What could the U.S. do about Russia?

[MooreBlock530]

and im not sure about it (i was 11 or 12 when he first was in office) but hasnt unemployement rates been lowerd signifcantly too?

i do agree that he is near the worst president in history....although i give the nod to hoover from what i read about those times....its suprising the country made it outta that

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

kicking the taliban/al qaeda ass....to the point of near extinction

i thought his leadership post 9-11 was decent.......i couldnt imagine what it woulda been like had bill clinton still be in office...

his stance against illegal immigrants....although not solid atleast hes doing something about a growing problem....

LOL AT KICK THE TALIBANS ASS, WHEN THEY STILL IN BUSINESS!!! THEY COULDNT EVEN CATCH OSAMA. WHEN HE WAS POSTED, HAVING A CAPPUCINO DOWN THE BLOCK FROM CHUCK NORRIS AND HIS DELTA FORCE...AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST DEADLIEST ARMY IN THE WORLD.

AND ATTACKING IRAQ AFTER 9-11 WAS BRILLIANT! LETS START ANOTHER WAR, BEFORE WE EVEN SHUT DOWN THE ENEMY CAMP...THATS HOW HITLER FUCKED GERMANY BY STARTING WAR WITH RUSSIA WHILE FIGHTING THE ALLIED FORCES...
AND IF HE REALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, HE WOULD HEAVILY FINE THESE BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY THESE IMMIGRANTS. SO THERE WOULDNT BE ANY EMPLOYERS WANTING TO HIRE ANYONE ILLEGAL THUS ELIMINATING ANY INCENTIVE TO WANT TO CROSS ANY BORDERS.

 

[MooreBlock530]

nazi's are still in business in numbers too.....doesnt mean they are a threat to US....untill we have another attack on american soil (which is pretty much gurannteed) then george bush has done a good job in that aspect.....

immigrants would still cross the border.....a lot of em use fake IDs and work under the table for businesses that couldnt be fined like lil ass construction businesses....his stance isnt solid but atleast hes putting light to the problem....im not sure which of the last presidents have but it IS a growing problem

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

Probably the dumbest thing I've read from you yet on here.

how so? in case you missed my point..... we are the big brother to the world. period. things move as we see fit. i would love to turn a blind eye on what other nations do. but unfortunately its not possible. we have to be the over seer of everything that happens. russia wouldnt last in a war with us, because we wouldnt treat them like iraq. they would get the big business. so a couple days ago we issue a statement saying back down and knock off the bullshit, and they do. then they do some little kid throw a rock brake the truce and get back in the news....... name a country that openly wants it with us. and i do not support or like bush 1 bit. fuck him. but i am for us being big brother and keeping whats left of this piece of shit planet in line. i support our military. and was in the army myself. so i can speak how and to who ever with my opinions with a clear conscience. so please miss me with the stupidity talk guy. these are my opinions. and if they aren't right so what fuck off! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

nazi's are still in business in numbers too.....doesnt mean they are a threat to US....untill we have another attack on american soil (which is pretty much gurannteed) then george bush has done a good job in that aspect.....

immigrants would still cross the border.....a lot of em use fake IDs and work under the table for businesses that couldnt be fined like lil ass construction businesses....his stance isnt solid but atleast hes putting light to the problem....im not sure which of the last presidents have but it IS a growing problem

YEA BUT HITLER DONT EXIST ANYMORE AND THE NAZIS ARENT EVEN A FACTOR IN GERMANY AT ALL. THEY ONLY EXIST IN THEORY AND NOT IN ACTIONS, COMPARED TO THE TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA WHO ARE STILL BATTLING U.S. FORCES. AND STILL HAVE CONTROL OVER CERTAIN REGIONS IN AFGHANISTAN. NOT TOO MENTION IN OTHER REGIONS AND IN IRAQ DOING DIRT. BUT THE WAR WAS DECLARED ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ (LOL)

AS FOR IMMIGRANTS.
TELL ME IF A SMALL CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS CAUGHT A HEAVY FINE THEY'D STILL BE USING IMMIGRANTS? HELL NO!!! THEY WOULDNT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. IT BE CHEAPER TO HIRE CITIZENS AND BE LEGIT. THW WHOLE IMMIGRANT ISSUE IS BULLSHIT. IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THEY WOULD HAVE BUT IF YOU THINK OUR ECONOMY IS BAD? IT WOULD REALLY BE BAD WITHOUT ANY IMMIGRANTS...NO FREE TAXES WHICH THEY COULD NEVER CLAIM OR DIRT CHEAP LABOR.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

how so? in case you missed my point..... we are the big brother to the world. period. things move as we see fit. i would love to turn a blind eye on what other nations do. but unfortunately its not possible. we have to be the over seer of everything that happens. russia wouldnt last in a war with us, because we wouldnt treat them like iraq. they would get the big business. so a couple days ago we issue a statement saying back down and knock off the bullshit, and they do. then they do some little kid throw a rock brake the truce and get back in the news....... name a country that openly wants it with us. and i do not support or like bush 1 bit. fuck him. but i am for us being big brother and keeping whats left of this piece of shit planet in line. i support our military. and was in the army myself. so i can speak how and to who ever with my opinions with a clear conscience. so please miss me with the stupidity talk guy. these are my opinions. and if they aren't right so what fuck off! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

YOU MUST BE A BIG CORN FED WHITEBOY HUH?

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

YOU MUST BE A BIG CORN FED WHITEBOY HUH?

not just big, but hella big corn fed whiteboy....... and that means what?

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

not just big, but hella big corn fed whiteboy....... and that means what?

YOU SOUND LIKE ONE!!!

 

[Syko Sniper]

kicking the taliban/al qaeda ass....to the point of near extinction

so then why are they still in iraq/afganistan?

 

[MooreBlock530]

YEA BUT HITLER DONT EXIST ANYMORE AND THE NAZIS ARENT EVEN A FACTOR IN GERMANY AT ALL. THEY ONLY EXIST IN THEORY AND NOT IN ACTIONS, COMPARED TO THE TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA WHO ARE STILL BATTLING U.S. FORCES. AND STILL HAVE CONTROL OVER CERTAIN REGIONS IN AFGHANISTAN. NOT TOO MENTION IN OTHER REGIONS AND IN IRAQ DOING DIRT.
TELL ME IF A SMALL CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS CAUGHT A HEAVY FINE THEY'D STILL USING IMMIGRANTS? HELL NO!!! THEY WOULDNT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. IT BE CHEAPER TO HIRE CITIZENS AND BE LEGIT. THW WHOLE IMMIGRANT ISSUE IS BULLSHIT. IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THEY WOULD HAVE BUT IF YOU THINK OUR ECONOMY IS BAD? IT WOULD REALLY BE BAD WITHOUT ANY IMMIGRANTS...NO FREE TAXES WHICH THEY COULD NEVER CLAIM OR DIRT CHEAP LABOR.

all the paisas i know have fake SS....dead old "legit" relatives or people they have no relation to...

if illegal immigration would be eliminated at once instance our econmey wouldnt crumble...americans are doer people...if it was a crisis teens would be out picking flowers off the watermelons during the summer....i was doing it at 13 years old......

it doesnt matter if the leader of the group is taken out......because the next leader will be crowned...nazi's was an werid example.....but leave any extremist group alone for years in and years out they WILL build up the numbers to fight....the taliban and al qaida WERE a problem before bush and will be a problem after bush.....but hes the only one so far to weed em out....

i think we are safer as a country now then with clinton....kill first or be killed idealogy is pretty heavy.......but i dont want to be their next victim

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

YOU SOUND LIKE ONE!!!

well what am i supposed to sound like? a mexican dodger/angels fan?

 

[MooreBlock530]

so then why are they still in iraq/afganistan?

because the fuck ups in thier own country couldnt handle the small percent left...hence the word "near".....they will allways be a threat as long as thier crazy ass mind frame is there.....but im glad that thousands if not 100s of thousands of those low lifes are with thier praised "allah"

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

well what am i supposed to sound like? a mexican dodger/angels fan?

IF IT BUTTERS YOUR BISCUITS!!!

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

IF IT BUTTERS YOUR BISCUITS!!!

classic!!!! carry on guy......

 

[Syko Sniper]

all the paisas i know have fake SS....dead old "legit" relatives or people they have no relation to...

if illegal immigration would be eliminated at once instance our econmey wouldnt crumble...americans are doer people...if it was a crisis teens would be out picking flowers off the watermelons during the summer....i was doing it at 13 years old......

it doesnt matter if the leader of the group is taken out......because the next leader will be crowned...nazi's was an werid example.....but leave any extremist group alone for years in and years out they WILL build up the numbers to fight....the taliban and al qaida WERE a problem before bush and will be a problem after bush.....but hes the only one so far to weed em out....

i think we are safer as a country now then with clinton....kill first or be killed idealogy is pretty heavy.......but i dont want to be their next victim

no, you are not safer, what the US has now is a false sense of security mixed in with mass paranioa spread by the media.

And I know I might get alot of hate from this next comment, but when was the last time America actually won a war? Vietnam, korea, cuba, iraq..? victories? I don't think so.

What the Americans (you guys) excel at is overthrowing governments, setting up pawns/puppets, getting a stranglehold on basically everything and this all comes down to being one of the most Strategic nations in history after WW2.

 

[ColdBlooded]

how so?

It was until this one. Your initial reply showed a lack of understanding of basic geopolitical structure, international security organizations, U.S./Russian/Georgian international relations & domestic politics, military power, etc, etc, etc. This one just reinforces it.

russia wouldnt last in a war with us, because we wouldnt treat them like iraq. they would get the big business.

That's why reading threads is helpful. This has been discussed. Russia wouldn't last in a war with the U.S., but the U.S. wouldn't last in a war with Russia either. The U.S. in its current capacity could in no way "win" a war against Russia, without itself, being totally wiped off the map.

so a couple days ago we issue a statement saying back down and knock off the bullshit, and they do.

connecting the two is a fatal flaw in your "logic"

so please miss me with the stupidity talk guy. these are my opinions. and if they aren't right so what fuck off!

You are entitled to your opinions. The problem is they seem not to be informed by fact, reality, nor educated thought on the subject.

 

[Syko Sniper]

because the fuck ups in thier own country couldnt handle the small percent left...hence the word "near".....they will allways be a threat as long as thier crazy ass mind frame is there.....but im glad that thousands if not 100s of thousands of those low lifes are with thier praised "allah"

That comes across as very one sided and uninformed. If you research a bit more or speak to people living in Iraq in this day, you might have a different view. Iraq govt right now does what America tells them, please don't think anything different.

 

[WXS STOMP3R]

all the paisas i know have fake SS....dead old "legit" relatives or people they have no relation to...

if illegal immigration would be eliminated at once instance our econmey wouldnt crumble...americans are doer people...if it was a crisis teens would be out picking flowers off the watermelons during the summer....i was doing it at 13 years old......

it doesnt matter if the leader of the group is taken out......because the next leader will be crowned...nazi's was an werid example.....but leave any extremist group alone for years in and years out they WILL build up the numbers to fight....the taliban and al qaida WERE a problem before bush and will be a problem after bush.....but hes the only one so far to weed em out....

i think we are safer as a country now then with clinton....kill first or be killed idealogy is pretty heavy.......but i dont want to be their next victim

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PLAIN AND SIMPLE CAN BE STOPPED BUT IT HAS TO START WITH THE SOURCE!!! WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM PLAIN AND SIMPLE. OTHER RICH COUNTRIES HAVE MORE BORDERS THAN US ,BUT REALLY DONT HAVE THIS PROBLEM SO GO FIGURE.BUT THERE'S TOO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED SO IT AINT HAPPENING.



AND YES IF YOU DO LEAVE ANY GROUP TO THEIR OWN, THEY WILL BUILD UP. A GOOD REASON WHY BUSH SHOULD HAVE USED THE INTELLIGENCE THEY RECEIVED BEFORE 911, GIVEN TO HIM ( I BELEIVE BY HIS OWN SECRETARY OF DEFENSE AT THE TIME) TO APPREHEND THESE CONSPIRATORS. 911 WAS NO SECRET TO OUR CIA OR ANYONE IN THE INTELLIGENCE BIZ. THIS GUY JUST POO POO'D IT AND LET IT HAPPEN. THERE'S A BOOK WRITTEN BY A FORMER MEMBER OF THE WHITE HOUSE WHO RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THIS.
OUR ECONOMY IS IN BAD SHAPE, PEOPLE LOSING HOUSES, BUSINESSES GOING BANKRUPT,ETC
WHILE WE GOT TWO WARS GOING ON, WITH HALLIBURTON AND OTHER COMPANIES JUST TAKING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS LIKE CANDY FROM A BABY.
THAT PROGRESS FOR SOME BUT I DONT THINK ANYBODY ON THE SICC IS MAKING ANY DOUGH OFF OF IT.

 

[Syko Sniper]

WXS I like your idea about cracking down on illegals by going after the companies hiring them, but I think they need to be hit so hard that they wouldn't dare hire any as if they did it could potentially fuck up their biz

go for the pokcets, thats how most problems are solved.

 

[MooreBlock530]

That comes across as very one sided and uninformed. If you research a bit more or speak to people living in Iraq in this day, you might have a different view. Iraq govt right now does what America tells them, please don't think anything different.

im not neccisarly talking about thier goverment but more the people that are spouse to be protecting thier nation.....i have more then a few folks/family in that country and they say its rediculos that those people are off of hella opium and suffer WAYYYYYYYY more freindly fire casualties, innocent lives being taken and personal agendas by thier armed forces be it thier police or national gaurd or what ever they have....

if you talk to people that live real life over there.....and dont have an agenda to prove anything politcaly wise (like the people bloging or people on the news) you get a broader horizon of whats REALLY going on....

people writing to news papers and shit cant be taken seriously.....id rather listen to folks who i know will spit nothing but truth to my face about reality of the situation...