Violence Plaguing San Francisco Night Life

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Oct 21, 2006
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yeah a lotta the shit on this page is probably true. stupid people who dont know how to act, got no game, trip off of dumb broads, the cheap e pills with meth and who knows what else in em, the alcohol, parkin lot pimpin.

The city of san francisco was trying to ban residents owning private guns for protection etc. The law was over ruled.
that's the dumbest shit ever. 2nd amendement. but anyway, people dont legally own the guns anyway, so what the fuck is a ban gonna do!? lol. And "they" the ones who get the guns in the country in the first place!! lol
 
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Forum today(thursday 1/17/08) in San Francisco at the Bill Graham Civic Center.
Video:http://www.ktvu.com/news/15080903/detail.html
Summit Addresses Rising Violence At SF Nightclubs

POSTED: 8:44 pm PST January 17, 2008
SAN FRANCISCO -- A rash of violence involving San Francisco nightclubs has prompted the city to hold an unusual Nightlife Safety Summit on Thursday that brought together club owners, police, promoters and even patrons in the hopes of finding a solution.Numerous fights and at least two homicides have taken place in or near several San Francisco clubs since the start of the new year.
Late Thursday afternoon, city leaders wrapped up a meeting at the Bill Graham Civic Center between bar owners and others in the entertainment industry who attended the summit to discuss ways to put an end to late night violence."There are issues out there and there are problems that we want to address," said Entertainment Commission member Robert G. Davis.It was a packed house at Thursday's first ever nightlife safety summit. Members of San Francisco entertainment commission met with local bar owners, night club security personnel, club goers and police to address the problems that have plagued SF area night clubs since the start of 2008."We've heard of incidents resulting in injuries or fatalities around areas where people are coming to have a great time," explained San Francisco Police Chief Heather Fong.

Police say two women were attacked outside city nights on Harrison Street. Another club patron was badly injured when a fight inside club Vessel spilled outside.In addition, two people have been murdered after leaving area nightclubs. One club owner at the event says he hopes people understand that crime happening inside the club is a result of what is going on in society."Crime is pretty much everywhere and not just in the clubs," said Sean Manchester, owner of the 15th Street dance club Mighty.Police say there is a lack of communication between them and club owners which they hope Thursday's summit will eliminate.
"The answers and the solutions are in this room. The laws are there; we can come down hard," said Police Chief Fong.City leaders say the event was a success. One plan is to improve the relationships between police and club owners. They plan to give Mayor Newsom a report of on the summit's findings, which may lead to future legislation.
 
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San Francisco on Fire

This article states their are 60,000 peices of fire arms in the city of san francisco.Are they factoring in the number of law enforcemnet who are liscenced to kill or ordinary private citizens who are protecting themselves?
Proliferation of guns blamed for epidemic of violence in S.F.


C.W. Nevius
Thursday, January 17, 2008
A lot has changed since San Francisco police Lt. John Murphy started working the drug and homicide beats in the 1980s.
"In the '80s, we'd get one, two or three guns a week," Murphy said. "Now it's like - who doesn't have one?"
Just about everyone, it seems. Kevin Ryan, the former U.S. attorney who worked on federal law enforcement for the Bush administration, recently joined the staff of San Francisco Gavin Newsom as director of the Office of Criminal Justice. He says the sheer numbers are shocking.
"There are 60,000 handguns in San Francisco," Ryan said. "And 2,400 assault rifles. There are a lot of guns out there."
You're reading that right. SIXTY THOUSAND guns in a population of less than 745,000 in a geographical area of 49 square miles. That's a gun in every five households, or one for every 12th man, woman or child.
And Ryan says confrontations are going nuclear almost immediately. "Instead of a fistfight, a dispute is elevated to a shooting at the drop of a hat."
You can pick your example, but for a clear case of mindless, senseless gunplay, it is hard to beat the incident at the downtown Metreon shopping mall in November, when a 15-year-old boy shot an 18-year-old three times after an argument over moving too slowly on the escalator. The victim was pronounced dead at San Francisco General Hospital 30 minutes later.
"It's sad," says Murphy. "He's 15 years old. How could you be that mad at that age?"
And what was a 15-year-old boy doing with a gun? Where do these guns come from?
Most San Franciscans might initially conclude that the city needs stronger gun laws. But Dr. Garen Wintemute, director of UC Davis' Violence Prevention Research Program, says, "In San Francisco, it is actually very difficult to legally buy a handgun."
But it's a different story outside city limits. Guns are flooding into town from out-of-state gun shows, like the one next month in Reno, where background checks and waiting periods are not required. Another common tactic is a "straw purchase," where someone without a criminal record legally buys weapons and then resells them for cash. Murphy says one individual bought 62 guns in one year.
"We have numerous cases," said San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, "where someone buys legally, then drives a truck or SUV into the Bayview neighborhood, opens up the trunk and has a fire sale."
One thing is certain: Gun violence has local residents calling for action. After posting the highest homicide total in 12 years in 2007 (98), 2008 got off to a gruesome start with six deaths in the first two weeks - including a 19-year-old who was shot in the heart while sitting on porch steps chatting with his girlfriend.
"It's tragic and a source of frustration to everybody," said Harris. "They're people, human beings, and they've got lives."
Guns are also political dynamite. Newsom hired heavy-hitter Ryan to address persistent questions about the climbing homicide rate, and Harris made gun violence a centerpiece of her inaugural speech Jan. 8. And some don't want to touch it. Newly confirmed Northern California U.S. Attorney Joe Russoniello, who started work Jan. 7, was "not available" for a comment on the topic. His spokesman Josh Eaton said, "We recognize that this is an important issue. Accordingly, we will continue to work closely with federal and local authorities to address the problem."
So are there any suggestions? Actually there are, although the solution begins by understanding the motivation of the shooters.
"Since the mid-'80s," says Wintemute, "the illicit drug trade has armed itself with progressively more lethal weapons. If you live in that environment, you'd be foolish not to carry a gun. It's essential business equipment these days."
You might have guessed that. But what you might not know is that a very small number of shooters are causing a large number of the incidents. SFPD's Murphy says at one point his group was able to identify and remove 12 bad actors from a neighborhood and "we didn't have a shooting for seven months."
Wintemute says that approach is a big part of the "Boston Miracle," a gun violence program that dramatically reduced homicides in that city in the '90s.
"They called in the gang leadership," Wintemute said, "and they told them, 'We know who you are, and we know most of you are on probation. If you don't knock it off, you're going to see probation enforcement like you've never seen before.' "
Wintemute says the Boston police concentrated on nailing the slow learners who ignored the warnings, even if it was for jaywalking, to get them out of the area. The results were dramatic. (Unfortunately, Boston's homicide rate has climbed again after funding cuts and staffing problems.)
Still, it's an idea. In the coming weeks, everyone from Harris and Ryan to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms, Tobacco and Explosives is promising dramatic new initiatives. They've gotten the memo. This is a topic that has the city's attention.
"It is a perception of safety and violence," said Ryan. "Do the citizens of San Francisco feel safe? I think there is a lot of anxiety out there."
Who knows, in a week or so, maybe even U.S. Attorney Russoniello will chime in.