Who owns the siccness.net
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I saved this when it was originally posted...I believe it was written by Vamps, the former owner.
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Siccness History - The site, originally named 91Siccness.com was founded in early 1998 by Roloc, MJP and Xaos, college students at Chico State, in Northern California as a site dedicated to Brotha Lynch Hung and other Sacramento area artists. The site’s name came from combining the “siccness,” a graphic, reoccurring theme often rapped about by Sac’s artists and their area code; 916. The site contained information about the artists, but offered little in the way of news that was not all ready public knowledge. Shortly thereafter, the first message board was incorporated into the site and the Siccness we all know today began to take shape.
Word of the site spread to the streets and some of Sac’s key figures, including Lynch and Cedric Singleton, C.E.O. of Black Market Records, his label at the time, registered and began interacting with the fans. It did not take long before the Siccness had doubled in size and its influence began to be felt. As the Siccness grew, tensions began to arise between different artists and labels on the site; one of the most notorious was the feud between Lynch and Cedric Singleton as Lynch struggled to get off of Black Market Records. Lynch still maintains to this day that he was not paid the money owed to him and refused to turn in any further material until he was fully compensated. Cedric countered Lynch’s claims by posting his W-2’s on the site for the world to see and soon after, stopped posting altogether.
The site had reached a new peak in popularity, but was caught up in feuds between artists and another site, the Bay area equivalent to the Siccness; B.A.R.T, or Bay Area Rap Talk. Although both B.A.R.T. and the Siccness shared some members, there was always a mistrust and rivalry between the two Northern California powerhouses. Although similar in their service, purpose and appeal, the two sites had different philosophies that continued to separate them and fuel the rivalry between them. The stress on Roloc and his staff was at its greatest as they struggled to pay the site’s rising costs and keep the peace among their members. Roloc turned to the artists for help, asking them to perform at an exclusive 9-1-Siccness concert to be held at a club in Chico later that year.
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Siccness History - The site, originally named 91Siccness.com was founded in early 1998 by Roloc, MJP and Xaos, college students at Chico State, in Northern California as a site dedicated to Brotha Lynch Hung and other Sacramento area artists. The site’s name came from combining the “siccness,” a graphic, reoccurring theme often rapped about by Sac’s artists and their area code; 916. The site contained information about the artists, but offered little in the way of news that was not all ready public knowledge. Shortly thereafter, the first message board was incorporated into the site and the Siccness we all know today began to take shape.
Word of the site spread to the streets and some of Sac’s key figures, including Lynch and Cedric Singleton, C.E.O. of Black Market Records, his label at the time, registered and began interacting with the fans. It did not take long before the Siccness had doubled in size and its influence began to be felt. As the Siccness grew, tensions began to arise between different artists and labels on the site; one of the most notorious was the feud between Lynch and Cedric Singleton as Lynch struggled to get off of Black Market Records. Lynch still maintains to this day that he was not paid the money owed to him and refused to turn in any further material until he was fully compensated. Cedric countered Lynch’s claims by posting his W-2’s on the site for the world to see and soon after, stopped posting altogether.
The site had reached a new peak in popularity, but was caught up in feuds between artists and another site, the Bay area equivalent to the Siccness; B.A.R.T, or Bay Area Rap Talk. Although both B.A.R.T. and the Siccness shared some members, there was always a mistrust and rivalry between the two Northern California powerhouses. Although similar in their service, purpose and appeal, the two sites had different philosophies that continued to separate them and fuel the rivalry between them. The stress on Roloc and his staff was at its greatest as they struggled to pay the site’s rising costs and keep the peace among their members. Roloc turned to the artists for help, asking them to perform at an exclusive 9-1-Siccness concert to be held at a club in Chico later that year.
The artists on the site were more then willing to help Roloc and they all showed up in support of the Siccness. Bukshot, Kentucky’s largest rapper, even flew in to perform at the show. Even more incredible then that, was Cacarot, a member of the site who rented a van and drove all the way across the country from Florida, picking up members along the way. The concert was a success and First Degree the D.E. ended it by asking the fans to meet at a park in Chico the following day to appear in his music video for Bad Bitti, a song off of his album Damn that D.E. The support and unity of the Siccness community was evident and seemed to heal the wounds that had been present prior to the show. But for reasons that remain his own, Roloc decided to sell the site.
Few people were aware of the turmoil that went on behind the scenes as Roloc was trying to find the right buyer for the site he had built from the ground up over the last two years. Roloc received offers from other members as well as people in the music industry, but decided to sell the site to Vamps, a member of the Siccness. Vamps had no web design experience and agreed to buy the site only after he had received the recommendation of Junior, an incredibly skilled web designer, from a friend and member, Leader of the New Church, who had known Junior since High School. Vamps sent the check to Roloc and met with Junior for the first time that next week. Together they drew out what they envisioned as the new Siccness and began building it. Junior agreed to redesign the site for a minimal amount of money, as a favor to Leader, but after the site was completed, Vamps was on his own, unless he could continue to pay Junior.
Roloc publicly announced that he was no longer the owner of the site and that he had chosen Vamps as its new owner. The backlash against Vamps was tremendous. Many people who had been on the site as long or longer then Vamps did not understand why he had been given the site and spoke out against him. Msane was the first rapper to announce that he was leaving the site if Roloc was not in charge. Vamps started to see the site he had just bought and been a part of for years begin to fall apart.
With the help of Leader, he changed the site back to their original colors of green on black, stripping away the light blue that Roloc had changed it to in an attempt to make the site more appealing to the public. Once again, the change was met with resistance. The artists became silent and withdrew their support, waiting to see what further changes Vamps and Junior would make. At about the same time, Curbie, another member and promoter for Madman Records, began emailing Vamps daily. Curbie was in contact with the Sacramento legend, X-Raided who was still recording albums from prison as he served out his sentence for murder. Vamps and Curbie worked out an arrangement and Madman Records became one of the biggest supporters of the Siccness, saving it from ruin.
Few people were aware of the turmoil that went on behind the scenes as Roloc was trying to find the right buyer for the site he had built from the ground up over the last two years. Roloc received offers from other members as well as people in the music industry, but decided to sell the site to Vamps, a member of the Siccness. Vamps had no web design experience and agreed to buy the site only after he had received the recommendation of Junior, an incredibly skilled web designer, from a friend and member, Leader of the New Church, who had known Junior since High School. Vamps sent the check to Roloc and met with Junior for the first time that next week. Together they drew out what they envisioned as the new Siccness and began building it. Junior agreed to redesign the site for a minimal amount of money, as a favor to Leader, but after the site was completed, Vamps was on his own, unless he could continue to pay Junior.
Roloc publicly announced that he was no longer the owner of the site and that he had chosen Vamps as its new owner. The backlash against Vamps was tremendous. Many people who had been on the site as long or longer then Vamps did not understand why he had been given the site and spoke out against him. Msane was the first rapper to announce that he was leaving the site if Roloc was not in charge. Vamps started to see the site he had just bought and been a part of for years begin to fall apart.
With the help of Leader, he changed the site back to their original colors of green on black, stripping away the light blue that Roloc had changed it to in an attempt to make the site more appealing to the public. Once again, the change was met with resistance. The artists became silent and withdrew their support, waiting to see what further changes Vamps and Junior would make. At about the same time, Curbie, another member and promoter for Madman Records, began emailing Vamps daily. Curbie was in contact with the Sacramento legend, X-Raided who was still recording albums from prison as he served out his sentence for murder. Vamps and Curbie worked out an arrangement and Madman Records became one of the biggest supporters of the Siccness, saving it from ruin.
The relationship between Curbie and Vamps began to develop and Curbie offered to buy the other half of the Siccness. At first, Vamps was hesitant to say the least. But after careful consideration and the consultation of his girlfriend, he agreed. Curbie wasted no time proving himself to be a valuable addition to the staff, networking with every artist he could, no longer feeling limited to just Sacramento. Vamps and Junior had designed the new site to revolve around the message board that had always been the constant life of the site and launched it on June 9th, 2001. Seven hundred members registered on the new site in two days and the Siccness began returning to its place on top. However, as the site flourished with its new design, animosity began to form amongst Vamps, Curbie and Junior.
Junior had completed the job he had been paid for, but had changed his mind. During the months it took to build the new site, he saw the potential in it and wanted to become a permanent part of the staff. Both Curbie and Vamps were more then happy with the success the site was having and knew a lot of it was credited to Junior, and welcomed him as a part of the staff, offering him a percentage of the site’s profits. Junior was not satisfied. He wanted a greater amount of the profits and threatened to pull the site down that same day if his demands were not met. Vamps and Curbie had no choice, but to agree. Junior was working at a hosting company and was providing a free server for the site, one that neither Vamps nor Curbie could afford on their own.
Soon after, B.A.R.T. began having similar problems. As their popularity grew, so did the cost of maintaining their site and Vamps contacted Mad Skrill about hosting B.A.R.T. temporarily while they got back on their feet. Mad Skrill agreed and Vamps gave B.A.R.T. their own section on the Siccness. The 91Siccness for the first time, encompassed both Sacramento and the Bay, providing one place for the fans, artists and labels. The animosity between the two sites dwindled and their members began to mix.
September 8th of 2001, three days before the attack on the World Trade Center, the Siccness threw a barbeque in Fremont, California. The event was open to all the members, artists and labels as well as the public. At its peak, there were over 200 people in attendance, and more then 20 artists came. Once again, the Siccness had thrown a successful event, with people coming from all over the country to attend. A television crew was there to film the event and get interviews with several of the artists.
The site was flourishing. 91Siccness.com had the Bay and Sacramento covered, but the desire to have Los Angeles represented was a constant one. Gate Won, who heads the media department on the Siccness had also done work with one of the top L.A. sites, WCKillaz.com and introduced the staff on the Siccness to theirs. Junior and Vamps talked with them and agreed to open up a WCKillaz board on the Siccness to fill the void and give L.A. artists and fans a place of their own. Their stay was short lived. There are conflicting stories about what occurred, but for whatever reason, WCKillaz pulled their board and went their own way.
Junior had completed the job he had been paid for, but had changed his mind. During the months it took to build the new site, he saw the potential in it and wanted to become a permanent part of the staff. Both Curbie and Vamps were more then happy with the success the site was having and knew a lot of it was credited to Junior, and welcomed him as a part of the staff, offering him a percentage of the site’s profits. Junior was not satisfied. He wanted a greater amount of the profits and threatened to pull the site down that same day if his demands were not met. Vamps and Curbie had no choice, but to agree. Junior was working at a hosting company and was providing a free server for the site, one that neither Vamps nor Curbie could afford on their own.
Soon after, B.A.R.T. began having similar problems. As their popularity grew, so did the cost of maintaining their site and Vamps contacted Mad Skrill about hosting B.A.R.T. temporarily while they got back on their feet. Mad Skrill agreed and Vamps gave B.A.R.T. their own section on the Siccness. The 91Siccness for the first time, encompassed both Sacramento and the Bay, providing one place for the fans, artists and labels. The animosity between the two sites dwindled and their members began to mix.
September 8th of 2001, three days before the attack on the World Trade Center, the Siccness threw a barbeque in Fremont, California. The event was open to all the members, artists and labels as well as the public. At its peak, there were over 200 people in attendance, and more then 20 artists came. Once again, the Siccness had thrown a successful event, with people coming from all over the country to attend. A television crew was there to film the event and get interviews with several of the artists.
The site was flourishing. 91Siccness.com had the Bay and Sacramento covered, but the desire to have Los Angeles represented was a constant one. Gate Won, who heads the media department on the Siccness had also done work with one of the top L.A. sites, WCKillaz.com and introduced the staff on the Siccness to theirs. Junior and Vamps talked with them and agreed to open up a WCKillaz board on the Siccness to fill the void and give L.A. artists and fans a place of their own. Their stay was short lived. There are conflicting stories about what occurred, but for whatever reason, WCKillaz pulled their board and went their own way.
The Siccness also began having problems with their site and server. Junior provided us with a server free of charge; the only catch being that it was corrupt and needed constant supervision otherwise it would fail and the site would go down. Junior’s job then shifted from updating the site to babysitting the server and our problems deepened. Junior made the decision to pull the site, leaving just the message board active. Once again, the Siccness was nothing more then a series of forums. Later that week, Vamps got a call from Dave Wilson, a promoter from Hafway House Entertainment about advertising an up coming Lynch concert in San Jose. The two immediately connected and Vamps worked out a deal with Dave to sponsor the event.
The concert scheduled for November 1st was a disappointment. There was miscommunication between Hafway House and Siccmade Muzicc, Lynch’s company and Lynch did not perform at the show. Instead, the San Jose police department surrounded the club, blocking off the street, with their guns drawn and entered the concert, reportedly looking for a murder suspect that had been on the run in the area that week. He was not found, but the concert came to end just the same.
The site’s server continued malfunctioning and the Siccness went down several times a week, sometimes for hours at a time. The staff was as frustrated as the members were and decided to take the site down and redesign it completely, adding the features that were present before the portal collapsed. Vamps and Junior spent the next three weeks completely redesigning the site from scratch and decided on December 31st as the launch date. The Siccness had been down over a month.
December 31st came and the site had not been completed. Junior wanted to put up the half-completed site, but Vamps refused and they were forced to settle for just putting the message board back up. Shortly after the board was back up, 714KaliHyrdo, a veteran member of the site made a post in Junior’s forum asking why the site was constantly down and was not fixed promptly. Junior took offense to the comments and complained to Vamps about what was said. Vamps had the opposite reaction that Junior had expected, and told him that he agreed with what had been said.
The concert scheduled for November 1st was a disappointment. There was miscommunication between Hafway House and Siccmade Muzicc, Lynch’s company and Lynch did not perform at the show. Instead, the San Jose police department surrounded the club, blocking off the street, with their guns drawn and entered the concert, reportedly looking for a murder suspect that had been on the run in the area that week. He was not found, but the concert came to end just the same.
The site’s server continued malfunctioning and the Siccness went down several times a week, sometimes for hours at a time. The staff was as frustrated as the members were and decided to take the site down and redesign it completely, adding the features that were present before the portal collapsed. Vamps and Junior spent the next three weeks completely redesigning the site from scratch and decided on December 31st as the launch date. The Siccness had been down over a month.
December 31st came and the site had not been completed. Junior wanted to put up the half-completed site, but Vamps refused and they were forced to settle for just putting the message board back up. Shortly after the board was back up, 714KaliHyrdo, a veteran member of the site made a post in Junior’s forum asking why the site was constantly down and was not fixed promptly. Junior took offense to the comments and complained to Vamps about what was said. Vamps had the opposite reaction that Junior had expected, and told him that he agreed with what had been said.
Junior felt betrayed. He had expected Vamps to defend him, but received the opposite. Junior and Vamps got into an argument that night and Junior quit. Vamps called Curbie to tell him what had happened and Curbie called Junior with Vamps on the phone. Junior was once again threatening to pull the entire site down since it was on his server, knowing that the site was dependent upon it. No progress was being made on the phone, to put it politely, and it was not until Curbie talked with Junior alone, that Junior decided he would not quit his position or discontinue service. He would stay on the condition that he would deal only with Curbie, because Vamps was too difficult to get along with.
Vamps and Junior did not talk for the next several weeks. Vamps got a job working for a marketing company and was forced to work 72 hours a week and his role from the Siccness all but disappeared. Vamps went to Albuquerque, New Mexico on a business trip and called Junior for the first time in over a month to check on the site. Junior informed Vamps that the site was thriving and that Bayside Distribution was now officially represented on the Siccness. Junior had run the site for over a month by himself.
Vamps returned to his home in Los Angeles and quit his job at the marketing company so he could once again focus on the Siccness. Vamps and Curbie talked extensively about the direction of the site and decided a lot needed to be changed. The title 91Siccness.com no longer represented the site. The Siccness encompassed much more then just Sacramento and the decision to change the name to Siccness.net was made. The 91Siccness was now the Siccness Network, uniting all of rap’s underground in one place. But both Curbie and Vamps felt more needed to be changed and after careful consideration, they decided the Siccness would progress faster without Junior. Vamps immediately contacted B!tCH PLeAsE!, the web designer for pbmdesign.com and began working on the new layout of Siccness.net, unknown to Junior.
Five days prior to the launch of Siccness.net, Vamps and Curbie informed Junior of their decision and asked for the login information to the Vbulletin message board and the server which it was on. Junior gave up the information to the Vbulletin which Curbie owned, but said to give up the data contained on his server would be to waste a year of his life, meaning everything we had accumulated was gone. We would have to start from scratch.
2003 came and things changed, the partners who once contributed to the site really didnt help out anymore and things got so bad with the sites server bills and expenses that Vamps started thinking of selling the site. In early 2003 the server crashed again and the site came very close to losing it's 10+ members.
That was the final straw for Vamps he didn't want to deal with the stress of taking care of such a big site and possibly having to start over again with the board, so he sold the site to a close friend and distributor named Nemo. After about a week of the site being down, the data was recoverd and the site was back in business with a new owner.
Today is the new beginning of the Siccness. The same determination and revolutionary ideas are present and for the first time, we have the tools we need to make them a reality. Welcome to Siccness.net..
Vamps and Junior did not talk for the next several weeks. Vamps got a job working for a marketing company and was forced to work 72 hours a week and his role from the Siccness all but disappeared. Vamps went to Albuquerque, New Mexico on a business trip and called Junior for the first time in over a month to check on the site. Junior informed Vamps that the site was thriving and that Bayside Distribution was now officially represented on the Siccness. Junior had run the site for over a month by himself.
Vamps returned to his home in Los Angeles and quit his job at the marketing company so he could once again focus on the Siccness. Vamps and Curbie talked extensively about the direction of the site and decided a lot needed to be changed. The title 91Siccness.com no longer represented the site. The Siccness encompassed much more then just Sacramento and the decision to change the name to Siccness.net was made. The 91Siccness was now the Siccness Network, uniting all of rap’s underground in one place. But both Curbie and Vamps felt more needed to be changed and after careful consideration, they decided the Siccness would progress faster without Junior. Vamps immediately contacted B!tCH PLeAsE!, the web designer for pbmdesign.com and began working on the new layout of Siccness.net, unknown to Junior.
Five days prior to the launch of Siccness.net, Vamps and Curbie informed Junior of their decision and asked for the login information to the Vbulletin message board and the server which it was on. Junior gave up the information to the Vbulletin which Curbie owned, but said to give up the data contained on his server would be to waste a year of his life, meaning everything we had accumulated was gone. We would have to start from scratch.
2003 came and things changed, the partners who once contributed to the site really didnt help out anymore and things got so bad with the sites server bills and expenses that Vamps started thinking of selling the site. In early 2003 the server crashed again and the site came very close to losing it's 10+ members.
That was the final straw for Vamps he didn't want to deal with the stress of taking care of such a big site and possibly having to start over again with the board, so he sold the site to a close friend and distributor named Nemo. After about a week of the site being down, the data was recoverd and the site was back in business with a new owner.
Today is the new beginning of the Siccness. The same determination and revolutionary ideas are present and for the first time, we have the tools we need to make them a reality. Welcome to Siccness.net..
