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king of the O said:
Thats y i called u compacent. u talking about racism and oppression of the past for being the excuse of why niggaz dont wanna be shit sounds pretty complacent to me bruh. all you've done is just give excuse from the start from racisom, to oppression, to institionalized racsim. racism is a reality and it aint goin nowhere so yeah im complacent about that and i been got over it. but those racists pricks still got to follow the rules of the law so they cant stop me from gettin up, startin a business, doin contracts, or doin whatever that a make me stay outta of the laws way. shit im not gonna waste my time to make a cd talkin about nonsense, so i get radio spins, then get make a music video to portray that all i can be in life is a sambo
How old are you?
 
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Miguel Foreals said:
get the fuck outta here.. i hope u aint black, if so you are a house nigger at its FINEST. god put us in slavery? yall still believin in that nigga? the only reason u believe in your "god" is cuz the white muthafuckas that brought us over here GAVE us that shit to BEHAVE. we would be better off in africa? hella muthafuckin yea! u think all the bullshit that africa is dealing with now is NATURAL? do some research, learn your fuckin history. Black people were LITERALLY fucking GODS to these recessive muthafuckas.

this shit is too deep for you brainwashed minds to even comprehend so i aint even gonna go any deeper because this is BART. i would be wasting my time tryna break this shit down to u blind muthafuckas

damn this shit is sad and @ SYDAL isnt it weird how EVERY SINGLE PERSON or Group that has TRIED to lift up our black people and start something Positive gets KILLED?

The panthers= dead or in jail= no leadership for the next generation= gangs=drugs=greed=division.

we are ALL still slaves til this day. realize that shit next time u punch in that clock and pay your taxes.

even though sound like a igornant ass nigga imma respond cause i love conersation! my backround is irrelevant whether im black chinese whatever.
first blacks here dont know shit about where they came from. we dont know shit about africa. so just because u do some research, or u take some classes or watch a documentary dont mean u know a damn thing about the past. IM 100% WEST AFRICAN, AND I KNOW MY ORAL HISTORY DATING BACK MORE THEN 500 YEARS!!!!!so i can lace any wanna yall on the why blacks act the reason way they do, and its a very complicated thesis. But some of u dumb fucks like MIGUEL over here probably would not except it, because your brain is warped with too much bull shit, and you have no reason. BUt anyways if u new your history, blacks did believe in God before the white man came, and i dont have too explain that because yeah I know and its a 1000% fact.
 
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king of the O said:
even though sound like a igornant ass nigga imma respond cause i love conersation! my backround is irrelevant whether im black chinese whatever.
first blacks here dont know shit about where they came from. we dont know shit about africa. so just because u do some research, or u take some classes or watch a documentary dont mean u know a damn thing about the past. IM 100% WEST AFRICAN, AND I KNOW MY ORAL HISTORY DATING BACK MORE THEN 500 YEARS!!!!!so i can lace any wanna yall on the why blacks act the reason way they do, and its a very complicated thesis. But some of u dumb fucks like MIGUEL over here probably would not except it, because your brain is warped with too much bull shit, and you have no reason. BUt anyways if u new your history, blacks did believe in God before the white man came, and i dont have too explain that because yeah I know and its a 1000% fact.
Ok it all makes sense now, you one of them disillusion African mothafuckas who comes here and looks down on black Americans and blame Black Americans for all their problems. You can say you're african by continent relation but you're nothing more than a White man worshiping coon. Believing in God and Christianity are two different things. Just by how you type you can tell you're ignorant as fuck. Go tap dance for your master.
 
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Doc Truth said:
Ok it all makes sense now, you one of them disillusion African mothafuckas who comes here and looks down on black Americans and blame Black Americans for all their problems. You can say you're african by continent relation but you're nothing more than a White man worshiping coon. Believing in God and Christianity are two different things. Just by how you type you can tell you're ignorant as fuck. Go tap dance for your master.
I dont look down on all black americans, just the ingnorant ones like u. i mean the shit is real sad.
"TAP DANCE FOR MY MASTER" LOL!!!!! that shit is real funny because yall are tap dancin for massa 24 hours a day on mtv jamz and another 24 hours a day on BET, so what is it? The shit is sad man, and the way yall brains are so fucking warped, niggaz try to tell yall the truth and u get mad. Yes whites are the souce of black americans problems, but the lil kid growing up in the projects is not getting influence from the white man to fuck his life off, he's gettin it from his parents and siblings and peers. and his parents and older sibilings dont have enough fucking reason in their damn head to say this shit is bad influence, but they still do it. and like i said if u dont know how blacks was living before slavery and all u have is the concept of GODS and KINGS, all i can say is wow!
 
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damn this shit is sad and @ SYDAL isnt it weird how EVERY SINGLE PERSON or Group that has TRIED to lift up our black people and start something Positive gets KILLED? The panthers= dead or in jail= no leadership for the next generation= gangs=drugs=greed=division.[/QUOTE said:
WOW!!! Ok we have no control if the government puts a hit out on martin luther king or if there was a shoot-out with the panthers and the cops. More MLK's and Malcom x's should have kept popping up after that, until they shoot us all. But if the WHITE CIA has the power to infiltrate a BLACK PANTHER group, and pay cats off leading to the demise of their infilstructure, then that shows the Fucking characters of the niggaz that was in the orginization.
 
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king of the O said:
I dont look down on all black americans, just the ingnorant ones like u. i mean the shit is real sad.
"TAP DANCE FOR MY MASTER" LOL!!!!! that shit is real funny because yall are tap dancin for massa 24 hours a day on mtv jamz and another 24 hours a day on BET, so what is it? The shit is sad man, and the way yall brains are so fucking warped, niggaz try to tell yall the truth and u get mad. Yes whites are the souce of black americans problems, but the lil kid growing up in the projects is not getting influence from the white man to fuck his life off, he's gettin it from his parents and siblings and peers. and his parents and older sibilings dont have enough fucking reason in their damn head to say this shit is bad influence, but they still do it. and like i said if u dont know how blacks was living before slavery and all u have is the concept of GODS and KINGS, all i can say is wow!
You said Slavery was an act of GOD. That is why you are a coon. And you say I'm ignorant. That is the same excuse the Klan uses.
 
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king of the O said:
WOW!!! Ok we have no control if the government puts a hit out on martin luther king or if there was a shoot-out with the panthers and the cops. More MLK's and Malcom x's should have kept popping up after that, until they shoot us all. But if the WHITE CIA has the power to infiltrate a BLACK PANTHER group, and pay cats off leading to the demise of their infilstructure, then that shows the Fucking characters of the niggaz that was in the orginization.
and what is your POINT? im not gonna put any words in your mouth, so you let ME know. what is your POINT? what are u trying to conclude about black people? we're just too weak to over come? all we're good for is getting jiggy with it and creating trends for the rest of america to follow? what is it? and what makes you so satisfied with that?
 
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If im a coon, then im a coon bruh buh!

We can over come anything we just have keep it true to every single black person cause we all in the same shit hole. im not gon hate because i dont know him or because he from the otherside of town mentalty has to go.

My point is for every black to look and anaylze the situation. Am i going to get jiggy with it and make a trend that i know my own people are going to soak up in an instant oatmeal minute and evidently destroy them, just so i can make a few bucks, or am i going to try to get us out the shit hole. I aint satisfied with nothing of my situation. Looking at all the governments that been established in africa, and the fall of the panthers man us blacks have a strong self, problem where we only want whats better for self not the greater good.
 
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I'm assuming those who rep Oakland are already aware of its rich heritage... history... It's transformation from a mostly white middle class town to wut it is today, but for those not knowin'....

J:M said:
1. Slavery had a huge impact on the socio-economic path of African-Americans.
...as well as a majority of the policies that have taken place after slavery...


B-San said:
After slavery, it was sharecropping... segregation... and - Red Line Districting

Red line districting took place at the end of WWII... In addition to the WASPs (White Anglo Saxon Protestants), the banks gave mortgages to the Irish and Italian GI's so they could move from the inner-cities to the burbs (basically they got let in to the white club)... that is when the vacuum in the inner cities was filled by blacks... once the banks were running low on WASP and Catholic clientele, they began allowing a few black GI's to receive mortgages..

Redline districting basically stated that having blacks in the neighborhood would lower the property values of surrounding houses... white flight ensued... the banks designed a system to keep blac folks in debt/poor by refusing to approve businesses loans...

Lack of business = poverty = increase of crime... as crime went up, the black families that wanted to move out were given bottom dollar for their houses, which in turn were sold to the next black family for as high as possible...

keep everybody in debt and top that off with a dash of dope for added drama...
that is how the hood (CA's top three for example: Compton, Oakland, Richmond) was created...

Once folks finally organized to improve the situation in the form of the Panther's... J Edgar Hoover labled them as the biggest security threat to American and put the hit out... Some of the youngstaz in LA that looked up to the panthers (Raymond Washington, Tookie Williams), found all their role models dead or in prison in a matter of months... out the seemingly hopless situation they emerged as the Crips.... Isn't it ironic that one of the largest Crip sets is named Hoover?

Freeway Ricky Ross, the first major crack kingpin... you think he learned how to rock it up on his own? Nah he had the Nicaraguan plug... and they were using the money made off him to fund a rebellion against their communist government... the CIA knew all of this and were cool with it cuz it killed 2 birds wit one stone: the black population and 'commies'...


Oh btw it was around this time the George Bush was runnin' the CIA....


Oh, it's also ironic that the guy who 1st broke the story that connected the CIA to the Crack epidemic got blackballed from the press industry... a few years later, right when he hit obscurity, was found dead in his home.. an apparent suicide...


Many people have given their lives in the fight for justice and equality... let us not dishonor their sacrafices by acting like history does not affect the future

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#93
Miguel Foreals said:
damn this shit is sad and @ SYDAL isnt it weird how EVERY SINGLE PERSON or Group that has TRIED to lift up our black people and start something Positive gets KILLED?

The panthers= dead or in jail= no leadership for the next generation= gangs=drugs=greed=division.

we are ALL still slaves til this day. realize that shit next time u punch in that clock and pay your taxes.
Yes, it is sad...and it's not a coincidence, I know this. At the same time, those people that DIED, were willing to do so while delivering a message. They got their death threats, but they believed so strongly in what they were doing, that it didn't stop them from chasing the goal.

When a group is as militant as the Panthers, the government shits its pants. What we need, is a bunch of educated people willing to do something. 2Pac, a RAPPER, was a dangerous man in America because he carried a torch and he did so, not giving a fuck about the possible consequences. America needs people like THAT stepping up to the plate.

And I couldn't agree with you more on the direction rap music has taken...it is what kids look up to, and I'm trying to change shit up a bit...but I can't do it alone. Rap and Hip Hop were built on a movement, and people forgot that.
 
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king of the O said:
But stand up and do what? the problem we have is very difficult becauseit is with in the ghettos and communities. u have to change the core minde set of individuals. thats almost impossible when they gettin brainwashed everyday by bet, talkin bout get money which seems to be the new underline theme of every rap song.
Stand up, hit the schools, speak to the younger cats, uplift the communities by showing them a better way. Start a MOVEMENT that will get talk shows booking you...news agencies wanting to talk to you...organize rallies, protests, etc. It's hard work, and it's not going to be done by one person...but if you rally the troops, words and messages spread like wildfire.
 
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Doc Truth said:
Umm no, everybody CAN'T rise out of it "If they put their mind to it". If you spent just one day in the hood you'd realize that.
I've spent a lot more than ONE DAY in the hood, and I've found cats in the hood that agree with me. Granted, they aren't youngsters, but they agree.

Take a look at every person that grew up in a poverty stricken area, that made something of themselves...and tell me people can't rise out of it if they want to. That's ignorant, and that kind of mentality gets people NOWHERE!
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
And yes, Sydal is an idiot, race DOES matter. It seems like every wigger on the Sicc always wants to pull out that colorblind card because they feel less valued or important in hip-hop when race has meaning.
Damn, you really don't know shit about me, do you? Wigger? Far from it, bro. I don't act like I'm black, I don't think I'm black. Because I rap, have a deep voice and a slight accent, people are so quick to say WIGGER. If you spent so much as an hour in the same spot with me, you would never think that.

About me being an "IDIOT". Ok, you're right, race does matter. No white people are poor, no Asians...just blacks and hispanics. READ MY WORDS! I said, RACE DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO POVERTY! POVERTY IS COLOR BLIND. I'm not color blind, I see everybody for what they are...but I treat 'em based on how they act, not what ethnicity they are. If POVERTY was the same way, all the ignorant assholes would be poor, and all the people who were decent humans would have money.

Y'all are so quick to flip my words around to benefit an argument. I didn't say RACE doesn't matter, PERIOD...I said when it comes to being poor, there are no color lines. Whites are poor, black people, hispanics, asians, Pacific Islanders...EVERYBODY has broke people. I'd like to see you tell a BOSNIAN that race matters when it comes to Poverty!
 
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king of the O said:
Racism is always going to exist. nothing can stop that. but what is preventing people of colors from getting a good job? If we have the same qualifications as the whiteman and cant get the job, what prevents us from starting our own business, where it is easy to get a permit, and we have the largest consumer base where we can make money off of. US people of color. too many excuses man, cats just need to get up and make shit happen instead saying it cant happen because something exists. this is america where the only thing that can hold u back is if u break the law period.
Explain that to the people of color constantly denied loans to start up those business ideas that they might want to put in action. Explain to 4.0 students at inner city schools like Richmond High who when applying to major Univ. get shot down because their 4.0 counts as a 3.5 because of a lack of AP classes while student in Piedmont have weighted 4.0 that end up as 4.5 gpa's because of the classes offered at their school. I'm not saying that your point isn't on point, but I'm saying that some of the shit is set up and for some reason people of color are not recieving equal educational opps. But this sort of shit isn't new in this country or the world for that matter. Education at Ivy Leauge's are more than just degrees-- it is the chance to network with the ones who make the money not ern pay checks.
 
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This has turned out to be a good thread...I wish some of the "rappers" on here that do a billion post on self promotion would join in on the conversation and show they can add more to b.a.r.t. then just spam.
 
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Sydal said:
I've spent a lot more than ONE DAY in the hood, and I've found cats in the hood that agree with me. Granted, they aren't youngsters, but they agree.

Take a look at every person that grew up in a poverty stricken area, that made something of themselves...and tell me people can't rise out of it if they want to. That's ignorant, and that kind of mentality gets people NOWHERE!
So because a few can make it, it means everybody can make it? Get real, you're living in some sort of fantasy land. Thinking everybody can just rise up and be happy if they try. You look at surface issues and not the depth of peoples personal struggles.
 

J:M

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Doc Truth said:
So because a few can make it, it means everybody can make it? Get real, you're living in some sort of fantasy land. Thinking everybody can just rise up and be happy if they try. You look at surface issues and not the depth of peoples personal struggles.
IMO, If few can make it, EVERYONE needs to TRY their damn best to get out of their "hoods". Just proof that it can be done, even though the odds are definitely stacked against them. Strive to get out, if you fail, shoot, you back where you started, nothing lost.