under the Nuclear anti-proliferation treaty to use nuclear technology to produce power. Isreal has never signed the NNPT and created their nuclear program illegally. Ditto with Pakistan and India.

oh yea so how the fuck is Israel the oppressor?
Israel has yet to respect the 1967 borders. they have continually encroached/invaded [SIZE=-1]Palestine since it was created. The palestinians just want the original 1967 borders they have never been able to enjoy. The Israeli soldiers who were "captured" were done so while THEY WERE ON THE LEBANONESE SIDE OF THE BORDER!

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And your trying to tell me that the NY Times is a controlled media but then they leaked that fucking government program out about a month ago???? yea some controll.
They're owned by the Carlye Group. And you obviously don't fully understand propaganda or how it is used in a modern society. If you are refering to the current series of articles on the ILLEGAL wiretapping, those were used to plant the fear of being recorded for talking openly with your fellow americans about the eggregious criminality of the current administration. The government has been wiretapping the US citizens since the early '80's. And although major media is "controlled" that doesn't mean the CIA/other government agents directly control 100% of every piece that goes out. There are quite a few patriots working at these media outlets that are able to get stories slipped past every now and then. But that being said the CIA has had "assets" installed in every major newspaper, TV and radio station for the better part of 50 years. Google CIA operation mockingbird if you can't believe it.

Yea ok this is your truth

The government wants to kill civilians

The government crashed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon.

The government invaded Iraq for oil

The government is dumping poison on Iraqi citizens

The world is controlled by a group of people called the skull n bones or the illuminati in a little room in boston where they drink blood out of Geronimo's skull.

Terrorists are just a distraction so people dont find out about what the government is really doing?
There is a ton of evidence (oh and the fact that the US OPENLY admits using DU munitions since 1991 in IRAQ and all other conflicts). I have posted links to the many articles in several of my other posts. Since DU has a half-life of 4.5 BILLION years yes the US has turned the whole Middle East/Central Asia region into a toxic wasteland FOR LIFE. BTW scientists currently estimate the age of the EArth to be 4.5 Billion years.

And again this shows either: 1) your complete ignorance of history and specifically the history of elite leaders and how they attain and keep their reign on power, or 2) you cannot fathom the government doing anything wrong against its own people or 3) you know its true in your heart but cannot come to gribs to accept the facts in front of your eyes

One last thing, the elite of the world have controlled/attempted to control all information for most of human history especially in the last 5,000 years. knowledge of mathmatics used to be reserved for elite scholars. Ditto with every other advanced knowledge. Teaching or speaking of this information to peasants or serfs was strickly forbidden and would be a reason for death. The elite have less of a ability to control all information but still assert a lot of control. Examples of this can be found by looking at the US public school curriculum from the last 100 years and comparing a "Ivy League" education from schools like Princeton or Oxford with your local community college or even average university.
 
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Just to throw this out there, it's been revealed that the war with Lebanon was planned for at least a year (no big suprise of course) and shows that this has nothing to do with "kidnapped" soldiers.

By Juan Cole
Republished from Information Clearing House

The Bush Administration's Grand Strategy and the Birth Pangs of Terror

Israeli war planes hit the cities of Sidon, south Beirut and Baalbak on Saturday and Israeli ground troops fought a hard battle to take over the village of Maroun al-Ras, said to be a Hizbullah rocket-launching site. The Israeli bombing of Sidon hit a religious complex linked to Hizbullah. The BBC reports that ‘The UN’s Jan Egeland said half a million people needed assistance – and the number was likely to increase. One-third of the recent Lebanese casualties, he said, appeared to be children. ’

Matthew Kalman reveals that Israel’s wideranging assault on Lebanon has been planned in a general way for years, and a specific plan has been in the works for over a year. The “Three Week War” was shown to Washington think tanks and officials last year on powerpoint by a senior Israeli army officer:

“More than a year ago, a senior Israeli army officer began giving PowerPoint presentations, on an off-the-record basis, to U.S. and other diplomats, journalists and think tanks, setting out the plan for the current operation in revealing detail….​

[end excerpt]
Click here to read the rest of the article
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
I prefer to think its actually run by bankers and corporations...its been documented throughout the years...the richest people in the world...arent some prince from Saudi Arabia OR Bill Gates...but theyd llike for us to think that wouldnt they?
Do you have any more info/sources on this? I don’t mean that sarcastically.
 
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Mr. Nice Guy said:
Do you have any more info/sources on this? I don’t mean that sarcastically.
Theres been theories thrown out there about who owns what and who actually has all the money....i just find it hard to believe someone Like Bill Gates is the richest or 2nd richest man in the world...especially with all the curruption in the government itself...

Dont you think the US would flip out if they found out a Oil reserve company owned by 3 men whom also have their lil sticky fingers in Media,US defense AND chemicals?I think smart enough Americans would catch to that...

I think companies like the Carlyle group only put out how much they profit a year($40 billion)...but dont talk about all the other shit they have their hands in...who knows how much they really bring a year and put out there for god knows what reasons...

Just remember this...money DOES rule the world...money breeds greed for more power to control more ways of getting more money...

Ive gotten sources from various places...alot from videos ive watched to articles that are related to those videos...id have to dig them up for you...but for now i need to go to bed...but i have all day tomorrow...
 
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Oh Coy!Ocerto said:
Theres been theories thrown out there about who owns what and who actually has all the money....i just find it hard to believe someone Like Bill Gates is the richest or 2nd richest man in the world...
Bill Gates/Warren Buffet/et al are are worth nowhere near the amount of the Rothchilds or Rockefellers. The Rothchild family is the richest in the world. They are worth around 100 TRILLION. The Rockefellers are worth around 50-75 trillion. The Rothchilds invented fractional lending (what all modern banks use to do business) and are one of the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank and Bank of England.
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws"
- Meyer Rothschild
Mr. Nice Guy said:
Do you have any more info/sources on this?
Here's some federal reserve/central bank video links I posted in another thread.

Federal Reserve/Economy/Corporations
Monopoly Men Torrent Google Video
The Money Masters Torrent Google Video Part 1 Part 2
Capitalist Conpiracy YouSendIt (updated link, get while its hot)
America From Fredom to Facism (Just the extended trailer) Google Video
The Corporation Torrent