Wait... who goes to hell?

[n9newunsixx5150]

In that pic Krsna is speaking with Arjuna and it is obvious that Arjuna is in awe or worshipping (by the way his hands are held.) Now, here is the question. Is Krsna independent of the Universal form or is he showing him a vision?

The universal form is considered an expansion of Krsna, although He is Personally independent of the universe. Arjuna is in awe and even fear because the universal form is very fearsome. He offers his obeisances unto the Lord out of awe, but then asks that he may see Krsna in His two-armed form again because it is pleasing to the eyes.

 

[2-0-NINE]

THAT'S WHY I LOVE JESUS, HE'S MORE STATIC THEN HE IS DYNAMIC. NEVER CHANGING, ONLY ONE FORM, AND IS ALWAYS WHAT HE IS! I AM THAT I AM, YHWH, OR EHYEH ASHER EHYEH I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE! SH4OOOOW!!!!

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

Here's a kind of crazy Question, how can you make a Picture of something that Has Universal knowledge. Since we obviously don't have Universal Knowledge, how can these Artists know how Kristna Looks Like, and If it's not the Right Portrayal of HE/SHE won't that offend SHIM(she/him) if the Picture is not right of SHIM?

What does "universal knowledge" have to do with drawing Krsna? Krsna is the two-armed form with the flute and bluish color. This is in accordance with authoritive Scripture.

And I already explained that the pic of the universal form is simply a rendition. Will we offend God for attempting to draw the universal form? No.

 

[2-0-NINE]

That's the Difference between The Three Major Mono-Theistic Faiths, THEIR GOD NEVER CHANGES!

 

[2-0-NINE]

What does "universal knowledge" have to do with drawing Krsna? Krsna is the two-armed form with the flute and bluish color. This is in accordance with authoritive Scripture.

And I already explained that the pic of the universal form is simply a rendition. Will we offend God for attempting to draw the universal form? No.

So what if someone accidentally painted Krisna with a Booger, will that offend Her?

 

[HERESY]

So what if someone accidentally painted Krisna with a Booger, will that offend Her?

Ha!

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

THAT'S WHY I LOVE JESUS, HE'S MORE STATIC THEN HE IS DYNAMIC. NEVER CHANGING, ONLY ONE FORM, AND IS ALWAYS WHAT HE IS! I AM THAT I AM, YHWH, OR EHYEH ASHER EHYEH I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE! SH4OOOOW!!!!

Only one form... that you know of.

But being One God and having various forms are not mutually exclusive concepts. God's oneness does not limit Him. You think of oneness too materialistically. You are one and you are unable to expand into multiple forms. Therefore you apply this limitation to God's oneness. If you believe that there is God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, then you already believe in some degree of multiplicity. So simply apply that same philosophy here, but think of numbers larger than 3.

 

[2-0-NINE]

No I don't once Again I'm up for argument, but not at this moment. God is not three forms, He's A Trinity, not 3 different beings, not three different men THAT POWER UP TO BECOME GOD like your typical Chinese animation or whatever you call it. He's God the Father, and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and there's nothing that can distinguish a difference amongt them. Must I go scripture on your Krisna Self?

 

[HERESY]

The universal form is considered an expansion of Krsna, although He is Personally independent of the universe. Arjuna is in awe and even fear because the universal form is very fearsome. He offers his obeisances unto the Lord out of awe, but then asks that he may see Krsna in His two-armed form again because it is pleasing to the eyes.

No, I don't think you understand my question so let me try to explain it some more. When Krsna is showing Arjuna his universal form, is the universal form that is being shown independent of Krsna? Is the two armed version SEPERATE from the universal one? Was the universal form actually doing something different from the 2 armed version? Did the universal form have knowledge that the 2 armed version was showing the universal form to a devotee?

Basically, what I'm asking is did he basically say "heres how I really look" and show him an image or vision, or did he say heres how I really look and the universal form actually moved and did things on its own?

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

So what if someone accidentally painted Krisna with a Booger, will that offend Her?

Her? The booger?

No, actually the booger would be quite blessed, especially if coming from the Supreme Lord's nose.

The real answer to your poorly worded question is that devotees do not draw or paint anything that is not explained in the Sastra (Vedic Scripture). Adding our own speculation on the matter is condemned. Of course, certain details may differ. Krishna's cheek bones may be higher or lower in different paintings, or His coloration may be lighter or darker. But these things make no difference.

 

[2-0-NINE]

So 916 is Krisna Two People then both Having Universal Forms and Knowledge, WT HECK?!

 

[2-0-NINE]

Her? The booger?

No, actually the booger would be quite blessed, especially if coming from the Supreme Lord's nose.

The real answer to your poorly worded question is that devotees do not draw or paint anything that is not explained in the Sastra (Vedic Scripture). Adding our own speculation on the matter is condemned. Of course, certain details may differ. Krishna's cheek bones may be higher or lower in different paintings, or His coloration may be lighter or darker. But these things make no difference.

:dead:

 

[HERESY]

No I don't once Again I'm up for argument, but not at this moment. God is not three forms, He's A Trinity, not 3 different beings, not three different men THAT POWER UP TO BECOME GOD like your typical Chinese animation or whatever you call it. He's God the Father, and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and there's nothing that can distinguish a difference amongt them. Must I go scripture on your Krisna Self?

So wait, let me get this straight. Are you saying God plays different roles at different times? Are you saying God played the role of Jesus and later played the role of the holy spirit?

 

[2-0-NINE]

No I'm saying God Played them all at the Same Time.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[HERESY]

Man I have to step away for like an hour. God played them all at the same time? So you are saying they are independent of each other?

 

[2-0-NINE]

Nope. When Jesus Suffered do you not agree so did the father and the Holy spirit? Not Independent, because if so, then I'm discrediting John 1:1 right?

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

No I don't once Again I'm up for argument, but not at this moment.

You say as you proceed to argue.

God is not three forms, He's A Trinity, not 3 different beings,

"Three forms" does not equal "3 different beings". Maybe you don't like the word "form". Fine. Don't get your semantic panties in a twist. It is 3 "forms" or capacities of the same one God.

not three different men THAT POWER UP TO BECOME GOD like your typical Chinese animation or whatever you call it.

Wow. You and I have a lot in common. I also do not believe in three different men that power up to become God. Actually, no one becomes God. God is eternally God. He does not become, HE IS.

By the way, I didn't even know I had a "Chinese animation". Is this an early Christmas present? Seriously though, I have NO idea what you're talking about.

He's God the Father, and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, and there's nothing that can distinguish a difference amongt them.

Yes. They are non-different from each other. That doesn't mean they can't be distinguished from each other. Actually, you just did it by referring to them as "God the Father, and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit".

Must I go scripture on your Krisna Self?

Have at it. You're really not teaching me anything I am not already aware of though.

 

[2-0-NINE]

I did make a Mistake in the Statement that you cannot Distinguish themselves. Never the less, he's one in all. Jesus Constantly prayed to the Father, when He resurrected, the Holy Spirit Guided his Disciples.

 

[n9newunsixx5150]

No, I don't think you understand my question so let me try to explain it some more. When Krsna is showing Arjuna his universal form, is the universal form that is being shown independent of Krsna? Is the two armed version SEPERATE from the universal one? Was the universal form actually doing something different from the 2 armed version? Did the universal form have knowledge that the 2 armed version was showing the universal form to a devotee?

Basically, what I'm asking is did he basically say "heres how I really look" and show him an image or vision, or did he say heres how I really look and the universal form actually moved and did things on its own?

Well, first of all, the universal form is not how Krsna "really looks". That is a common misconception. Krsna's form as cowherd by with blue color, two arms, flute - that is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and it is His eternal form of bliss and knowledge. Isvarah Paramah Krsnah Sat-Cit-Ananda Vigraha. Isvara and Parama refer to the Lord as Supreme Controller. Sat means eternal existence. Cit means knowledge. Ananda means bliss. And vigraha means form.

All forms of the Supreme Lord are one and the same Supreme Lord. Therefore there is no question, "Did the universal form have knowledge that the 2 armed version was showing the universal form to a devotee?"

The universal form is doing something different from Krsna's Personal form. That should be obvious. But that doesn't constitute an independence or a separation. Discernment is there. That's all.

Krsna showed Arjuna His universal form. Plain and simple. It wasn't some replicated vision, but it was certainly presented for the "vision" of Arjuna.