Gas One said:
end of convo
and immortal technique isnt even that great either
you can be a lyricist all you want but that dont mean you make good songs much less good albums, take canibus for example. and lyricism isnt based on spouting off anti-political propaganda till the listener starts snoring.
i agree, to me it consitsts of some what compex rhyme schemes with some type of meaning. and just cause someones a lyricist doesnt make me like him (i dont like canibus and alot of other good lyricists) but ill still respect their skill at what they do, despite me not liking to listen to it. so to my standards, imm tech is a lyricist, and i agree his isnt all that
great but he does make alot of rappers (i wont name names) sound foolish in comparsion to his work
Gas One said:
but as it stands right now WITHOUT a bias based on my tastes because i have no bias, id rather listen to tiny doo regardless of all the intellectual lyricism spewed forth by the latter..dont really need music for education or enlightenment.
and thats just one persons opinion.
im not so much educated or enlightened by it either. for the most part im already aware (as you might be too) of most of the political and historical issues that immortal technique touches on in his music, but for those who arent and learn it from his music rather than books...good for them and good for immortal technique. thats alot more of an accomplishment than alot of other rappers can or even try to make
Gas One said:
immortal technique just happens to have a cult following of white kids that wear che shirts, thats all.
and tiny doo has a
MUCH SMALLER cult following of ghetto (or wannabe ghetto) kids that wear oversized night gown looking shirts. so what?
Gino Riggs said:
We would rather play some bumpin ass music we can play in our cars not know shit like that he posted.
i dont know about the cd players and speakers in your cars, but mine play all kinds of cds. i think i have an idea of what youre getting at but im not sure, are kids getting out of school on the streets not impressed if you trunk doesnt rattle and youre not playing gangsta rap in your car or what?
Gino Riggs said:
Thats some political/philosphy type of rap shit we on some street shit here at Siccness.
they both rap, they both have beats, whats the difference between the two. is it that "street shit" simply repeats and glorifies the oppression that goes on in the streets, and "political/philosophy type rap shit" actually tries to build up consciousness to try to end the oppression that goes on in the streets?
Malkorasoul said:
retarded topic..lol..dude who made this topic is acting like he isnt hating but when u start a thread with a condecending tone like, "who the fuck is (insert name)" or "is this guy a kid or a grown man?". Really there is no need for that type of shit, What your basicly doing is giving everyone who hasnt heard Tiny doo a first impression. So when ever these cats hear tiny doo they think of this thread, instead of letting his music do the talkin. All that is hating and is indirectly fuckin with Tiny doos pockets, and you really wouldnt want to do that.
i did hear the actual music and have been commenting on it. i started the thread cause his name is funny and his cds name is funny. i knew ppl would post info about the guy and they did...and as soon as someone posted his myspace, the first thing i did was listen to his music. i even listened to more than one track and all the way through...and i have made mention of the actual music, which is that my honest opinion is that he sounds like every other rapper that just brags about himself over and over track after track (sorry if i actually listened to the lyrics rather than just bump my head to beats that sound tight in the ride). "that guy"s got it right with his comments, but i think ive figured out the whole "hating" thing. if you just say you dont like someone, but keep inside why, then its okay. but if you explain why you dont like someone, then youre hating... so i guess im a hater...oh well
Gas One said:
and a fair shot IS bieng given in this thread. just because the threadmaker hated dont mean everyone else does, or everyone feels him..some of us are a little too old to be actin like that...matter fact tiny doo may have sold a few more records on the strngth of niggas even debating it... same cant be said for immortal technique since niggas just download his shit...hah
youre right tiny doo has probably gained a few fans through this thread, and thats fine with me, im not on some agenda to end his career or anything. he could make it to mtv and join the likes of mike jones and lil rob and all the other garbage rappers on mtv for all i care. if making money (rather than good music) is tiny doos main concern in the music biz than this thread is as good for him as a made up beef is for rappers. immortal technique has toured world wide and his revolutionary cds have probably sold a huge amount more than the critically acclaimed
what it doo, so i little like thread like this probably wouldnt help him as much as it would little doo