A few reasons why Bay Area Rap is doin Bad right now...

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ispeakthetruth

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maybe unsuccessful musicians are giving bad advice that obviously doesn't work?
Well.. I dont know where to put that...All I know is we have a problem... Mr Reid, you of all people should know what Im speaking about here...I'd like to hear your input on the state of the bay area rap scene and hip hop in general sir. We have took a major dip and illegal downloading is just 10-15% of the problem. I would be glad to explain my figures...and why many download. I recently did a questionaire where I asked over 6,000 people if and why they download music illegally or purchase a bootleg album and the answers I received didnt surprise me one bit. another survey was done at the staples center by a close friend. same figures.
 
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look at what im saying though.. Not every rapper has to go mainstream.. Im sure there are people who are content with just doin they local thing. thats cool, just keep it in your own backyard and quit playing with the game and other peoples careers. Its like muthafukkas are oversaturating the market right now. Its like muthafukkas putting out a gang of faulty dvd players that break quick and dont last. Then you have a quality company out there tryna push they product, but the markets flooded with so much bogus shit your chances are slim....I am also a known Artist who keep my opinions here open and my name private. I go outside my region for sales and promo. This is just so Im not caught up in the madness of the bay music scene. So I dont have a kid in a record store staring at 12,000,000 CD'S where only 100 are really worth listening too. This is where artists pockets get hurt. An Artist should be able to pull a certain amount of sales to stay on the floor shelfs...If not make there music available online or keep it on a computer generated list so when a customer comes in and happens to ask for the artist cd they can retrieve a copy from the storage room or wherehouse for that purchase... Its just an Idea...

Look at Coke and Pepsi. When u go into a store how many ads and cardboard promos do you see with there products on it????????many!

Look at Shasta, Sunny select, and sams club soda...Do they get the big spots and billboards and extra shelf space in 3 different parts of the supermarket?? No.

In all reality my idea would be good for the game in general. maybe it would clear up alot of nonsense and people would recognize the real unit movers.Also it would make lazy artists who rely on a website and myspace to get up and get there shit to sell before they get pushed to the wherehouse and placed on a catalog list for public viewing...
.O.K. - maybe I'm not the only one, but I'm not really understanding your post. Don't get me wrong, you may be on point, but I think you may need to further explain what you mean... I think If you read your post again you'll see what I mean...

Anywayz... here's the key... you have to understand that there are only really two routes to take. You can either make tracks for the street and make your attempt at being the peoples champion (independent), or make music that sounds like what you hear on the radio (major). At this point there's really no grey area. You just have to ask yourself what you're really in it for. See, radio has a format. They cultivate this format to attract advertisers. No if, ands, or buts about it. Point Blank? Radio stations are businesses whether you believe it or not. They run off of advertising dollars, so no matter how much you bitch and moan about Bay Area radio not playing Bay rappers, the reality is that they are gonna play the format that generates the most advertising dollars. PERIOD! It's not personal , its only business. It's kinda like bein' mad at All Davis for the way he runs the Raiders. In your eyes he may be a piece of shit, but in his eyes he's only making decisions that make fiscal sense. There is no emotion in business. You make decisions based on the bottom line. You're either in the red or you're in the black. There's no two ways about it. This is not a game or a hobby. It actually feeds families. So the next time you find yourself in a position to make decisions on your career, you can either treat it like the business it is, or realize that in your true heart of hearts it's only a hobby to you... If this is the case then stop clogging the market with product and advertisements and marketing. Just rap. Ain't no shame in rappin' as a hobby. Just stay out of the way of those who take it way too seriously and are attempting to make a career of it...
 
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im not reid, but check this out

and im not speaking directly to you, dont take it personal

1.its not about how many posters etc... its about getting paid, it doesn't matter if you have 100,000 myspace plays or fliers all over america, if you dont have a lot more money in your pocket than what you invested, you are not hustling

2.Play your position, do you think that Sprint C.E.O's wake up in the middle of the evening and waste their time doing pointless shit? .. of course i've never met a sprint C.E.O. , but a C.E.O of a company usually gets off his ass and gets shit done

3. stop ripping people off, its not nice and it doesn't benefit you and your associates

you will loose your network, and those people will tell 12 more of how much of a cheap bastard you are,

LOYALTY is important, even when it hurts

stay away from self help books and pop shit about 48 laws of power etc...

making money off of people trying to get rich is a huge business, dont believe the hype


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70SAV just told you some good shit, in reality i wouldnt give you advice that would strengthen competition,

im basically saying "wanna a million dollars? first get a million dollars"

but those are some good basics still. specially about the loyalty
 

ispeakthetruth

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Al Davis.............................................................................what are we doin people. apples n oranges.........................really i cant elaborate, its late and i swear talkin to you guys right now being that im tired is like teaching my 2 year old daughter economics. it just wont work......
 
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Somebody tell Suge Knight to get sum of those millions he 's hiding from harry O to get X-Raided a good lawyer and out of jail...

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Brotha Lynch Hung-Aint nuthin wrong wit lynch.. Givem 10 mg of Abilify or the highest dose of Cymbalta, he gonna be straight...
X-Raideds music sounds nothing like Bay music & neither does Lynch.

I wish when people are talking about Bay artist they wouldn't include Valley artist. No offense but I just see this so much it gets tired. Now if ur talking all of Nor Cal then that's different.
 
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Al Davis.............................................................................what are we doin people. apples n oranges.........................really i cant elaborate, its late and i swear talkin to you guys right now being that im tired is like teaching my 2 year old daughter economics. it just wont work......
First... I apologize if it seems like I was taking a jab at your post , I honestly don't understand what you meant and the rest of my post was not directed at you personally.

Second.... It's not "apples and oranges", maybe you're just too tired to grasp it at this moment. Try again in the morning. It's a perfect analogy.

Third... if in the morning you still think my analogy is "apples and oranges", then take your right hand and wrap it around the left side of your neck, placing your thumb directly on your adams apple, then take your left hand and wrap it around the right side of your neck, again placing your thumb directly on your adams apple, then squeeze as hard as you can until you die.
If at this point you find that you were not successful then I think that it is time that you come to the reality that no matter how hard some people try, they will not be successful, whether you, or I, really, really, REALLY want them to be.

P.S. I was kinda on your side at first, but unless your daughter is like a brain surgeon and on some Doogie Howser type shit, don't insult my intelligence again. With that said... Fuck your thread. OUT....
 
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on some real stuff if tha bay stop hatin on tha bay like tha first post i seen talkin bout e pills and all that shit, man quit it . E pills and everything else been here since. its jus all about makin real music . I listen to mess , then I listen to other bay area artist with Rick Rock beats . Mess always has that platinum Rick Rock (Hypnotiq ) that Baby if U Give It to Me Busta Rhymes Rick Rock, that Change The Game Jay Z Rick Rock, all theze other cats pick fruity loops rick rock beats.
 

ispeakthetruth

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First... I apologize if it seems like I was taking a jab at your post , I honestly don't understand what you meant and the rest of my post was not directed at you personally.

Second.... It's not "apples and oranges", maybe you're just too tired to grasp it at this moment. Try again in the morning. It's a perfect analogy.

Third... if in the morning you still think my analogy is "apples and oranges", then take your right hand and wrap it around the left side of your neck, placing your thumb directly on your adams apple, then take your left hand and wrap it around the right side of your neck, again placing your thumb directly on your adams apple, then squeeze as hard as you can until you die.
If at this point you find that you were not successful then I think that it is time that you come to the reality that no matter how hard some people try, they will not be successful, whether you, or I, really, really, REALLY want them to be.

P.S. I was kinda on your side at first, but unless your daughter is like a brain surgeon and on some Doogie Howser type shit, don't insult my intelligence again. With that said... Fuck your thread. OUT....
Why Diss me??? I didnt do anything to you......Now you have to worry about me snatching your ass outta bed at night...................