why are record sales so low?

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Mar 21, 2007
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i think what they should do is set these dj's straight


and artists should get together with download sites and torrents sites,

the thing is that... you cant really fight it, so it would be better to adapt and join.

like the way big artists united with myspace(which is known for shitty karaoke)

also, the way big artists united with youtube, you can now watch any video on youtube, any video you want without even putting that cd in, even if the music sucks, the artist still got thousands of views, and if people dont like it, they leave a comment on how they feel about it


in my opinion, the industry should stop fighting technology and adapt to it, cause you cant stop technology!!!!

and get rid of that shitty ass music,


no one wants to buy a 1 hot song record
 
Mar 21, 2007
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by the way, i also think that youtube and myspace should start paying for having artists on there, not that consumers should pay,

but when i watch a video of a new song, it comes off with a whole bunch of ads and everything(which im sure youtube gets money off that) youtube should be paying artists like it was showtime or something

(im thinking too big on this one tho lol)
 
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I think theese artists need to quit worrying about sales i spent 5 months out of 05 and 5 months out of 07 and sell a substancial abmmount of records hand to hand and make a full 6-10 dollars every sale the press up cost is a 1.20-1.10 per cd and we averaged 3,500 of on title 2,300 of another title and in 05 well it wasnt as good but still 46k for 5 months of work minus gas and food they trip was a decent venture payed bills had fun ect
 
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If I hear something I like, I dont mind buying it. I used to buy alot of tapes in the 90's and alot of them had 2 good songs and the rest were garbage.

I also heard that Hip hop is mostly getting hit with these low sales. I heard other genres are not hit AS hard as hip hop (heard, but not sure).


As far as shitty muzik, well its all preference. People think Lil Wayne is shitty, yet people are buying his album and he has downloads out there like any other artist.
 

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If I hear something I like, I dont mind buying it. I used to buy alot of tapes in the 90's and alot of them had 2 good songs and the rest were garbage.

I also heard that Hip hop is mostly getting hit with these low sales. I heard other genres are not hit AS hard as hip hop (heard, but not sure).


As far as shitty muzik, well its all preference. People think Lil Wayne is shitty, yet people are buying his album and he has downloads out there like any other artist.
I haven't checked the soundscans in a long time, but last time I did country music for example was doing just fine, and I am ready to bet it still is. The reason is that hip-hop has the youngest audience and these people are most likely to download their music and they also have the least money to spend on CDs. While people who listen to country music obviously aren't spending most of their time on the computer
 
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I haven't checked the soundscans in a long time, but last time I did country music for example was doing just fine, and I am ready to bet it still is. The reason is that hip-hop has the youngest audience and these people are most likely to download their music and they also have the least money to spend on CDs. While people who listen to country music obviously aren't spending most of their time on the computer
The truth. I also feel that Country doesnt have as many artists as hip hop and their market might not be "oversaturated" (and I use that word loosely, kuz you can pick and choose who you want to listen to.).

I used to buy alot of albums in the mid to late 90's, but the market got hella talent and then there were alot of albums out and too many to buy (if you aint rich).

If it sounds good to me, I'll buy the album and support the artists. I was not up on SD hip hop and had to have an un bias listen to some of the talent outta there. With that said, I've bought several albums outta SD this year.

If they make great muzik, then they deserve my money.
 
Feb 8, 2003
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who is a record exe or sales marketer on here?


Its obvious the reson sales are low bc the music its up to the fans expectations and anticipated. its that plain and simple.


That download theory is bullshit and a poor excuse by a artist. look at metallica, t.i., lil wayne sales they sghit was probaly downloaded the most and they still sold heavy
 

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Nobody sells 10+ millions any more though

True, nobody makes such big hits that will drive diamond sales, but given the intellectual level of most of the public, this is the least problem
 
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i blame it on DJ's

DJ's putting out bullshit mixtapes, and charging for radio spins


DJ's are fuckin up the game, they already destroyed radio as a whole

with their go phone advertising and nelly bullshit advertising no one wants to buy(that shit flopped hard)


i also agree with what THAG said
dont blame the dj's for the artists making bullshit music
 
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This is exactly why record sales especially Hip Hop are low.
Let me elaborate. People that actually have a rap career or some type of industry job are completely out of touch with making good music and selling records.

Think of how much of main stream hip hop is based of copycating other rappers. Rappers and executives think they are making "whats hot" but really theyre just killing the sound. Think of how many artists drop singles a few months, six months, A YEAR before their cd actually drops. Think of how many artists think they are doing themselves some good by dropping mixtape after mixtape after mixtape and then being surprised as hell when they learned they oversaturated the market and killed their own buzz. Think of how artists BEHAVE as people. Think of how music executives coerce artists to work with label mates and do single tracks rather than let them experiment. There's just too many examples of all of these to even get into detail.

The most successful rappers from this time period will be the Techn9ne's, the Zion I's, rappers who may only sell 50-100K but retain a large fanbase, a high-caliber chronology (read: they only drop solid cds), and TOUR extremely well. People in 20 years won't be talking about Young Berg, Dipset, or any of these more mainstream rappers whose music won't withstand the test of time. Finding good hip hop music is going to become like going to boutique shoe stores for orignal Nikes. People will look back at this era and search and search until they find originality. Kids will go into the record store and get curious about names like Techn9ne because they are heard of but never heard and then they'll take a chance with an album like Angellic and remember the good rap the 2000s had to offer.
 

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Let me elaborate. People that actually have a rap career or some type of industry job are completely out of touch with making good music and selling records.

Think of how much of main stream hip hop is based of copycating other rappers. Rappers and executives think they are making "whats hot" but really theyre just killing the sound. Think of how many artists drop singles a few months, six months, A YEAR before their cd actually drops. Think of how many artists think they are doing themselves some good by dropping mixtape after mixtape after mixtape and then being surprised as hell when they learned they oversaturated the market and killed their own buzz. Think of how artists BEHAVE as people. Think of how music executives coerce artists to work with label mates and do single tracks rather than let them experiment. There's just too many examples of all of these to even get into detail.

The most successful rappers from this time period will be the Techn9ne's, the Zion I's, rappers who may only sell 50-100K but retain a large fanbase, a high-caliber chronology (read: they only drop solid cds), and TOUR extremely well. People in 20 years won't be talking about Young Berg, Dipset, or any of these more mainstream rappers whose music won't withstand the test of time. Finding good hip hop music is going to become like going to boutique shoe stores for orignal Nikes. People will look back at this era and search and search until they find originality. Kids will go into the record store and get curious about names like Techn9ne because they are heard of but never heard and then they'll take a chance with an album like Angellic and remember the good rap the 2000s had to offer.
a lot of truth in this post
 
Mar 21, 2007
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who is a record exe or sales marketer on here?


Its obvious the reson sales are low bc the music its up to the fans expectations and anticipated. its that plain and simple.


That download theory is bullshit and a poor excuse by a artist. look at metallica, t.i., lil wayne sales they sghit was probaly downloaded the most and they still sold heavy
hmmmm, you might be right....

cause outkast's "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below" sold about half a mill the first week(which can be compared to today's first week sales by some artists),

then as time passed it sold 11 times platinum

you are right on that one