with the rapid decrease in album sales and no signs of it gettin any better,why rap?

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Stylo

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its all in the hustle man... networkin and grindin get u to where u need to be.. most these niggas got the game twisted and try to shine before they grind.. that aint the business.... stack your chips... quit spendin your profits on dumb shit that dont appreciate like cars and jewels and invest that shit in somethin that will return.........
gunz and butter like ving rhames in baby boy.....thas wassup... and u cant do everything yourself... otherwise youll end up being a jack of all trades but master of none....
 
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i got this from stash magazine. they posted it a while back. like i said, get your music to influence your fans to buy everything else but music. thats where the real money is at.



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Hip-Hop Cash Kings - Jobs in the hip-hop industry
Source: Forbes.com

While most of us look forward to retirement, Shawn Carter, better known to the planet as master rapper Jay-Z, couldn't stand the view from the sidelines following his 2003 farewell The Black Album. Despite a frenetic schedule as president of Def Jam Recordings and co-founder of its ultra-successful Roc-A-Fella Records imprint, Jay-Z managed to squeeze in a comeback last year with Kingdom Come, his 11th studio album, which debuted at the top of the pop and rap music charts, selling some 2 million copies.

But those weren't the only paychecks coming in. Jay-Z also owns the 40/40 Club sports bar franchise, with locations in New York and Atlanta, and a small stake in the NBA's New Jersey Nets. (He's often photographed in courtside seats alongside his girlfriend, pop superstar Beyoncé.) Plus the native New Yorker (from Brooklyn's hardscrabble Marcy Projects) collects income from blue-chip endorsement deals with Budweiser, Hewlett-Packard (nyse: HPQ - news - people ), and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ). All told, Jay-Z banked an estimated $34 million in 2006, earning him the top spot on Forbes' first-ever list of hip-hop Cash Kings.
In Pictures: Hip-Hop Cash Kings

Unlike traditional music genres like pop, rock and country, whose artists generally make the bulk of their money selling albums and touring, hip-hop has spawned an impressive cadre of musicians-cum-entrepreneurs who have parlayed their fame into lucrative entertainment empires. Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, who nabbed the No. 2 spot on the list, presides over G-Unit, a diverse portfolio of businesses that includes apparel, ringtones, video games and even a line of fiction. All told, "Fiddy" as he is known to fans, made an estimated $32 million last year. "I'm creating a foundation that will be around for a long time, because fame can come and go or get lost in the lifestyle and the splurging," he told Forbes last year. "I never got into it for the music. I got into it for the business."

IN PICTURES:
Hip-Hop Cash Kings
Hip-Hop Hot Rods
VIDEO:
Hip-Hop Cash Kings
Nick Cannon "The Entrepre-tainer"
Marc Ecko: From The Street To Wall Street
Ford Flexes Funkmaster's Wheels
Feature:
Money From Heaven

At No. 3 is impresario Sean "Diddy" Combs, formerly known as "Puff Daddy," who lords over Bad Boy Worldwide Entertainment Group. That enterprise is responsible for TV series like MTV's Making the Band franchise, the Sean John clothing line, the bestselling Unforgivable cologne and a pair of restaurants called Justin's, named after one of his sons. The Bad Boy Records label, backed by Warner Music Group (nyse: WMG - news - people ), released albums last year by Danity Kane, Cassie and Yung Joc. Last year, Diddy himself released his first album in four years; Press Play debuted at the top of the U.S. pop and rap charts. All told, Combs made an estimated $28 million last year. (Representatives for Diddy, ever the showman, insist that figure is much higher.)

Generally, the most successful "hip-hopreneurs" run their own labels, taking a cut from the artists they sign. Both Eminem ($18 million) and Dr. Dre ($20 million) boast Interscope-backed imprints; both helped produce and release 50 Cent's last two albums, which have sold over 20 million copies worldwide. Fifty owns his own G-Unit label which produces artists like Young Buck and Lloyd Banks, among others.

Other lucrative businesses: producing tracks and beats for other artists. Listers like Timbaland ($21 million), Scott Storch ($17 million) and Pharrell Williams ($17 million) are among the most sought after--and pricey-- producers on the planet. Rappers like Snoop Dogg ($17 million) collect massive fees for cameos on other artists' tracks. Last year, in addition to releasing Tha Blue Carpet Treatment, his eighth studio album, Snoop Dogg ($17 million) made guest appearances on hit singles by Akon, Mariah Carey and the Pussycat Dolls.

While endorsement deals with top-shelf brands used to be the exclusive domain of pop's biggest acts--Michael Jackson and Madonna, among them--hip-hop artists now routinely land such gigs. This year Chamillionaire ($11 million) inked a deal with Energizer; The Game ($11 million) peddles Skechers sneakers. And in an irrefutable sign of just how corporate hip-hop has become: Last October Anheuser Busch named Jay-Z "co-brand director" for Budweiser Select.

Our estimates are based solely on 2006 income. In March, Jay-Z sold his Rocawear apparel label to Iconix (nasdaq: ICON - news - people ) for $204 million. Forbes estimates he pocketed about a quarter of that, after taxes and other payable commitments. And in May, Coca Cola (nyse: KO - news - people ) announced it would buy Glaceau, maker of VitaminWater, for $4.2 billion in cash. Once the deal is consummated, 50 Cent, who agreed to endorse the brand in 2004 in exchange for a small stake, should walk away with some $100 million. Best efforts were made to contact every member of the list for comment.

Forbes and E! Entertainment teamed up for a one-hour special about the list, which will premiere on Saturday, Aug. 18, at 6 p.m. ET. The E! special features exclusive interviews with Big Boi, Lil Jon, T.I., Swizz Beats and Scott Storch. Check your local listings.
 
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you cant knock jay-z or diddy's business sense. good article.

i got this from stash magazine. they posted it a while back. like i said, get your music to influence your fans to buy everything else but music. thats where the real money is at.



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Hip-Hop Cash Kings - Jobs in the hip-hop industry
Source: Forbes.com

While most of us look forward to retirement, Shawn Carter, better known to the planet as master rapper Jay-Z, couldn't stand the view from the sidelines following his 2003 farewell The Black Album. Despite a frenetic schedule as president of Def Jam Recordings and co-founder of its ultra-successful Roc-A-Fella Records imprint, Jay-Z managed to squeeze in a comeback last year with Kingdom Come, his 11th studio album, which debuted at the top of the pop and rap music charts, selling some 2 million copies.

But those weren't the only paychecks coming in. Jay-Z also owns the 40/40 Club sports bar franchise, with locations in New York and Atlanta, and a small stake in the NBA's New Jersey Nets. (He's often photographed in courtside seats alongside his girlfriend, pop superstar Beyoncé.) Plus the native New Yorker (from Brooklyn's hardscrabble Marcy Projects) collects income from blue-chip endorsement deals with Budweiser, Hewlett-Packard (nyse: HPQ - news - people ), and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ). All told, Jay-Z banked an estimated $34 million in 2006, earning him the top spot on Forbes' first-ever list of hip-hop Cash Kings.
In Pictures: Hip-Hop Cash Kings

Unlike traditional music genres like pop, rock and country, whose artists generally make the bulk of their money selling albums and touring, hip-hop has spawned an impressive cadre of musicians-cum-entrepreneurs who have parlayed their fame into lucrative entertainment empires. Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, who nabbed the No. 2 spot on the list, presides over G-Unit, a diverse portfolio of businesses that includes apparel, ringtones, video games and even a line of fiction. All told, "Fiddy" as he is known to fans, made an estimated $32 million last year. "I'm creating a foundation that will be around for a long time, because fame can come and go or get lost in the lifestyle and the splurging," he told Forbes last year. "I never got into it for the music. I got into it for the business."

IN PICTURES:
Hip-Hop Cash Kings
Hip-Hop Hot Rods
VIDEO:
Hip-Hop Cash Kings
Nick Cannon "The Entrepre-tainer"
Marc Ecko: From The Street To Wall Street
Ford Flexes Funkmaster's Wheels
Feature:
Money From Heaven

At No. 3 is impresario Sean "Diddy" Combs, formerly known as "Puff Daddy," who lords over Bad Boy Worldwide Entertainment Group. That enterprise is responsible for TV series like MTV's Making the Band franchise, the Sean John clothing line, the bestselling Unforgivable cologne and a pair of restaurants called Justin's, named after one of his sons. The Bad Boy Records label, backed by Warner Music Group (nyse: WMG - news - people ), released albums last year by Danity Kane, Cassie and Yung Joc. Last year, Diddy himself released his first album in four years; Press Play debuted at the top of the U.S. pop and rap charts. All told, Combs made an estimated $28 million last year. (Representatives for Diddy, ever the showman, insist that figure is much higher.)

Generally, the most successful "hip-hopreneurs" run their own labels, taking a cut from the artists they sign. Both Eminem ($18 million) and Dr. Dre ($20 million) boast Interscope-backed imprints; both helped produce and release 50 Cent's last two albums, which have sold over 20 million copies worldwide. Fifty owns his own G-Unit label which produces artists like Young Buck and Lloyd Banks, among others.

Other lucrative businesses: producing tracks and beats for other artists. Listers like Timbaland ($21 million), Scott Storch ($17 million) and Pharrell Williams ($17 million) are among the most sought after--and pricey-- producers on the planet. Rappers like Snoop Dogg ($17 million) collect massive fees for cameos on other artists' tracks. Last year, in addition to releasing Tha Blue Carpet Treatment, his eighth studio album, Snoop Dogg ($17 million) made guest appearances on hit singles by Akon, Mariah Carey and the Pussycat Dolls.

While endorsement deals with top-shelf brands used to be the exclusive domain of pop's biggest acts--Michael Jackson and Madonna, among them--hip-hop artists now routinely land such gigs. This year Chamillionaire ($11 million) inked a deal with Energizer; The Game ($11 million) peddles Skechers sneakers. And in an irrefutable sign of just how corporate hip-hop has become: Last October Anheuser Busch named Jay-Z "co-brand director" for Budweiser Select.

Our estimates are based solely on 2006 income. In March, Jay-Z sold his Rocawear apparel label to Iconix (nasdaq: ICON - news - people ) for $204 million. Forbes estimates he pocketed about a quarter of that, after taxes and other payable commitments. And in May, Coca Cola (nyse: KO - news - people ) announced it would buy Glaceau, maker of VitaminWater, for $4.2 billion in cash. Once the deal is consummated, 50 Cent, who agreed to endorse the brand in 2004 in exchange for a small stake, should walk away with some $100 million. Best efforts were made to contact every member of the list for comment.

Forbes and E! Entertainment teamed up for a one-hour special about the list, which will premiere on Saturday, Aug. 18, at 6 p.m. ET. The E! special features exclusive interviews with Big Boi, Lil Jon, T.I., Swizz Beats and Scott Storch. Check your local listings.
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Stories like that Stash magazine article is why I keep rapping. Looks to me like SOMEBODY is making money from this shit. If Northern California cant catch up then maybe I should leave. If The Game can make 11 million in a year from L.A. it's still some money in this game. I honestly have always made music for the love of the art. I honestly cant help but make music. As for Rick Ross, if the only thing that got dude poppin is his beats (the singles were produced by J.R. Rotem) everybody had a chance to get production from J.R. I met him at a music conference in Sacramento put together by Jay King (Club Nouveau) in like 2001-02. Dude was slangin his beats for like $500. Nobody really took the shit seriously and he took his shit to the major artists and blew the fuck up. So in essence there is somebody from this region who is gettin paid a shitload of money he just had to leave here to get it. It seems like we are still stuck in the Stone Age while these other regions are on some next level shit.
 
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Stories like that Stash magazine article is why I keep rapping. Looks to me like SOMEBODY is making money from this shit. If Northern California cant catch up then maybe I should leave. If The Game can make 11 million in a year from L.A. it's still some money in this game. I honestly have always made music for the love of the art. I honestly cant help but make music. As for Rick Ross, if the only thing that got dude poppin is his beats (the singles were produced by J.R. Rotem) everybody had a chance to get production from J.R. I met him at a music conference in Sacramento put together by Jay King (Club Nouveau) in like 2001-02. Dude was slangin his beats for like $500. Nobody really took the shit seriously and he took his shit to the major artists and blew the fuck up. So in essence there is somebody from this region who is gettin paid a shitload of money he just had to leave here to get it. It seems like we are still stuck in the Stone Age while these other regions are on some next level shit.
real talk.
 
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SO I PUT OUT THE STRANGULATION PT1.I PRESSED UP 1K, SOLD 1K MADE ABOUT 6500.I AM ABOUT 2 REPRESS BECAUSE IM GETTING HIT UP ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE CD,SO IM LOSING SALES RIGHT NOW.LET ME SAY THIS WHEN YOUR PROJECT IS DONE GET IT ON ITUNES VERIZON, DIGITAL DISTRO.MONEY KEEPS COMING IN EVERY MONTH.OH PART 2 IS ALMOST DONE ITS GUNNA BE TIGHT.ITS PROBLY GUNNA BE A MAY OR JUNE RELEASE.IWANT IT 2 BE AS PERFECT AS POSSIBLE.EVERYTHING WILL BE STEPED UP WITH THIS PROJECT....
 

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so why are you rappers still trying if the most successfull artists in the bay (besides e-40 who's been rappin since 1926) are having trouble selling 5-10,000 units TOPS? I think 99% of yall needa find a new career so you won't be sittin around at 35 like ''what happened''?....LOL
this is actually a very good thing, it will get help us get rid of all the bullshitters who are oversaturating the market with weak ass shit and are in it for the money only

if you started rapping because you want to make money, then you better stay out of it, everybody is going to benefit from this

it's as simple as that

I don't understand why you're complaining about something that's actually positive...

BTW sales are down not only because of the donwloads, the low quality of albums coming out is a big factor too, even bigger IMO

if the average (and, accordingly, the expected) quality of releases is shitty, nobody will buy them (and nobody is buying them)
 
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just some info for all the rappers:

if you don't got money to put out an album and cant get a record deal the next best thing to do is to find a sponsor. Big and small companies spend a massive amount of money on marketing cuz they understand that their bread and butter depends on it. type up a marketing package and start hustling it.