When you pray at night..
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@ EMDE, WHAT I DONT GET ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU TYPE ABOUT THE, DEVIL THIS OR HELL THAT, THIS SEEMz TO BE THE MAIN POINT TO ALMOST ALL OF YOUR THREADz FOR SOME TIME. ANYWAY, IF YOU GABBIN ABOUT AND PERSONIFYIN THESE THINGz, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE DEVIL CAME FROM? IN TURN IT LEADz ME TO THINK THAT IF YOU "BELIEVE" IN THE DEVIL YOU MUST "BELIEVE" IN HIS CREATOR....SO....THIS THREAD OR YOUR POST, DONT MAKE SENSE.
well, it may be a theme your seeing in this forum.. but its hardly the main point of all my threads. Since you asked, My grandfather is a baptist minister, and was a missionarry thoughought india. This is where my "belief" in the devil began. As i grew older my mom told me storries of haight ashbary witches and wizards, and all about a cult that was born in 1966 in san francisco. I went though juvinille hall and boys camp all as a devout christian. Eventually my grandfather gave me his ultimate truth.. he told me "It is impossible to know the truth, all we can do is live our lives as best as we can." Here is where my belief in the devil/jesus died. I researched all the modern religions, and found that allthough they all have positive qualities.. the overall outcome of serving another god is to be a servant. Now i believe that I am cabable of being god or the devil.. because these are entities that live in my mind, and by "believing in the devil" I am really believing that I have the power to make anyone I consider a sinner suffer. At the same time I also have the power to grant wishes and answer prayers to those who are loyal.
ok, why pointing out the fact that the word "god" is an entitlement when we both know what i meant is beyond me... but anyway, so if you believe in a singular entity in which you were formed/created, and he set standards for you to live by and you knowningly DONT.. do you belive that you are "hell bound"?
It's the "collective unsconscious".
Read up on it....
Studies show that it's there....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
Read up on it....
Studies show that it's there....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
TROLL,
I BELIEVE HELL IS YOUR ACTUAL gRAVE. REPERCUSSIONS AND CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR DECISION IS PART OF WHAT YOU PAY FOR. BUT ULTIMATELY, DEATH AND A CUT OFF OF LIFE AND THE PROSPECT OF BEIN' RESURRECTED IS THE PRICE.
YOU STRESSED, " u believe that theres an entity that set forth standards but no repercussions on not following?.. "
I BELIEVE IN A HIgHER BEIN' AND HAVE FELT HIS PRESENCE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "i guess my question should be then why would he set forth a guideline if u dont have to follow it?"
WHO SAID YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT? I CHOOSE TO WILLINgLY SIN. I KNOW WHAT I'M CONFRONTIN' AND AWAITS IF I DON'T REPENT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "if theres a heaven but no hell does everybody get in??"
HELL NAW. HEAVEN WASN'T INTENDED FOR HUMAN INHABITANTS. I BELIEVE ONLY 144,000 HAVE THE RIgHT AND THE REST ARE DESTINED FOR AN EARTHLY HOPE. EARTH WAS MADE FOR A REASON, SO WHY WOULD (gOD) CHANgE HIS MIND?
I BELIEVE HELL IS YOUR ACTUAL gRAVE. REPERCUSSIONS AND CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR DECISION IS PART OF WHAT YOU PAY FOR. BUT ULTIMATELY, DEATH AND A CUT OFF OF LIFE AND THE PROSPECT OF BEIN' RESURRECTED IS THE PRICE.
YOU STRESSED, " u believe that theres an entity that set forth standards but no repercussions on not following?.. "
I BELIEVE IN A HIgHER BEIN' AND HAVE FELT HIS PRESENCE.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "i guess my question should be then why would he set forth a guideline if u dont have to follow it?"
WHO SAID YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT? I CHOOSE TO WILLINgLY SIN. I KNOW WHAT I'M CONFRONTIN' AND AWAITS IF I DON'T REPENT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "if theres a heaven but no hell does everybody get in??"
HELL NAW. HEAVEN WASN'T INTENDED FOR HUMAN INHABITANTS. I BELIEVE ONLY 144,000 HAVE THE RIgHT AND THE REST ARE DESTINED FOR AN EARTHLY HOPE. EARTH WAS MADE FOR A REASON, SO WHY WOULD (gOD) CHANgE HIS MIND?
In the Bible I believe it says that x amount of people from each tribe are going to be saved. I have not read the passage in many years so I might be way off, but thats what I recall. Jehovahs Witness preach the number thing pretty strong. If I had more time or interest i would find the passages and post them up. I am almost 100 % positive they are in Revelations
IT DOES SAY IN REVELATION THAT THE 12,000 FROM EACH TRIBE WILL PREACH TO THE UNBELIEVERz THAT HAVENT TAKEN THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION-(sp), THIS WONT KEEP US FROM HEVEN OR THE REWARDz IT BRINGz. WE WILL BE AS (=) AS THE NEXT PERSON IN HEVEN, IT DOES SAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE CROWNz FOR THE WINNING OF SOULz MEANING (LEADING PEOPLE TO A LIFE WITH CHRIST IN IT) THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND WIN SOULz/SPIRITz ITz JUST AN EXTRA, YOU WILL BE A NEW CREATION AND YOU WILL NEVER BE SAD OR THINK OF THINGz THAT TOOK PLACE ON EARTH IN A SENSE YOU WILL NOT BE YOURSELF NO MORE YOU WILL BE A PERFECT CREATION.