I agree with about 99.9% of MasZive's comments and I have reason for that matter. I've been followin the posts, just haven't had anythin to add on the Tech craze, but I need to make a point on Mas's & James' posts. First, I'm not here to diss or spice up the argument: Just to make a few points clear.
Raised in Kansas City (and that IS Kansas City), but livin in Columbia, MO (MU). Been feeling Tech since he was calm before blowin up in KC even (Calm before the storm). Having heard prolly most of everything he's dropped with anybody, hearing the comments of him being in his 'own lil world' is Ludicrous. Maybe that's how it sounds to someone who has not been listening to much variety of music, but Tech N9ne is not as weird as it gets for those of you who may think that he's "out there". Needless for me to say right now, but we all know that tech speaks his mind on ANY matter and you can trace patterns of his life through his music. Never does he jump the subject in an attempt to exagerate his already established reputation of being on a totally different end to most rappers. No. Tech raps about his life, what he feels, what he goes through and whatever he feels like rappin about, just like most rappers these day do (or claim to do). If i was Tech N9ne, being told that I'm in my own little world because of what I rap would be an insult: Writting and Rapping about what i feel like, what I go through, my trials, my tribulations, my pains, my gains, my homies, parties, whatever the subject is, and then having someone tell me it's in another world I'm in....No. Many things pass, but not that. You can critisize the man's rhymes (good luck at finding some to critisize), beats (equally difficult) and anything else you may not like, but one thing you cannot touch are his real lyrics and using that as justification for your opinions. When you do that, we have another problem...
Now, I go to school here with other St. Louis people. Honesty, I have no problem with them for the most part (until they rant endlessly about their superbowl accomplishments 3 yrs. ago) but that's a different matter. I sometimes find myself trying to give some exposure to these Lou cats on Tech and for the most part they've bought it. On a few occasions, this cat had the nerve to tell me in my own room whie Im bumpin my Tech that Nelly's better - (he guy was a rich white dude who obsesses anything that comes out of the Lou, but not like that had anything to do with it...)
Anyways, some Lou ppl have given some credit and have sometimes came on the matter that the lunatics have gotten repetitive, played out and 'old sounding', They did thank them for giving St. Louis more exposure by representing them on all cylinders, but there's only so much you can say about your city before your comments fall on death ears...Which is why Tech is more carefull about this on AP. He wanted KC heard in It's Alive had the Vid. been made, but the whole album as it turns out is about a lot more than signs and representing.
I cannot add much to the comment about STL listeners dissin local artists until they blow, but for Nelly and some others to be as big as they are today, he needed some kind of boost from hometown supporters first, so this may disprove MasZive's comment, unless you (Mas) know something I don't, then holla back and correct me.
As for ST. Louis being the most northern southern City. That is simply false. As a matter if fact, the State of Missouri was never recognized to be part of the Confederacy. At the time (1860), Missouri's National Guard/State Militia consisted of Confederates, but the State was never one of the states that Ceceded from the union and therefore was never confederate. Sure blacks and slaves and outlaws fought for Missouri's guard, but the regiment was amost unknown and neither was any southern dominance in the state. In fact, Missouri's State Legislature was mostly Republican, hence, supported by Lincoln and the union. Before the the Confederates could add the state of MO to the list of ceceded states by seizing the capital (Jeff City), the Union guard along with an unknown militia (later to have a reputation to fight like Tigers-which gave name to the mascot of the university of Missouri) came and swiftly defeated the confederates.
That's a bit of history lesson. Now, here is a way to check this visually if my last paragraph didn't make sense:
Acording to my Atlas, the entire state of Virginia lies further north according to cartographic measurements along the latitude than the city of St. Louis, therefore, ANY city north of Richmond Virginia can claim to be the Northernmost southern city in the US, not St. Louis which was never a southern state to begin with (read the conditions of the Missouri purchase).
--Now back to music--
Before we say that tech N9ne is not worldwide. Tech N9ne is worldwide, just not as exposed as Nelly. In Germany and france, and the Netherlands you will find tech N9ne (correct if I'm wrong). You will also find Nelly and many others. Also, Nelly has done more with a group of more worldwide renowned artists, i.e. NSYNC, which has given him an edge in that category. However, with the skill and run that tech N9ne is on right now, it may not be long before more Europeans (and Africans/Asians alike) purchase their copy of "AngEnfer" (closest translation of Anghellic in French).
On the matter of music, good point was made. ALL music does NOT have to be Gangsta. That is what seperate Tech and many others form the rest. However, as I said earlier, rapping simply on a different subject than what has come to be expected from rappers (ie money, pimpin, and killin) does not merit segregation. When Galeleio said that the sun was the center of the universe, the Roman Catholic church dismissed him as a heretic. When Columbus said the world was round and not flat, the world once again laughed. The first people to invent&introduce Rock music (and even hip-hop) were probably viewed as 'weirdos' of their age, however, today look at the truth and correctness of all those people.
Sure, today 'They one them called Tech N9NE' may be slammed as another freakoid, but like everyone else in this forum has said...it's ony a matter of time, and modern day hip hop's clock is ticking before Tecca Nina and others like him revolutionize the genre and bring more than what it is today.
Thanks yall for sittin thru my post. Whether it was borin or whatever, it had to be said to clear up some question marks.
(and what's with Nelly being in Training Day? Maybe he did #1, but I have yet to see his bandaged face on the screen. Oh, maybe he's in the green beetle that Denzel pulls over with the scared white kids and takes their weed and pipe...yea, that was him in the back seat.)
And on the closing note before I forget, I hope no one else recognizes or knows a city just because a rapper made reference to it in his song by 'representing' it. Let's stick to normal geography for now.
Pzz out.
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