What would you have done in this situation..?

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Sep 28, 2004
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I pick up this kid on Thursdays from his AA meetings, or whatever.. he got into a car crash and totaled his car because he was drunk awhile back and he has to go to these classes every Thursday night till 8:30. I leave at 7:45 to get him. He gets free rides usually, unless he gives me a $5 now and then, sometimes a $10. But usually I do it out of the kindness of my heart and because he's got it rough. Divorced and has a kid that they share custody of. He's gotten dicked over a lot, and we've been friends for about two months now. The only thing that bugs me about him is his drinking, when he does drink.

I left at 7:45 as usual, but he's not out at 8:30. I wait. And wait. And wait. Finally at 9:01 he staggers out of the building and he looks fucked up. He gets into my car and he's drunk as fuck and explaining to me how no one understands what he's going through, and that he got sent home from work early yesterday for being drunk. He's really depressed and upset. So as I put my car into Drive, he tells me to make the first left that I possibly can ( which is not our usual route) and I ask why. He doesn't answer right away, but after a minute says that he's left "something he wasn't supposed to have in class in some back alley around there" and that he wants to go get it. So I miss the first left because of traffic and we drive around while he gives me shitty, drunken directions. I am pretty upset at this point because he's not really talking and he's really drunk. So then we get to this one-way off road and he tells me to pull over on the left, so I do. Then he gets out of my car and says, " please wait for me.." and walks off down this alley.

I wait. And Wait.. And wait... It's like 9:20 before I see him come back out of the alley, and he just walks right in front of me with his hands in the air and goes down ANOTHER alley.. I wait, and wait and wait and wait and then at almost 9:45 he comes out of that alley and goes back down the ORIGINAL one he had gone down before. And now I really wait. I don't want to leave because:
1) He said " Please don't leave me."
2) I don't know my way around this area at all.

It's now 10:30 and I am freaking out because I have to get a few hours of sleep before work, and I am illegally parked next to a meter that I have no coins for. I'm just sitting in my car, on a side street, at night. And people keep walking past my car looking in at me. That didn't bother me, but the same cop slowed down and eyed me like three times. At this point I call my room mate and explain why I am not home yet. Usually when I pick up this kid I end up home at 9:30. It's now 10:30. She tells me I should bounce, and that I should call the Non Emergency police because he IS drunk, maybe something bad happened to him. And also so maybe a cop will come give me directions. Most important, she tells me to stay IN my car. I am now getting really worried, and I spend about 5 minutes on the phone with her conveying this. I am really freaked out and I feel bad that I woke her up or kept her up.

At around 11 I am really upset. I keep looking back and forth between the alleys and he is no where to be seen. Then I do what my room mate told me NOT to do.. I get OUT of my car, lock it and walk into the alley a little bit. It's not that dark, and there's actually a building back there. But no Josh. So I go back to my car and call the Non Emergency Police. NOT HELPFUL AT ALL. The lady asked me why I wanted the police. I said because I was lost and my friend was missing. She asked me " Why do you want the police for that?" Then she asked me his name and I only know his first name very well. His last name he never uses, because he swapped it with his mother's maiden name because he hates his father's side. Therefore, I look like an idiot again. She tells me that there is no crime, so there isn't a reason to send anyone down. And that I should probably leave because he can't be "up to any good in those alleys". So then I explain that he has been drinking and it's been almost two hours since he wandered off. She doesn't seem phased.

No help at all.

So now it's almost 11:30 so I give up. I give up... I feel so horrible about this, because I might've abandoned a friend to die... I might have abandoned him in the city and now he's going to be late for work, or dead or hurt or hating me, or drunk and passed out in the street.. or lost.. I cried really bad about this. ( I'm sometimes a real girl, forgive me.) It kept me awake last night for a long while when I need my sleep so badly.

I pulled out, got onto some road and started driving. I tried to pay attention to street signs but I didn't recognize any. So I called information and got someone to give me directions from a Hollywood Video. I got home near 12:10 and went to bed.

Did I do the right thing? I know I did something terrible... I fucked someone over... I am a horrible person... I just couldn't wait any longer. I couldn't.. I have work, and I was tired, and I wasn't supposed to be PARKED there, and he was gone forever and NOT showing up..

He doesn't have a cell phone or anything either.. I left a message at his house explaining why I did what I did.. God.. I left him in the city at night... I am horrible...

This shit is really bothering me. It wasn't the best neighborhood either. Not bad, but not really amazing..

What would you have done if someone kept you waiting in your car at night for two hours when you had work in the morning?
 

Ne Obliviscaris

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did YOU do something? are you serious? im not going to be able to sleep at night myself worrying about that poor cluck you left to fend for himself on the mean streets. you are a codl hearted bitch.
 
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Crow-- I understand helping out a 'friend' .. someone who youve known for hella.. someone who would be there for YOU thru good and bad... but IMO.. this is someone that is going thru it and is taking advantage of your soft heart... having a soft heart isnt a bad thing UNLESS it has you driving a drunk man around looking for who knows what and leaving you to walk around a DARK ALLEY LATE AT NIGHT-- ease up on yourself girl-- you definately did more than any one of us would have done..
It sounds as if the man has some problems-- you cant save him.. he can only save himself.
 
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If you're planning on "helping" this guy out on the regular for a long time maybe you should think about hitting up an Alanon meeting for relatives/friends of people that go to AA or abuse substances. It sounds like he doesn't need any more enabling.
 

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Crow, your heart was in the right place. I'm sure you didn't mean to enable him in any way. Chalk it up to now you know that this guy needs more help than you can give. He wasn't too worried about being left out in the city, drunk, with no ride then you shouldn't either. If anything this situation shows that you have the qualities of a great friend, its just too bad that he's to messed up to appreciate it.
 
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I understand why you feel bad... but the actuallity of it is, he placed you in whut could of been a dangerous situation. You worried so much about him, and he did'nt worry about you. How does one feel picking up a drunk person from a place he's suppose to go for help with being drunk? He left you in a bad prediciment, with no worry for your kindness or safety. It looks like your Cons outweigh your Pro's on this one. The "girl" in you still worries about him, because 2 wrongs don't make a right.
 

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You waited over 2 hrs for this schmuck to find "something" in an ally. Fuck him. as far as friends go you went above and beyond the call of duty. And if he's in AA he should be drinking in the first place. I think you shouldnt be loosing any sleep over this. I agree he does have it rough (in his mind) but you cant just be there to wipe his ass every second. You should have listened to your instinct, anything he "has" to leave in an ally, you dont need to be a part of.
 
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No way would I have waited that long for someone I’ve only known for 2 months. It seems you did a lot more than most people would have for a drunk, and this whole ordeal has really made you upset.

You can never blame yourself for a drunk mans mistakes. He is a drunk, that’s his problem, not you who is obviously trying to help him out. The only thing you can do is try to be a friend and offer support, the rest is up to him. He needs to make the decision within himself whether he wants to quit. Until he does, he will continue being a drunk a fucking up people’s days/nights/lives, etc.
 
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First off, I wish all of my friends were like you crow. Secondly, fuck that dude. He sounds like the type of cat that will have to hit bottom, and it sounds like his is deep down. You don't want to be around for that. Help him as much as you can, but like Coldblooded said, don't enable him, ie. driving to alleyways when he is shitfaced. Stand up to him and be firm, and take him home, and if he becomes abusive towards you, stop driving him. You're a good hearted person, but don't let him take advantage of that.
 
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My fear right now is that he never got home or that I fucked up his life more by not waiting longer or LOOKING for him. For all I know, he passed out in an alley and woke up 10 minutes after I left. Then he couldn't get home, and wasn't able to get to work today. He's on thin ice there to begin with for coming in drunk once or twice. My worst fear is that he got hurt, or died somehow. I haven't had any contact yet, ( he can't call me with the cell phone plan he has ) but I am expecting an email. If he is OK and still expects rides home from his classes, I may catch a lot of shit from my friends who think it's unwise now. I wish I could help people.
 
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CannibalCrow said:
My fear right now is that I fucked up his life more by not waiting longer or LOOKING for him.
That's rediculous. As long as you stay with this frame of mind you will be a sucker for this cat forever. You'll be the one bailing him out, you'll be the one taking him to his weekend work program, and you'll ultimately be the one who gets fucked when he betrays your trust again and again...Be a support for him, not a crutch...good luck.
 
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CannibalCrow said:
My fear right now is that he never got home or that I fucked up his life more by not waiting longer or LOOKING for him.
He is the one that fucked up his life, not you. You didn’t walk down an ally. He was the one that put you in that fucked up situation in the first place. If anything, you should be pissed at him for making you wait 2 hours or whatever it was, alone and in an unfamiliar place.

From this post and other posts of yours in the past, it seems you let people do shit to you, and you somehow feel like it's your fault.
 
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I had ( and sometimes still do have ) a habit of trying to take care of the wounded and distraught. I feel obligated to, and I feel guilty when I fail someone somehow. I don't know why. I'm working on that, since it's part of my personality. I used to say " I'm sorry " whenever anything negative was expressed, even if it wasn't about anything I did. I have no idea why... Psychology was always something I've wanted to go into. Mostly to find out why I do the things I do, and allow certain people into my life.
 
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Crow... let's be friends.

Honestly, do you think he said "Damn, I'm drunk and I left my friend who helps me all by "HER"self. I hope SHE doesn't get approached, or a ticket for parking where SHE parked. I hope I don't make HER late for HER job, and make HER worry about me." if you don't think he's thinking that, than don't stress. He obviously wasn't concerned about your saftey or lifestyle.

By the way, can I borrow $100.00? My lights got cut off because I spent all my money on purple and Remy.
 
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In retrospect I can see that he didn't care about my situation at the time. Thanks everyone..

Still no contact, but oh well.

I'm poor lately anyway, so I was having issues with gas money picking him up when he didn't pay me.