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Ok, I believe this, they are not seperate of Each other but Rather, the Trinity is Jesus God the Son, or God Manifested in Man but still God. The Holy Spirit works through the Father and the Son. Through the Father and Yeshua, the Holy Spirit is Worshipped.
 
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HERESY said:
You still don't get what I'm asking. Did he show him a vision or did he show him the actual form and was the form doing something totally different from the 2 armed form? I understand that you believe all forms are the same, but what I am asking is if this was a VISION?

Lets say God came to earth and talked to billy bob. Lets say God also showed Billy bob what God looks like in heaven. Since God is omnipresent and can be in two places at once God can talk to billy bob, talk to mrs.smith and still sit in heaven all at the same time. What I am asking you is was the form that was shown ANIMATE or was it simply a vision?
It was animate.
 
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Stockton209SS said:
Cause I don't know how he can Trick us into being his Devotees, if we can freely choose to Be Devoted to him or not!
Why is it you think tricking and choosing are mutually exclusive?

"God has tricked us into becoming His devotees!"

is equal to:

"God has tricked us into choosing to become His devotees!"

Tricking does not mean forcing. If it was a matter of force then God wouldn't have to trick.

Is there something wrong with God tricking people?
 
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Hemp said:
^what if he was a false God/Prophet? would it matter then?
Or what if it was the Devil? Same answer. Yes, it would matter. But where do you think the devil (and anyone else) gets that ability to trick? Everything comes from God. The difference is that God may trick for our benefit whereas the Devil (or a false prophet) tricks for some alterior motivation. So we have to be careful of such things.
 

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i dont believe the devil exists, but i understand you.
i dont know if it will be that easy to convince me of being God or a prophet these days. especially since if they werent false, i still would believe they are only divine men. so no attachment would exist between me and a man as the one between me and the source/creator