WHY DO YOU......

EDJ · Dec 20, 2005

BELIEVE IN (gOD)? THIS POST IS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN A CREATOR. SO ALL YOU ATHEISTS CAN SIT BAK OBSERVE, LAUgH, LEARN SAMETHIN', OR JUST IgNORE IT.

SO WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN (gOD)? HOW ARE YOU SO SURE? DO YOU EVEN KNOW HIS PERSONAL NAME? WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP YOU gOT WITH HIM? HOW HAS HE PROVED HIS EXISTENCE TO YOU ON A PERSONAL LEVEL? HOW DO YOU KNOW HE IS REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW HE JUST AIN'T MADE UP? ELABORATE ON WHY.

Fridge · Dec 20, 2005

I asked for something that was completely improbable and I recieved it. Some would call it a miracle, some would call it happenstance. I just know at that moment, I specifically asked for something and recieved it in an unexpected manner. Since then, I've not had the gall to question it.

EDJ · Dec 20, 2005

^WHAT YOU ASK FOR AND HOW YOU KNOW IT WAS (gOD)?

Mi$ta-Murda187 · Dec 20, 2005

I belvei in god...
because I feel good comes from God...
and evil comes from Demons...

so if evil exists so does good.

But I believe in spiritual shit...

I think God has blessed me even though I know
damm well i don't deserve it most of the time....

that's my comments

JoMoDo · Dec 20, 2005

My upbringings, teachings, and life experiences in conjunction w/ our peoples history & my faith... Faith that our endeavors will flourish, faith that those who (since the beginning of history) question, despise, detest, deny our bloodline & will not rest until we are eradicated eventually accepts the fact that people are people, bottom line, and we’re all part of the same family. All humans are part of a greater ONE. I have faith that not all is bad, and divinity still exists, it’s just buried deep (maybe even lost) within the hearts of humans. I do not associate any formal images/idols with the creator (especially NOT in the form of another human being), rather God is an omnipotent, all being, omnipresent force who can be vengeful or full of mercy…. As hokey or cliché as it sounds, whether I am at Shul, or at my home or other suitable sanctuary and in prayer, I get a mental, physical, and spiritual feeling which can only be described as a DIVINE presence

Hashem's true name is not to said out loud, possibly b/c we don't know the true pronunciation, or b/c we don't have the divine purity to justify saying it aloud. (ya know, maybe a respect thing, like (most) not calling their parents by their formal names)....

In terms of the relationship, I feel it is important to give thanks for the food, shelter, and peace that I am personally blessed with daily, and pray that all others will be able to one day share the same comforts.

However, when things/life events turn out with less than desirable circumstances, I don't ask 'Why God, why have you done this to me/us/them?' but rather 'Please help to give me the strength and fortitude to handle _____ !'

God alone should not be an excuse for one’s success’ or failures, people, as human beings need to be accountable for their own actions.

EDJ · Dec 20, 2005

WHO'S YOUR PEOPLE'S?

LISICKI · Dec 20, 2005

Everything happens for a Reason.

There is something within each of us that makes us operate and keeps our cells dividing and multiplying, energy never dies it just transfers, theres no duracell batteries in our heart or brain its a spiritual form of power, that energy didnt come outta thin air, it had to be created and distributed by a source.

Rasan · Dec 20, 2005

COCALEAFS said:

co-sign!
also my mama played a big role in my beliefs as well

shoowilla · Dec 21, 2005

coo post, also maybe we can add what religion or what we believe in.

Many reasons, sometimes i could be doing anything and suddenly just stop and be like whoa, why are we alive, there has to be a greater power and that we didnt come from nothing. For instance why do we eat? for nutrition. Why do we work? to survive and provide. Why are we here?.........Our purpose in the world isnt to eat sleep and work, Why are we born?

The way the earth and Universe works, the way the earth came from a big bang or a large mass into a perfect creation. With planets swiimming in their orbits, earths atmosphere, lithosphere, biosphere, the endlessness of the universe and the perfection we see. For instance if we dropped a glass ball on the floor every time it drops it wil break and shatter into a buncha pieces but never will it break into little balls and be orchestrated as the way the universe is. When i see a car i dont hesitate for a moment that someone built it. Or for instance the human being comes from a clot and is unorganized mass into the most amazing creation in the world, the kidneys that clean the system, the eyes that adjusts focuses and applies color automatically, the heart that pumps for some people 75 years etc etc etc, everything has a law that it follows, from the large universe to the microscopic bacteria this isnt by chance and this mass that the big bang came from the mass had to come from somewhere, however it came to be it is totally outside the realm of human capability. Also the scientific facts in the Quran.

God told us his 99 names for instance AL-ALIM (the all knowing), AL-AHAD (the one), AL-AWWAL (the first), AL-AAKHIR (the last) are some but also the most well known is ALLAH ( the one and only God.

I just look at all the creation, the world and the universe.

In closing im a muslim. A muslim is one who submits to the will of God just like the planets in orbit, the way gravity works etc... we have the choice though unlike the planets, animals etc... a muslim is a slave to Allah and obeys what he says, thats why we say Jesus was a muslim, Abraham was a muslim, Moses was a muslim. Every prohpet of Allah brought one message and thats to Worship God alone, no where do they say to worship them. We dont have prohpets nowadays because the truth is out there and its preserved anybody can access it unlike back then where most people never came in contact with others hundreds of miles away, Mohammad s.a.w did not bring a new religion but he came with the truth of what jesus brought down and what moses brought down and what abraham brought down etc.... and what they all preached was to worship GOD alone, but all these other books where tampered and changed but the Quran is dot for dot what the prophet recited 1400 hundred years ago, the truth is out there untampered. We are not mohammadins because we dont worship him we worship the only one worthy of praise and worship the creator.

WHITE DEVIL · Dec 21, 2005

Showilla is s.a.w. the equivalent to Peace be Upon Him? I know many Muslims when they mention the prohpets names add 'Peace be upon him/them', etc.

I personally favor the ontological argument. There is no great wonder or grandeur in science, no political system that will achieve equality, no hope for the future of mankind to reconcile and cooperate. The man-made world and all its achievements will always pale in comparison to the spectacle of the earth and natural world. And if this world exists, and if mankind is a random failure, there must be some other dimension that allows us to see the fact that we engage daily in mass futility. Had that not been the case, God and metaphysical beings would hold no sway in the world.

It is simply that we are given through suggestion, introspection, interpretation, or tradition an idea of excellence and perfection that serves to prove the imminent existence of something higher. I have no relationship with a god I cannot see, hear, touch, or quantify. Obviously I have no 'relationship' with God. The God I see in other people's lives is a mental concept that serves to reinforce their ideas of morality, equity, and justice. Too many times I have seen people talk of what "God has revealed" to them. In fact it is the same thing they have or would have believed all along.

Yet I see a connection, or a continuity in things. Sometimes as events happen I get a strong sense of deja vu, not in specifics or details, but in theme and color; the congenital essence of life and the experience of living. This 'common thread' leads me to infer that there is a partiality in existence that the mapping of the human genome or loaves and fish for the huddled masses will not acquiesce or concede.

Cmoke · Dec 21, 2005

shoowilla said:

so how do you feel about evolution? are u saying you support the big bang theory? wouldnt this go against the possibility of a creator? Intresting.

shoowilla · Dec 21, 2005

Islam doesnt support the theory of evolution of humans today from apes, but in the Quran no where does it say that humans where the first on earth or the age of the earth, if anything the Quran supports evolution of plants and animal life, in the Quran it says that it created every animal from water. The Quran has alot of things especially about the creation and evolution but im not knowledgable on that subject so i wont speak on it but its interesting.

heres a verse from the Quran that talks about the big bang a little and evolution

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (The Noble Quran, 21:30)"

about the expansion of the universe
"And it is We who have constructed the Universe with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it." 51:47

Cosmic crunch
"The day when We shall roll back the skies, like a scribe rolls up a written document. As We began the first creation, We shall surely repeat it. It is a promise (binding) upon us. Indeed it will happen" (21:104)
The prophet s.a.w said that in the last hour the sun will rise from the west and indeed during the cosmic crunch this will happen.

theres a ton more with clearer explanations than what im saying, its even more amazing when you read it in arabic because this is straight translations and sometimes doesnt make that much sense.

shoowilla · Dec 21, 2005

WHITE DEVIL said:

Correct.

Cmoke · Dec 21, 2005

why do the majority of religous believers think automatically that when you use the word evolution, that it instantly means from and APE to a MAN? not once did i mention an ape of any kind, and that was not what my question related to.

shoowilla · Dec 21, 2005

i know cmoke thats why i said if anything the Quran supports the theory of evolution but just to make it clear to anyone whos reading i stated that it does not support the theory that humans today came from apes you got it twisted

JLMACN · Dec 21, 2005

EDJ good post

5000

UGT · Dec 21, 2005

i met the lord while i was in jail i just said fuck it n set all my pride aside n let down that hard headed side of me that wudnt accept jesus it was great filled my heart with joy it made jail notta a bad place but a place of understanding,its god looking out for us when were on lock cuz if we wernt sumthin bad prolly wud have happened in my case i know for sure sumthin wud of happened i was onna path to desstruction the lord brought everybody together of all races n thats real the power of the lord ,big ass riot cracked off every barrack got raided n grenaded ran sacked by the goon squad,except ours cuz the lord wudnt let it go down... u just gotta feel it i need to feel it again cuz ive been slippin ...but he knows it hard n i anit perfect specialy if i hadnt had my jesus fix its been a while..but when i was walking str8 with lord waking up at 6 am with a smile thanking god for anotherday watering the lawn,feeding the dogs n cats,playing cards with granma n granpa n family just luven it i miss that feeling ....

shoowilla · Dec 22, 2005

cmoke, after i posted those verses from the Quran how can i not believe in the big bang theory. And how is believing in the big bang theory go against a creator?

SilvaDoLLaDyme · Dec 23, 2005

JoMoDo said:

My upbringings, teachings, and life experiences in conjunction w/ our peoples history & my faith... Faith that our endeavors will flourish, faith that those who (since the beginning of history) question, despise, detest, deny our bloodline & will not rest until we are eradicated eventually accepts the fact that people are people, bottom line, and we’re all part of the same family. All humans are part of a greater ONE. I have faith that not all is bad, and divinity still exists, it’s just buried deep (maybe even lost) within the hearts of humans. I do not associate any formal images/idols with the creator (especially NOT in the form of another human being), rather God is an omnipotent, all being, omnipresent force who can be vengeful or full of mercy…. As hokey or cliché as it sounds, whether I am at Shul, or at my home or other suitable sanctuary and in prayer, I get a mental, physical, and spiritual feeling which can only be described as a DIVINE presence
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couldn't of said it any better....i believe in that sayin'.."God's within u, you just have to believe in him...

Cmoke · Dec 23, 2005

shoowilla said:

well i am not educated enough in the message of the Quaran to be able to really justify, however i know that christianity says that God created the world in 7 days.....he created the air the trees the poeple etc.....

evolutionary theory would not support the act of 1 person creating the entire world by himself, instead the existing matter and transformation of molocules and so on...

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