Best Sureño rappers

[REdRUM]

Do illegals really use up YOUR tax dollars? Seriously? Or do you also use their tax dollars, that they pump into the system? Or do you believe that they really don't pay any taxes, live strictly on welfare, and take everything you've ''earned''...

What ''taxes'' do you pay? Property taxes? Or do you own property? I have a friend who's been here 40 years (illegally), yet owns 2 businesses, and last year paid 1.3 million dollars in taxes on his businesses. He can't 'retire' and recieve social security...so where's that money going? To help pay for that high school you're in. He's never committed a crime (besides being here illegally lol), runs a non-profit charitable foundation, and donates time and money (lots of it) to his community. But I'm sure he's taking something away from you.

Don't be misinformed. Mexicans are NOT the majority that are in "YOUR" welfare system, taking things away from "YOU".

 

[MooreBlock530]

havnt you gotten my point that im not talking about people that work how ever they work.....ethier fake SS or work visas

im STRITCLY talking about the fuck ups.......the ones that are going to end up prision for more then 5-10-50 years

did i even mention welfare fuckface...no.....im talking about the prison system that is rediculos in california

 

[REdRUM]

havnt you gotten my point that im not talking about people that work how ever they work.....ethier fake SS or work visas

im STRITCLY talking about the fuck ups.......the ones that are going to end up prision for more then 5-10-50 years

did i even mention welfare fuckface...no.....im talking about the prison system that is rediculos in california

Not ''welfare'' specifically...but taking ''your'' taxes.

And I asked...DO. YOU. EVEN. PAY. TAXES?

And what ''taxes'' are they ''using''...?




LOL @ ''fuckface''

And LULZ x3 x4 @ "rediculos''...Is that what MY TAX DOLLARS are paying for in your high school?

 

[Tony]

Tony, you're so full of shit. Blacks aren't racist towards Mexicans? Why? Because you say so. Bullshit.

Many, many Mexicans are racist towards blacks, and many, many blacks are ALSO racist towards Mexicans. It goes BOTH WAYS, Tony.

"The majority of Mexicans from southern Cali are racist." How do you know. How many experiences with southern California Mexicans have you had?

Don't listen to a rap song on youtube and believe everything you hear.

ESPECIALLY about Mexicans being racists, but a black could never be.

Blacks have put up with the most racism out of all ethnicities (sp). Whites been hating and slaving blacks for years. You need to learn black history. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed/assasinated because he fought for civil/equal rights for blacks. We had white people throwing rocks at us and calling us "Niggers" out of pure hatred... now you have Mexicans calling us Mayate's. What did Blacks ever do to Mexicans?... Ever heard of Rosa Parks? Segragation? Klu Klux Klan? Black people were lynched just for simply being black. There were restrooms, restuarants, etc... that blacks were not allowed to use. Mexicans have never went through that. Blacks were forced to come to this country and be slaves and call the white man "masta". Ever seen the movie "Roots"? Ever heard of Harrait Tubman? Blacks back in the day had to give up their seats on the bus to a white person. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus where the hot engine was. Did your ancestors have to go through that? Didn't think so....

So you're going to have blacks that are racists against whites for the ways we were treated back in the day. Mexicans have no reason not to like blacks. Black people don't have problems with Mexicans in general. Blacks have problems with the Mexicans who don't like us for whatever reason.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

havnt you gotten my point that im not talking about people that work how ever they work.....ethier fake SS or work visas

im STRITCLY talking about the fuck ups.......the ones that are going to end up prision for more then 5-10-50 years

did i even mention welfare fuckface...no.....im talking about the prison system that is rediculos in california

HOW YOU GONNA MENTION THE PRISON SYSTEM? THAT SHIT WAS WORKED. THERE IS NO REHABILITATION PROGRAMS IN THE PRISONS AND MOST INMATES ARE VIOLATORS WHO GOT THE SHAFT FROM THEIR PO'S. SOME PRISONS DONT EVEN OFFER GED COURSES LET ALONE COLLEGE DEGREES OR ANYTHING ELSE HOW IS THAT CORRECTING ANYTHING. AND WHY? BECAUSE THEY MAKE MONEY OFF THE REVOLVING DOOR.
THREE STRIKES WAS A SET UP. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THREE STRIKES WERE TOTALLY UNAWARE OF WHAT THEY VOTED FOR AND WHEN IT EFFECTED THEM PERSONALLY IS WHEN THEY REALIZED HOW THEY GOT SUCKERED INTO VOTING A FUCKED UP LAW INTO PLACE.
PETE WILSON GOT THAT LAW IN PLACE AND WHO WERE THE CONTRACTORS THAT BUILT ALL THE PRISONS FOR THE INFLUX OF PRISONERS? PETE WILSONS BUDDIES WERE.
DID YOU KNOW THE CDC'S DOCTORS WERE UNDER FIRE FOR LETTING INMATES DIE UNDER THERE CARE FOR BEING NEGLIGENT?
AND A FEDERAL JUDGE HAD TO DEMAND THEM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
DONT BLAME THE ILLEGALS FOR THAT SHIT BLAME THE BUERACRATS (SP?) WHO SET ALL THIS SHIT UP INSTEAD.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

Blacks have put up with the most racism out of all ethnicities (sp). Whites been hating and slaving blacks for years. You need to learn black history. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed/assasinated because he fought for civil/equal rights for blacks. We had white people throwing rocks at us and calling us "Niggers" out of pure hatred... now you have Mexicans calling us Mayate's. What did Blacks ever do to Mexicans?... Ever heard of Rosa Parks? Segragation? Klu Klux Klan? Black people were lynched just for simply being black. There were restrooms, restuarants, etc... that blacks were not allowed to use. Mexicans have never went through that. Blacks were forced to come to this country and be slaves and call the white man "masta". Ever seen the movie "Roots"? Ever heard of Harrait Tubman? Blacks back in the day had to give up their seats on the bus to a white person. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus where the hot engine was. Did your ancestors have to go through that? Didn't think so....

So you're going to have blacks that are racists against whites for the ways we were treated back in the day. Mexicans have no reason not to like blacks. Black people don't have problems with Mexicans in general. Blacks have problems with the Mexicans who don't like us for whatever reason.

COME ON MAN CALI, ARIZONA, TEXAS, AND NEW MEXICO WERE JACKED FROM MEXICO. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE BRACERO PROGRAM? LOTS OF MEXICAN WORKERS WERE JACKED FOR MONEY AND USED FOR HARD LABOR. YOU EVER HEAR OF THE SANTA ANA FOUR? MEXICANS WHO WERE DEPORTED FOR HAVING COMMUNIST PARTY TIES WITH NO TRIAL OR DUE PROCESS.
AND TO THIS DAY MEXICANS ARE FUCKED WITH, HERE IN OC COPS PULL OVER MEXICANS JUST TO CHECK OUT THERE IMMIGRATION STATUS. BUT INSTEAD I GOT PULLED OVER COUNTLESS TIMES GETTING MY STATUS CHECKED AND MY FATHER AND MOTHER ARE BOTH LEGAL BORN US CITIZENS!!!
SHIT THAT RAID WHERE THEM 600 PEOPLE GOT SWEPT UP, EVEN BLACK FOLKS WAS SAYING THEY WERE GLAD THEM ILLEGALS WERE DEPORTED.
IT GOES BOTH WAYS AND RIGHT NOW MEXICANS ARE STILL BEING TREATED LIKE SHIT.

 

[REdRUM]

Blacks have put up with the most racism out of all ethnicities (sp). Whites been hating and slaving blacks for years. You need to learn black history. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed/assasinated because he fought for civil/equal rights for blacks. We had white people throwing rocks at us and calling us "Niggers" out of pure hatred... now you have Mexicans calling us Mayate's. What did Blacks ever do to Mexicans?... Ever heard of Rosa Parks? Segragation? Klu Klux Klan? Black people were lynched just for simply being black. There were restrooms, restuarants, etc... that blacks were not allowed to use. Mexicans have never went through that. Blacks were forced to come to this country and be slaves and call the white man "masta". Ever seen the movie "Roots"? Ever heard of Harrait Tubman? Blacks back in the day had to give up their seats on the bus to a white person. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus where the hot engine was. Did your ancestors have to go through that? Didn't think so....

99% of that was bullshit that has NOTHING to do with this conversation. I don't give 2 shits about the KKK, slavery, MLK fighting for anything...that is a serious issue, but isn't relevant here. YOU didn't go through ANYTHING, Tony. YOU weren't a slave. YOU weren't marching with Dr. King. YOU weren't called a nigger sent to the back of the bus. LOL @ ''did your ancestors have to go through that?" DID YOURS? Because you are BLACK, Tony, doesn't mean your ancestors were automatically slaves, you moron. I know plenty about BLACK history; I studied it in high school, where we are forced to learn about it. We're not priveledged enough to have our own history documented in American high schools across the country. Again, Tony, being black doesn't mean you're a victim of anything. It means you are black. Don't use past injustices against AFRICANS as a an excuse to hate white people forever, or for hating Mexicans (because Messicans never went through what YOU did, right Tony? lol).

So you're going to have blacks that are racists against whites for the ways we were treated back in the day. Mexicans have no reason not to like blacks. Black people don't have problems with Mexicans in general. Blacks have problems with the Mexicans who don't like us for whatever reason.

So...blacks are allowed to hate Mexicans who don't like you for whatever reason, but Mexicans aren't allowed that same luxery? Mexicans ''have no reason not to like blacks'', huh?

 

[Tony]

@WXS... Well the difference is blacks aren't coming here illegally... the law is the law. Illegal immigrants are being deported because there are rules to follow for entering the country.

As for Cali, Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico being jacked from Mexico. That's messed up but what do blacks have to do with that? We were in our own country in Africa, when we were jacked and taken here to be slaves.

 

[REdRUM]

As for Cali, Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico being jacked from Mexico. That's messed up but what do blacks have to do with that? We were in our own country in Africa, when we were jacked and taken here to be slaves.

The same thing Mexicans have to do with your supposed "ANCESTORS" being forced into slavery.

 

[Tony]

99% of that was bullshit that has NOTHING to do with this conversation. I don't give 2 shits about the KKK, slavery, MLK fighting for anything...that is a serious issue, but isn't relevant here. YOU didn't go through ANYTHING, Tony. YOU weren't a slave. YOU weren't marching with Dr. King. YOU weren't called a nigger sent to the back of the bus. LOL @ ''did your ancestors have to go through that?" DID YOURS? Because you are BLACK, Tony, doesn't mean your ancestors were automatically slaves, you moron. I know plenty about BLACK history; I studied it in high school, where we are forced to learn about it. We're not priveledged enough to have our own history documented in American high schools across the country. Again, Tony, being black doesn't mean you're a victim of anything. It means you are black. Don't use past injustices against AFRICANS as a an excuse to hate white people forever, or for hating Mexicans (because Messicans never went through what YOU did, right Tony? lol).




So...blacks are allowed to hate Mexicans who don't like you for whatever reason, but Mexicans aren't allowed that same luxery? Mexicans ''have no reason not to like blacks'', huh?

You know what, ain't no need for us to converse anymore because you sound like an ignorant person and I am not big on insults and name calling but you gotta take the cake. You're making this into a Blacks vs Mexicans issue. I simply stated reasons as to why some blacks are racists towards white people! But you lost all respect from me when you said you don't give 2 shits about MLK fighting for anything. MLK fought your rights as well you dumbass. He just didn't fight for "blacks"... he was a peacemaker and wanted everyone to get along and for you to come on here and say you don't give 2 shits is just ignorant. You need to be slapped mf. This man marched and had rocks/stones thrown at him while fighting for "our" rights. Do you know what Civil right are? He was a leader in the Civil Rights movement for all citizens...

 

[siccness-user]

can we get back to sureno rap?

 

[REdRUM]

You know what, ain't no need for us to converse anymore because you sound like an ignorant person and I am not big on insults and name calling but you gotta take the cake. You're making this into a Blacks vs Mexicans issue. I simply stated reasons as to why some blacks are racists towards white people! But you lost all respect from me when you said you don't give 2 shits about MLK fighting for anything. MLK fought your rights as well you dumbass. He just didn't fight for "blacks"... he was a peacemaker and wanted everyone to get along and for you to come on here and say you don't give 2 shits is just ignorant. You need to be slapped mf. This man marched and had rocks/stones thrown at him while fighting for "our" rights. Do you know what Civil right are? He was a leader in the Civil Rights movement for all citizens...

Yes, Tony, you are a moron. I said that I don't give a shit about all of that because it has NOTHING to do with this topic. You can try to rile up people by saying I disrespected the man, but the words are right there. And if I need to be slapped, you should do it. LOL

As far as ignorant goes, I probably know more about YOUR OWN HISTORY than you do, TONY. Being black doesn't make you all-knowing in your own culture, so you might want to read up. You gave me examples out of a 10th grade history book; what else? Keep going.

And I never made this into a ''blacks vs Mexicans'' issue; YOU DID. You claimed that Mexicans hate blacks, but blacks could never hate Mexicans. You are the victim. You're discriminated against. Your supposed ancestors were victims, too. Correct so far? Then you try to dispute the fact that maybe, just maybe, a black man might be racist. OH NO! That couldn't be, right.

Like I've said, it goes BOTH WAYS. When you realize that you can make mistakes, too, you'll be a better MAN. I can admit that there are many Mexicans who hate blacks because they're black, and I don't agree with it, but it's the truth. But I cannot belive you would say (and this is the second thread you've said it in) that blacks are NOT racist, especially towards Mexicans, only when they are forced to, because the Mexican did something to them.

 

[Tony]

can we get back to sureno rap?

My bad dog... didn't mean to ruin the thread.

 

[REdRUM]

Subject < race discussion.

 

[siccness-user]

My bad dog... didn't mean to ruin the thread.

you havent ruined thread. i just dont wanna hear how much you hate or love mexicans

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

I never said I wasn't a fan of N2DEEP. Their fucken dope. I'm from SoCal and AIN'T a hater like some of you Northerners. I know and respect good music when I hear it and LSOB is one of them.

You completely missed the point. You listed N2DEEP as a Sureno group...when they are from Vallejo.

:ermm:

 

[[-KoRp$-]559]

Why should they be deported? Because they're Surenos? Why not deport your Norteno buddies? Or why not leave them be? They're not doing shit to you, so why deport them?

You have such a problem with "paisas", in your words, for hating blacks. For what? Their color? Yeah...that's stupid. But what about your ''amigos''...for hating ''scrapas'' for being...''scrapas''...? Hate them both for being morons.

Nice thought process.

Your lost lol, your arguing about his supposed problem with paisas hating blacks? No shit thats stupid lol

Your confusion is creating dumb arguments about something you don't know shit about, you aren't even in Cali.

 

[Ghost Dance]

Blacks have put up with the most racism out of all ethnicities (sp). Whites been hating and slaving blacks for years. You need to learn black history. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed/assasinated because he fought for civil/equal rights for blacks. We had white people throwing rocks at us and calling us "Niggers" out of pure hatred... now you have Mexicans calling us Mayate's. What did Blacks ever do to Mexicans?... Ever heard of Rosa Parks? Segragation? Klu Klux Klan? Black people were lynched just for simply being black. There were restrooms, restuarants, etc... that blacks were not allowed to use. Mexicans have never went through that. Blacks were forced to come to this country and be slaves and call the white man "masta". Ever seen the movie "Roots"? Ever heard of Harrait Tubman? Blacks back in the day had to give up their seats on the bus to a white person. Blacks had to sit in the back of the bus where the hot engine was. Did your ancestors have to go through that? Didn't think so....

So you're going to have blacks that are racists against whites for the ways we were treated back in the day. Mexicans have no reason not to like blacks. Black people don't have problems with Mexicans in general. Blacks have problems with the Mexicans who don't like us for whatever reason.

Im tired of hearin black ppl say this shit.......

No u aint delt with more racism in America then Mexicans. Let me school your retarted ass. You say our ancesto aint been threw what yours has? O.K well our ancestors are Native Americans and if i recall there was Europens that came to this land before blacks were here and raped our women, killed our children, took our men and made the "SLAVES", and took our land. Now even more recently when other Europeans started settling here they did "genocide" on native americans. Using smalls pocks and rifiles to kill off whole tribes and even used the American army to kill our ancestors.Not keeping them as slaves but just killing them off ass a whole race of people. And you wanna bring up lynching? They used to run threw villages and kill babies in basket and would get paid by the American goverment if they brought back hands and heads of American Indians.I could go on and on but to I really have too.

Now you retarted ass may not know about things like the Zoot Suit Riots in L.A or how California and other parts of America used to be mexico before they were stolen by the U.S goverment, and how after that mexican familes that lived in Cali for generation were being "deported"(if thats what you want to call it)out of the "new" America and being seperated from their familes. We still deal with this today in America. My sisters husband that has been in America since he was 2 years old has been deported and takin away from his babies, hes wife, and hes whole family because of the under lined racism in America . Now this is one mexican man out of thousands in America that this has happened too. How many blacks can u say this kind of shit happens to in America today?

I could go on and on about it. Mexicans get pulled over and harrased just as much as blacks do in America, its just as hard to find a job for mexican men as it is blacks, and we live in the same poverty condistion as blacks, so dont try and act like blacks been threw worse shit then mexicans cuz in reality YOU HAVENT BEEN.

 

[REdRUM]

Your lost lol, your arguing about his supposed problem with paisas hating blacks? No shit thats stupid lol

Your confusion is creating dumb arguments about something you don't know shit about, you aren't even in Cali.

Actually, it's a discussion on blacks vs Mexicans, illegal vs. illegal, etc. Your stupid gangs don't have anything to do with it, and that includes your online versions, too.

 

[REdRUM]

Im tired of hearin black ppl say this shit.......

No u aint delt with more racism in America then Mexicans. Let me school your retarted ass. You say our ancesto aint been threw what yours has? O.K well our ancestors are Native Americans and if i recall there was Europens that came to this land before blacks were here and raped our women, killed our children, took our men and made the "SLAVES", and took our land. Now even more recently when other Europeans started settling here they did "genocide" on native americans. Using smalls pocks and rifiles to kill off whole tribes and even used the American army to kill our ancestors.Not keeping them as slaves but just killing them off ass a whole race of people. And you wanna bring up lynching? They used to run threw villages and kill babies in basket and would get paid by the American goverment if they brought back hands and heads of American Indians.I could go on and on but to I really have too.

Now you retarted ass may not know about things like the Zoot Suit Riots in L.A or how California and other parts of America used to be mexico before they were stolen by the U.S goverment, and how after that mexican familes that lived in Cali for generation were being "deported"(if thats what you want to call it)out of the "new" America and being seperated from their familes. We still deal with this today in America. My sisters husband that has been in America since he was 2 years old has been deported and takin away from his babies, hes wife, and hes whole family because of the under lined racism in America . Now this is one mexican man out of thousands in America that this has happened too. How many blacks can u say this kind of shit happens to in America today?

I could go on and on about it. Mexicans get pulled over and harrased just as much as blacks do in America, its just as hard to find a job for mexican men as it is blacks, and we live in the same poverty condistion as blacks, so dont try and act like blacks been threw worse shit then mexicans cuz in reality YOU HAVENT BEEN.

LOL

But it wasn't on TV and in rap songs, so it can't be as bad.

Good post.