Wait... who goes to hell?

[n9newunsixx5150]

Heresy, if you want you can read Bhagavad-Gita chapter 11 that deals with this:

http://asitis.com/11/1.html

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

So 916 is Krisna Two People then both Having Universal Forms and Knowledge, WT HECK?!

Two people? Where did you get two from? Please explain.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

I did make a Mistake in the Statement that you cannot Distinguish themselves. Never the less, he's one in all. Jesus Constantly prayed to the Father, when He resurrected, the Holy Spirit Guided his Disciples.

That's fine. The same principle of variegatedness is present in what I follow. Only thing is that you say it is only 3 aspects of the one God. I say that there is more.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Please, once again, don't compare any other religion to Christianity. I'm not trying to be Big Headed, but I'd appreciate, if you not say there are similarities.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Please, once again, don't compare any other religion to Christianity. I'm not trying to be Big Headed, but I'd appreciate, if you not say there are similarities.

But there are similarities, and you want to attack the concept of God having various forms. Therefore I explain it using an example you are familiar with. The truth simply isn't palatable for you.

 

[HERESY]

Well, first of all, the universal form is not how Krsna "really looks". That is a common misconception. Krsna's form as cowherd by with blue color, two arms, flute - that is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and it is His eternal form of bliss and knowledge. Isvarah Paramah Krsnah Sat-Cit-Ananda Vigraha. Isvara and Parama refer to the Lord as Supreme Controller. Sat means eternal existence. Cit means knowledge. Ananda means bliss. And vigraha means form.

All forms of the Supreme Lord are one and the same Supreme Lord. Therefore there is no question, "Did the universal form have knowledge that the 2 armed version was showing the universal form to a devotee?"

The universal form is doing something different from Krsna's Personal form. That should be obvious. But that doesn't constitute an independence or a separation. Discernment is there. That's all.

Krsna showed Arjuna His universal form. Plain and simple. It wasn't some replicated vision, but it was certainly presented for the "vision" of Arjuna.

You still don't get what I'm asking. Did he show him a vision or did he show him the actual form and was the form doing something totally different from the 2 armed form? I understand that you believe all forms are the same, but what I am asking is if this was a VISION?

Lets say God came to earth and talked to billy bob. Lets say God also showed Billy bob what God looks like in heaven. Since God is omnipresent and can be in two places at once God can talk to billy bob, talk to mrs.smith and still sit in heaven all at the same time. What I am asking you is was the form that was shown ANIMATE or was it simply a vision?

 

[HERESY]

Nope. When Jesus Suffered do you not agree so did the father and the Holy spirit? Not Independent, because if so, then I'm discrediting John 1:1 right?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

What is your definition of suffer? I still don't get your position.

 

[EDJ]

STOCTON,
I AM NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LABELIN' ME. AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN. YOU ARE NOT MEEK AT ALL. YOU A WANNA-BE CHRITIAN THAT JUST FOLLOWS MAN-MADE DOgMAS.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

YOU ARE NOT MEEK AT ALL. YOU A WANNA-BE CHRITIAN THAT JUST FOLLOWS MAN-MADE DOgMAS.

And pointing this out makes you meek?

 

[HERESY]

STOCTON,
I AM NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LABELIN' ME. AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN. YOU ARE NOT MEEK AT ALL. YOU A WANNA-BE CHRITIAN THAT JUST FOLLOWS MAN-MADE DOgMAS.

What part (s) of the JW doctrine (s) and dogma (s) do you NOT adhere to/believe in?

 

[2-0-NINE]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

What is your definition of suffer? I still don't get your position.

Later doesn't it say 1:14 The Word was made Flesh, which was Christ. I made a mistake in Stating they they are Someone Seperate but still make up God. Please feel free to make any corrections to what you feel are my mistakes.

 

[2-0-NINE]

STOCTON,
I AM NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LABELIN' ME. AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN. YOU ARE NOT MEEK AT ALL. YOU A WANNA-BE CHRITIAN THAT JUST FOLLOWS MAN-MADE DOgMAS.

What Dogma do I follow that is Man Made.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

What part (s) of the JW doctrine (s) and dogma (s) do you NOT adhere to/believe in?

Going door to door.

 

[2-0-NINE]

@EDJ, don't deny being a JW. That's why everytime these JW come over my house to preach me crap, and once I pull out the bible, they just give me their non-sense Magazines and Run Away huh?

 

[HERESY]

Going door to door.

I almost fell out my chair. :hurt: But nah, I think I remember EDJ saying that was cool because they had good intentions.

 

[2-0-NINE]

I almost fell out my chair. :hurt: But nah, I think I remember EDJ saying that was cool because they had good intentions.

Yeah how they brainwashed my Aunt into giving them 50 dollars a month, so they can give us our Family tree !

 

[2-0-NINE]

Which they never did!

 

[HERESY]

Later doesn't it say 1:14 The Word was made Flesh, which was Christ. I made a mistake in Stating they they are Someone Seperate but still make up God. Please feel free to make any corrections to what you feel are my mistakes.

Are you saying that YESHI is RAUCH HAKODESH and that YESHI is YHWH?

 

[HERESY]

Which they never did!

LOL

 

[2-0-NINE]

Are you saying that YESHI is RAUCH HAKODESH and that YESHI is YHWH?

I don't believe he's Ruach HaKodesh, or God the Father, but I believe the Name Yahweh, he gave to moses.