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NAMO

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i am a pacifist and i am 100% against war period. i understand both sides of the story and i think it's a fucked up situation. once again you show your prejudice/ignorance by assuming that simply because i'm of jewish descent that i automatically condone war against palestine?
Where did I say you condone war against palestine? where did I say you take a side? I pointed out you have never commented on a thread in regards to israel/palestine. No assumptions were made by me, only you.


i wish everybody could live side by side in peace, and i think it's really tragic that that will probably never happen.
Well if you knew anything about history you would know we as humans have never lived in peace and there has always been conflict sice the cavemen.


good for you. do you want a cookie?
Blowjob out of the question? :D

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i didn't say you were directly responsible for what happened in the past, obviously that's not logical.

what i said, is that you were racist and insensitive. just because you weren't directly responsible for the terrible things in history doesn't mean it's cool for you to be hella racist now. what i have a problem with is your whole mentality: blaming them for being "lazy" and getting so many "handouts" and not living wonderful independent lives now that all that crazy genocide stuff & baby stealing is "all in the past". basically saying that they "should get over it because everything is better now". when it's still so recent and they are still extremely discriminated against.
You have made alot of assumptions in this part of your post. Having an opinion of a situation does not mean you are racist or insensitive and making comments about the subject on a discussion board doesn't either. This is reality, people have differing views.

no, you just have a problem with the aboriginal people because they get so many "handouts".
I have no problem with any Aboriginal living in Australia, what I do have a problem with is ANY race bitching and moaning about how tough life was and how the fucking world owes them shit because of past evils. Inhumane shit has been done to almost every race in history, lands have been conquered, peoples have been wiped out, this is life, in order to move forward you must learn from the past and go in the opposite direction. Be stronger and make ure it never happens again.


uh, yea. i know you weren't responsible for the stolen generation, moron. i'm mad at the fact that you don't acknowledge the severity of the atrocities that occurred as recently as 40 years ago, not to mention the extreme racism they still endure, and instead bitch about how they have it so well off?

after all the shit they went and still go through? like just because they finally get some help their culture can magically get rebuilt and everything is just gonna be fine & dandy?
I acknowledge the severity of every atrocity in history, not just one. All minorities suffer racism here and everywhere. Noone is special. Everyone is equal.

i'd like to see you try walking in their shoes.
I'd like to see you walk in a palestinian childs shoes

so, how many aboriginal people are you friends with? went to school with? work at your job?
We are a multicultral country, there is a fair mix of every race that I went to school with, have worked with and am freinds with.

how many do you see on tv and in magazines? living in good neighborhoods? going to college? working in white collar jobs?
Many on TV, many playing sports, many in jobs, you don't live here so you shouldn't speak on that.

YOU are delusional if you think the "special treatment" they are given has made things right.
Sitting on their asses getting hand outs complaining won't move them forward, they need to WANT to progress, not be contempt with hand outs and cry about it.


slavery, GENOCIDE, rape and destruction of entire cultures and societies is despicable no matter where it occurred! i am not denying that in any form. i also am not complaining about "handouts" or saying "oh that was so long ago why don't they just get over it and be more productive members of society". i think what happened in the past and the foundation this country was built on is extremely fucked up, and i completely understand why they give native americans benefits and the whole reasoning behind affirmative action. i also understand that no matter what they do, it still can't magically make things right.

that's my point. i recognize the atrocities that have occurred throughout history in many countries, including here. i recognize that there is still a great deal of racism and inequality in the world today.

i recognize that many beautiful rich cultures have been destroyed or almost completely lost throughout history… because some other race thought they were inferior, less than human… and it makes me sick!

so, while i realize that you aren't responsible for the past genocidal practices against australian aboriginals, the fact that you seem to have no empathy and are bitter about the "handouts" they get really disgusts me, because it's basically the same attitude that other ignorant racist white people perpetuate & make the rest of us look bad.

once again, fuck you.
Oh did you want me to cry about it 24/7?

 
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If they were to learn from their past they would be trying to kill any balkans, lebos, arabs any further foreigners movin in on their land, and be at war with the white-anglos. Anglo steal aborigine's pie give aboriginie 1/5th of the pie you another 1/5th of the pie, aboriginie say hey this shit aint cool at all, so Anglo give aboriginie some whip cream every once in a while, and then you say the aboriginie is bitching...your eating from his goddamn pie!
 

NAMO

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If they were to learn from their past they would be trying to kill any balkans, lebos, arabs any further foreigners movin in on their land, and be at war with the white-anglos. Anglo steal aborigine's pie give aboriginie 1/5th of the pie you another 1/5th of the pie, aboriginie say hey this shit aint cool at all, so Anglo give aboriginie some whip cream every once in a while, and then you say the aboriginie is bitching...your eating from his goddamn pie!
mmmm pie

 

NAMO

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so from the looks of it outcasted has 5 more days on the sicc til he gets banned this thread backfired on him pretty damn quick
yeah I spend way too much time here anyway, its for the better, but best believe I'm goin' out in a blaze of glory :D
 

emma

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Where did I say you condone war against palestine? where did I say you take a side? I pointed out you have never commented on a thread in regards to israel/palestine. No assumptions were made by me, only you.
you mentioned my heritage with a snotty little attitude as if i'm somehow just as bad as those i'm complaining about.

Well if you knew anything about history you would never we as humans have never lived in peace and there has always been conflict sice the cavemen.
and should we just accept that humans are fucked up and never wish for anything better?

You have made alot of assumptions in this part of your post. Having an opinion of a situation does not mean you are racist or insensitive and making comments about the subject on a discussion board doesn't either. This is reality, people have differing views.
well… in my opinion, your opinion… is racist. i was actually mostly reacting to jake numbers at first, but your comments basically give off the same impression.

I have no problem with any Aboriginal living in Australia, what I do have a problem with is ANY race bitching and moaning about how tough life was and how the fucking world owes them shit because of past evils. Inhumane shit has been done to almost every race in history, lands have been conquered, peoples have been wiped out, this is life, in order to move forward you must learn from the past and go in the opposite direction. Be stronger and make ure it never happens again.
but life IS tough for them, and the "past evils" are really still extremely recent.

learn from the past?? what? as if they were somehow at fault for what happened and could have prevented it?

you are so, so lost.

like i said, i'd like to see you walk in their shoes, cuz you seem to have a serious problem understanding the severity of their struggle.

I acknowledge the severity of every atrocity in history, not just one.
obviously you don't.

All minorities suffer racism here and everywhere. Noone is special. Everyone is equal.
except everybody is not treated as equal. far from it. you're being hella contradictory.

exactly, minorities are still discriminated against and mistreated in many countries, it is horrible and fucked up so why are you over here blabbering about how people should just learn from shit and move on?

I'd like to see you walk in a palestinian childs shoes
what the fuck?? once again i am not the one being racist and lacking empathy here. my heart goes out to any and all suffering people of this world; i'm not the one who needs to feel some compassion here. so what the fuck are you even talking about?

must just be your anti-semitic preconceptions showing through again…

We are a multicultral country, there is a fair mix of every race that I went to school with, have worked with and am freinds with.
yea, okay. so how do your friends feel when you talk shit about them and their "handouts"?

Many on TV, many playing sports, many in jobs, you don't live here so you shouldn'tspeak on that.
many? if you say so…

funny how few i can find info on though…

not to mention the majority of the aboriginal celebrities seem to be mixed, light skinned, with very caucasian features. what about any representation of dark skinned beauty?

why in the history of the world have there only been 2 aboriginal models ever to land the cover of vogue australia? the most current (samantha harris) while beautiful, is half german and very light skinned. now, don't get me wrong… i'm not saying that makes her any less in touch with her culture and i think it's great that somebody is representing aboriginal beauty in the media, but it's pretty fucked up that there still seems to be almost no representation of actual dark skinned and non visibly mixed aboriginal people.

it's not really a shock though, kind of like how almost all the indians in bollywood are hella light (indo-aryan) or how the majority of the latinos in the telenovelas are blonde and blue eyed caucasians (as opposed mestizos, or afro-latinos who make up a huge amount of the population but get almost no representation in the media… that's a whole other rant though.)

the point is, there is a lack of representation of dark skinned people in the media in many countries (including here) because of RACISM! racism is still alive today and the fact that you're so dismissive of it means you're either delusional or just an ass.

i'm not saying australia is the only fucked up country, because in a lot of the world people with dark skin are still treated as inferior, or less attractive. but just because it's so common doesn't make it any less fucked up! i don't know how you can realize and accept that there's still so much racism and obstacles, but at the same time you still expect people to magically get over it and have the same quality of life that you do?

Sitting on their asses getting hand outs complaining won't move them forward, they need to get to WANT to progress, not be contempt with hand outs.
you sound hella racist.

like i said, i'd like to see how well you would progress after all that shit. and it's hella racist that you generalize like that and assume they just want to be lazy and sit on their asses in the first place.

you know what though? this is just getting tedious because obviously you just don't get it.

so fuck it.
 

NAMO

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you mentioned my heritage with a snotty little attitude as if i'm somehow just as bad as those i'm complaining about.

Stop being a fucking princess and getting up tight cause I make jokes about jews.

and should we just accept that humans are fucked up and never wish for anything better?

And what are you doing about it?

well… in my opinion, your opinion… is racist. i was actually mostly reacting to jake numbers at first, but your comments basically give off the same impression.

You are 21, I don't expect you to understand

but life IS tough for them, and the "past evils" are really still extremely recent.

How the fuck would you know YOU DON'T LIVE HERE.

learn from the past?? what? as if they were somehow at fault for what happened and could have prevented it?

Only the strong survive, natural selection.

you are so, so lost.

And you are judgemental and hypocritical.

like i said, i'd like to see you walk in their shoes, cuz you seem to have a serious problem understanding the severity of their struggle.

They have suffered, but others have suffered worse.

obviously you don't.

*rolleyes*

except everybody is not treated as equal. far from it. you're being hella contradictory.

That is not my fucking problem, I treat everyone equally.

exactly, minorities are still discriminated against and mistreated in many countries, it is horrible and fucked up so why are you over here blabbering about how people should just learn from shit and move on?

Yes, my generation and those that migrated before me came from war torn countries where kids would be raped in the street and enemies tortured to death with power tools, heads hacked off and smashed into pieces. Ethnic & blood rivallries from centuries. We deal with our own problems and own racism when we first got here, we got stronger from it all. I'm not complainign and saying we had it worse, there is always someone worse off, but at the end of the day noone gives a fuck about us, only themselves.


what the fuck?? once again i am not the one being racist and lacking empathy here. my heart goes out to any and all suffering people of this world; i'm not the one who needs to feel some compassion here. so what the fuck are you even talking about?

If you knew how hard life was for a Palestinian child, you would apply the same shit you are trying to preach to me to yourself, seeing as it is a Israeli/jewish subject and more close to home for you.

must just be your anti-semitic preconceptions showing through again…

Right I trolled last time I got banned yes I went too far in retaliating, but since then have I said anything anti semetic and can you please post it here.

yea, okay. so how do your friends feel when you talk shit about them and their "handouts"?

I don't associate with bums, regardless of race. I did when I was younger and was a fuckwit myself, but as I got older I got smarter, so did others around me and many have been successful. One good Koori mate is a known boxer that I went to school with and played Rugby League with I still go to his Gym in Redfern now and then, who shares a similar view to me but is more leaning to the other side, others play Rugby League now ect.


many? if you say so…

Cause you know who the fuck I know...right?

funny how few i can find info on though…

not to mention the majority of the aboriginal celebrities seem to be mixed, light skinned, with very caucasian features. what about any representation of dark skinned beauty?

So fucking what, we are all mixed, what does that have to do with it?

why in the history of the world have there only been 2 aboriginal models ever to land the cover of vogue australia? the most current (samantha harris) while beautiful, is half german and very light skinned. now, don't get me wrong… i'm not saying that makes her any less in touch with her culture and i think it's great that somebody is representing aboriginal beauty in the media, but it's pretty fucked up that there still seems to be almost no representation of actual dark skinned and non visibly mixed aboriginal people.

it's not really a shock though, kind of like how almost all the indians in bollywood are hella light (indo-aryan) or how the majority of the latinos in the telenovelas are blonde and blue eyed caucasians (as opposed mestizos, or afro-latinos who make up a huge amount of the population but get almost no representation in the media… that's a whole other rant though.)

the point is, there is a lack of representation of dark skinned people in the media in many countries (including here) because of RACISM! racism is still alive today and the fact that you're so dismissive of it means you're either delusional or just an ass.

The mass media outlets in the world dictate what is beautiful, nothing to do with me..

i'm not saying australia is the only fucked up country, because in a lot of the world people with dark skin are still treated as inferior, or less attractive. but just because it's so common doesn't make it any less fucked up! i don't know how you can realize and accept that there's still so much racism and obstacles, but at the same time you still expect people to magically get over it and have the same quality of life that you do?

Well they need to push through the hard times no matter how hard it gets, if given an opportunity you have to take it.

you sound hella racist.

You should live here and see how much special treatment they actually get then you might change your opinion on this matter.

like i said, i'd like to see how well you would progress after all that shit. and it's hella racist that you generalize like that and assume they just want to be lazy and sit on their asses in the first place.

you know what though? this is just getting tedious because obviously you just don't get it.

so fuck it.

Sunshine, you are 21 years old, you need to experience life first before making comments about what I get and what I don't get.
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you mentioned my heritage with a snotty little attitude as if i'm somehow just as bad as those i'm complaining about.


and should we just accept that humans are fucked up and never wish for anything better?


well… in my opinion, your opinion… is racist. i was actually mostly reacting to jake numbers at first, but your comments basically give off the same impression.



but life IS tough for them, and the "past evils" are really still extremely recent.

learn from the past?? what? as if they were somehow at fault for what happened and could have prevented it?

you are so, so lost.

like i said, i'd like to see you walk in their shoes, cuz you seem to have a serious problem understanding the severity of their struggle.


obviously you don't.


except everybody is not treated as equal. far from it. you're being hella contradictory.

exactly, minorities are still discriminated against and mistreated in many countries, it is horrible and fucked up so why are you over here blabbering about how people should just learn from shit and move on?


what the fuck?? once again i am not the one being racist and lacking empathy here. my heart goes out to any and all suffering people of this world; i'm not the one who needs to feel some compassion here. so what the fuck are you even talking about?

must just be your anti-semitic preconceptions showing through again…

yea, okay. so how do your friends feel when you talk shit about them and their "handouts"?



many? if you say so…

funny how few i can find info on though…

not to mention the majority of the aboriginal celebrities seem to be mixed, light skinned, with very caucasian features. what about any representation of dark skinned beauty?

why in the history of the world have there only been 2 aboriginal models ever to land the cover of vogue australia? the most current (samantha harris) while beautiful, is half german and very light skinned. now, don't get me wrong… i'm not saying that makes her any less in touch with her culture and i think it's great that somebody is representing aboriginal beauty in the media, but it's pretty fucked up that there still seems to be almost no representation of actual dark skinned and non visibly mixed aboriginal people.

it's not really a shock though, kind of like how almost all the indians in bollywood are hella light (indo-aryan) or how the majority of the latinos in the telenovelas are blonde and blue eyed caucasians (as opposed mestizos, or afro-latinos who make up a huge amount of the population but get almost no representation in the media… that's a whole other rant though.)

the point is, there is a lack of representation of dark skinned people in the media in many countries (including here) because of RACISM! racism is still alive today and the fact that you're so dismissive of it means you're either delusional or just an ass.

i'm not saying australia is the only fucked up country, because in a lot of the world people with dark skin are still treated as inferior, or less attractive. but just because it's so common doesn't make it any less fucked up! i don't know how you can realize and accept that there's still so much racism and obstacles, but at the same time you still expect people to magically get over it and have the same quality of life that you do?


you sound hella racist.

like i said, i'd like to see how well you would progress after all that shit. and it's hella racist that you generalize like that and assume they just want to be lazy and sit on their asses in the first place.

you know what though? this is just getting tedious because obviously you just don't get it.

so fuck it.
hey be quiet jesse jackson, we already know how aboriginals are obsessed blah, blah, blah
 

emma

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yea, like i said this is getting tedious so i'm done… i already made my point.

you're the one being hypocritical and contradictory; everything i said obviously went way over your head so this is just pointless to keep repeating myself.

but btw i'm 24 and a grown ass woman so stfu with that shit.
 

NAMO

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yea, like i said this is getting tedious so i'm done… i already made my point.

you're the one being hypocritical and contradictory; everything i said obviously went way over your head so this is just pointless to keep repeating myself.

but btw i'm 24 and a grown ass woman so stfu with that shit.
This is the response people have when they lose arguments and know they are wrong.

 

emma

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no. i stand by everything i've said 100%… but i realize that you have your head too far up your ass to understand logic so i'm not going to waste any more time trying to make you understand.
 
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As much as I think 4Chan is stupid.....the majority of Open Forum posters bring that '4chan vibe' here by repeating the same stupid shit in every thread, making this spot 4chan jr. areolas breh, no marty, bruhgoon, and everything else people repeat

I dont know Grapes/Synical but if anyones guilty of it, it aint him