Why do Kriss and Kutt work jobs?

[sowlstar]

Basically, what everyone is saying is that...

1. What are the numbers from Kutt's album and SS's album?
2. They dont understand that, Krizz and Kutt arent comfortable to where they can just stop working financially. But since they are doing "Big Things" what exactly does that mean???
3. Why did Strange "not" promote Kutt bigger in the M.O. rather than taking the truck on the road? (I figure that they were touring, so Strange didnt have time to spread the word in Missouri)
4. MTV would be a good place to start and fuck it, Tech has to conform in a way to gain that trust with MTV then blow the indy out the water. People will feel him.
5. Tech's blown up, but he hasn't. Until he even makes it to the small plateau that even "Crime Mob" has, he isnt blown up really. And they suck, it's just that he isnt a household name. All they are are hook rememberable.
6. Kutt's promo seems a little awkward to me too because I didnt really see any of it. Now dont start getting shit fucked up on what I am saying, but I think that they should've put the 3 major Missouri cities on lock first, even doing a bitch as single with Kyjuan or Murphy Lee to get airplay in the Lou and on local radio first and then go from there.
7. A major deal is definaltely needed, not saying that Strange isnt doing the job, but I believe that if Strange was on a major level, they'd be doing 200% more marketing and promotion than anyone... What are the numbers from Kutt & SS's albums???

8. Tech's gonna blow, I know it... It's just what direction his album will take as far as singles wise. Yall gotta understand, people out here dont even care what the verses say, as long as you got a catchy hook and a beat that can be used as a ringtone, then you in like Flynn. Other than that, no one hears you.

9. Tech's first single is gonna either have to have Lil' Jon, Ludacris, Twista or some mainstream faggot to pop. Oh yeah, what was the numbers from Kutt & SS's albums???

Sorry to break it to ya...

And to add to that man not EVERY music artist make alot of money from CD sales, the majority of it comes from merch. And yes he might have gotten a nice signing bonus or what ever that money does not last long, there are bills to pay, studio time, support the fam and orther things he want's to spend his money on. For example-

Lets say an artist signs to any label and they get a check for $50,000 take tax out of that money now he is down to $25,000. Then maybe he want's to buy a car thats about...$10,000-$15,000. Oh you also got to have a crib so that's about $5,000-$6,000 (depending on location or what ever) got to have the right gear lets say he spends $1,000 on that. Now he is down to $5,000 up to $6,000 and just maybe he saves that money. That does not last long at all.

Just a thought

 

[CyrusTheVirus]

you also got to have a crib so that's about $5,000-$6,000

I'll take 2 at that price

 

[mizzouplaya]

Lets say an artist signs to any label and they get a check for $50,000 take tax out of that money now he is down to $25,000. Then maybe he want's to buy a car thats about...$10,000-$15,000. Oh you also got to have a crib so that's about $5,000-$6,000 (depending on location or what ever) got to have the right gear lets say he spends $1,000 on that. Now he is down to $5,000 up to $6,000 and just maybe he saves that money. That does not last long at all.

Thats laughable... i spent more than 15 g's on a car as a college freshman... im sure a rapper is lookin for somethin a lil more than 10-15. 5,000-6,000 for a crib....are you outta ya mind... you are obviously too young to see how money works in the real world.

 

[Slither]

^^lol, sad but true!^^

 

[mizzouplaya]

wassup slither... hope you feelin better

 

[Slither]

I am... and the drugs are wonderful Hopefully the settlement I get will be too Thanks

 

[Zer0.MediA]

And to add to that man not EVERY music artist make alot of money from CD sales, the majority of it comes from merch. And yes he might have gotten a nice signing bonus or what ever that money does not last long, there are bills to pay, studio time, support the fam and orther things he want's to spend his money on. For example-

CD's ARE merchandise. If people won't buy your cd, why would they buy your fucking shirt?

 

[techn9nehq]

why do people insist on typing in a dark color on a dark background?

 

[sowlstar]

What ever just my thought I see it don't mean shit.

 

[sowlstar]

CD's ARE merchandise. If people won't buy your cd, why would they buy your fucking shirt?

What I am saying is that the Majority of the cd sales goes to the record company, the money that these BIG artist get them from are from endoresments, having their own clothing line or what ever get what I am trying to say? Damn I guess a nigga can't have his own thoughts with out someone trynna get all offended or some shit damn

 

[Zer0.MediA]

Nah see... I have a hard time feeling bad for rap artists because even without clothing lines and shit, rock bands seem to make enough money to get by. With the exception of metallica, they get basically the same deals at a record company. Green Day seems to get by... Manson seems to get by etc.

I hate this fucking argument because it's basically like saying that famous people are getting the shit end of the stick, meanwhile the most fame I have is in a town called Hicksville and on a fucking message board, and I'm not hurtin' too bad about it. I have to go now, Puffy's on the other line.

 

[Roberto]

Nah see... I have a hard time feeling bad for rap artists because even without clothing lines and shit, rock bands seem to make enough money to get by. With the exception of metallica, they get basically the same deals at a record company. Green Day seems to get by... Manson seems to get by etc.

I hate this fucking argument because it's basically like saying that famous people are getting the shit end of the stick, meanwhile the most fame I have is in a town called Hicksville and on a fucking message board, and I'm not hurtin' too bad about it. I have to go now, Puffy's on the other line.

The reason a rock band can survive more easily is that they don't have to give 50% of their publishing to a producer, because they create their own music. Groups that do their own beats make alot more on publishing, etc. In the rock world, a producer might get 3% tops, unless he helps with the songwriting, ala Glenn Ballard or the Matrix...

 

[MasZive]

I think that from the beginning of this thread, the views that were discussed on here were on point, "from the perspective of a fan..." But the thing that proves the fans on here right who doesn't really know what Kutt and Krizz are working with financially and the slump of the SS album compared to PDM is the "NUMBERS"... Nick you spoke on it, and the "successful" strategy that Strange is taking for their Marketing and Promotion on your end hasnt been proven yet? Not saying that its your obligation to do so, nor is it your business to speak on the numbers, but that is all the people on here want to know. If they are being told and feel as if, "Big things" are hapnin' in the world of Strange Music, and dont see it, and then when they question it and are reprimanded time and time again for asking a purely interesting and legitimate question, that kinda sucks and doesnt look good on "yall"... Shit, I'd question it too if I saw Fat Tone operating the seat harnesses at Worlds of Fun, or if I walked back in Fish Captain and saw some red spikes and an apron back there frying fish and dropping fries. We know what Satin is all about man, they obviously dont really...

As far as me, yeah, it'd be easy to say, "Well, why dont you say what the numbers are since you want to be a smart ass about it!" But I am in the dark here and just as distant as everyone else on here when it comes to that information. To your defense Nick, would you mind letting the rest of us know...

1. "Urban Legends" sales #'s
2. "B.L.E.V.E." sales #'s
3. "P.D.M." sales #'s
4. "Absolute Power" sales #'s
5. "BEEF soundtrack" sales #'s

I know a few, but I cant say for sure. It would've been easier to say, "Yeah, Strange & MSC's :dead: strategies are working cause SS sold 43,000 copies or whatever..." That would hold up what your saying. But to say something along the lines of "Fuck off" and "You cant tell us how to run shit if you aint sold one album yet" isnt a good defense dogg.

I dont think that anyone on here wants to see Strange fail, and neither do I, we are antsy to see this bitch be blown up by Tech and everyone else instead of these labels that have one raw artist and 3 deadwights that follow like clockwork.


Flava Flaaaaaaav... Haaaaaaa!

 

[shep]

fuck it, i don't care if strange ever blows up big. i don't hold loyality to labels. my loyalty belongs to artists and their music. when death row was in its prime, i didn't support their artists because i liked suge knight and dre, i supported the artists because they were puting out good music, and if death row happened to be the label they were on, then so be it.

if strange music's artists put out quality albums, i'm going to buy them, but i will no longer buy releases that are crap in my opinion (beef, SS) because of the label that releases them.

 

[AaronDontezGr8t]

fuck it, i don't care if strange ever blows up big. i don't hold loyality to labels. my loyalty belongs to artists and their music. when death row was in its prime, i didn't support their artists because i liked suge knight and dre, i supported the artists because they were puting out good music, and if death row happened to be the label they were on, then so be it.

if strange music's artists put out quality albums, i'm going to buy them, but i will no longer buy releases that are crap in my opinion (beef, SS) because of the label that releases them.

I can't believe people just buy cd's because of the fact that they are a local artist. That shit seems to happen alot in KC. I don't know about you guys but if I don't feel and album there is no fucking way I am giving up money. Maybe this is the reason the only Strange cd's I have are Tech. I haven't heard all of kutt's cd yet so I don't know if it is tight or not and I didn't feel he had a long enough set the times I saw him to decide if I wanted to purchase anything or not. As fas as S&S or Krizz(when he drops one) I will not be buying it.

 

[Zer0.MediA]

Ah who even fuckin' cares? This thread is boo.

Stop beefin' ova the kake shit.

 

[sowlstar]

The reason a rock band can survive more easily is that they don't have to give 50% of their publishing to a producer, because they create their own music. Groups that do their own beats make alot more on publishing, etc. In the rock world, a producer might get 3% tops, unless he helps with the songwriting, ala Glenn Ballard or the Matrix...

Exactly Rock N' Roll bands don't spend their money on jewelry, or keeping up with the latest fashions or what ever. Their focus is %100 on the music and fuck that image Bs

 

[techn9nehq]

Ok Charles, You got me. I dont know exact numbers on those releases. Then again it's not my job to know them. BUT I DO KNOW that a lot of people, including myself, worked hard and continues to work hard on promoting EVERY artist on Strange Music. And a lot of comments on here are shitting on our efforts. So has it worked?....not really...but don't say we haven't tried like a motherfucker. Some people only want to look at numbers and criticize, but I've been there, I've seen crowd reactions Kutt and SS get at shows. I'm sure most of you have too. Hopefully when someone picks up Strange Music and Travis and Tech sign that major label deal, SS and Kutt's good music will be heard by more people. Because right now, at the independent level, we cant push singles on the radio for EVERYONES album. We tried reallllllly hard to get an Absolute Power song to catch fire on the radio and dispite sporatic positive results across the country, the efforts didnt parlay into what we were really looking for which was a big top 40 single nationwide.

Now you take that experience with trying to put Tech on the radio.....then you look at what you're trying to do with your other artists.....it's really hard to pull the trigger on releasing a single and putting all your budget into spins on the radio.

Success or failure, the table is set now. We have a great and diverse roster of tallent and now it's time for the major labels to come to breakfast. And I say breakfast because this is just the beginning.

 

[sowlstar]

Ok Charles, You got me. I dont know exact numbers on those releases. Then again it's not my job to know them. BUT I DO KNOW that a lot of people, including myself, worked hard and continues to work hard on promoting EVERY artist on Strange Music. And a lot of comments on here are shitting on our efforts. So has it worked?....not really...but don't say we haven't tried like a motherfucker. Some people only want to look at numbers and criticize, but I've been there, I've seen crowd reactions Kutt and SS get at shows. I'm sure most of you have too. Hopefully when someone picks up Strange Music and Travis and Tech sign that major label deal, SS and Kutt's good music will be heard by more people. Because right now, at the independent level, we cant push singles on the radio for EVERYONES album. We tried reallllllly hard to get an Absolute Power song to catch fire on the radio and dispite sporatic positive results across the country, the efforts didnt parlay into what we were really looking for which was a big top 40 single nationwide.

Now you take that experience with trying to put Tech on the radio.....then you look at what you're trying to do with your other artists.....it's really hard to pull the trigger on releasing a single and putting all your budget into spins on the radio.

Success or failure, the table is set now. We have a great and diverse roster of tallent and now it's time for the major labels to come to breakfast. And I say breakfast because this is just the beginning.

I commend you all that have done a great job promoting Strange Music to the fullest cause if I didn’t see “Imma Tell” on BET’s Uncut I would have never known who Tech was or any of the Strange Music artist. But ya’ll keep up the good work man keep ya’ gataz klean pimpin’

 

[Zer0.MediA]

Exactly Rock N' Roll bands don't spend their money on jewelry, or keeping up with the latest fashions or what ever. Their focus is %100 on the music and fuck that image Bs

Oh... so basically what you're saying is that rock music is about, ten thousand times better musically than rap, which I agree with.

And that you're a fuckin idiot, which I agree with as well.

dispite sporatic positive results across the country, the efforts didnt parlay into what we were really looking for which was a big top 40 single nationwide.

"We?" Don't you sell shirts, merchbitch?

Now you take that experience with trying to put Tech on the radio.....then you look at what you're trying to do with your other artists.....it's really hard to pull the trigger on releasing a single and putting all your budget into spins on the radio.

Well putting a indie atrist on radio is hard at any rate, but Kutt and especially SS probably have a hard time getting on radio because... well... they aren't good enough. Just being Techs friend doesn't make you good.
And Kutt needs to be on another label. I think he jumped on a bandwagon that he can't contractually get off of.

Success or failure, the table is set now. We have a great and diverse roster of tallent and now it's time for the major labels to come to breakfast. And I say breakfast because this is just the beginning.

By diverse you mean, Great! Decent, and shitty... right?