vick taking leave of absence

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phil

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JesterMIR said:
I guess the dead bodies of dogs that were found on his property isn't worth noting. As well as the dogs that were in kennels that had wounds from dog fighting. Oh yeah, lets not rule out the blood and pry bars as well.
not saying dogfighting didnt take place, but do those items put vick there? you really think those items mean mike vick electrocuted and fought dogs? or is it MAYBE possible that he didnt know?
 

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or is it possible that someone wants him to take the fall and was offered a sweet deal to testify that he was there? GO BACK AND READ AND SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT PUTS VICK AT A DOG FIGHT OR ABUSING DOGS. witness testimony is excluded since people who fight dogs are the lowest scum of the earth. we gotta be consistent here.
 
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not saying dogfighting didnt take place, but do those items put vick there? you really think those items mean mike vick electrocuted and fought dogs? or is it MAYBE possible that he didnt know?
If he was responsible, he would have made sure nothing illegal was going on at his land. Even if he checked, how wouldn't he know something was going on? It looks fishy with 50+ pits are in a Kennel. And with some with serious scratch and bite marks.
 

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If he was responsible, he would have made sure nothing illegal was going on at his land. Even if he checked, how wouldn't he know something was going on? It looks fishy with 50+ pits are in a Kennel. And with some with serious scratch and bite marks.
maybe he was under the assumption that the kennel he helped start was running legit. HOWEVER UNLIKELY IT IS POSSIBLE. and whats the matter, there should be a plethora of evidence for you to point to. well thats what i would want to see before i wished someone was in prison getting raped. sorry but thats just me.
 

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JesterMIR said:
If he was responsible, he would have made sure nothing illegal was going on at his land. Even if he checked, how wouldn't he know something was going on? It looks fishy with 50+ pits are in a Kennel. And with some with serious scratch and bite marks.
its not lookin fishy if he built the house with the intent of it being a legit breeding business. it is possible, HOWEVER UNLIKELY YOU THINK IT IS, that his legal operation he left to the family was hijacked. IM NOT SAYING DUDE IS INNOCENT, but at the same time, you could have shut me up already if you had pointed to evidence that vick was there at those dogfights or killed any dogs for underperforming. but there isnt any, something you conveniently keep dodging.
 

phil

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just say youve convicted him in your mind based on the testimony of dogfighters. scum of the earth, people on the level of child molesters and murderers. thats whose word youre taking in all this when you say vick should be in prison.
 
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Vick seriously deserves to get the max sentence. Fuck that dude.

It's not like this was his first incident either.. The whole marijuana in a water bottle incident that he ended up getting away with.
 
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unless you can show me proof outside of "witness testimony" that vick is guilty of doing anything other than buying property and building a dog kennel on it then im supporting an "alleged scumbag" ok?
It's quite obvious you will not allow yourself to see that Vick is a piece of shit.
 
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phil said:
not saying dogfighting didnt take place, but do those items put vick there? you really think those items mean mike vick electrocuted and fought dogs? or is it MAYBE possible that he didnt know?
Read this very carefully..

IF YOU OWN THE PROPERTY, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS THERE.

You have to be ignorant as fuck to believe Mike Vick had nothing to do with this shit. You do realize that there are people on this board who like Vick, but YOU are the ONLY one in here defending him for something he clearly knew was going on (IF he didn't participate himself).
 
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phil said:
witness testimony is excluded since people who fight dogs are the lowest scum of the earth.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I mean really.. You do understand that the only people who would witness Vick at a dogfight are OTHER PEOPLE AT A DOGFIGHT, right? You also understand that most witnesses are deemed credible, and their testimony is just as damaging as any physical evidence, right?

Murderers and rapists would be considered scum and somewhat unreliable, but guess what phil.. A lot of murderers and rapists have turned and snitched people out for things, and those people were convicted. You know why? Because chances are they were both engaging in the same activity and are more likely to witness the event then anybody else.

You wanna make witnesses seem like they are not credible.. Just give it a rest.
 
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Vick put himself out there for this too happen, like it's been said he should of made sure that NON OF HIS PROPERTIES were being used for anything like dogfighting. When you've came so far, to risk losing it all doesn't make sense to me. But times change.
 

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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I mean really.. You do understand that the only people who would witness Vick at a dogfight are OTHER PEOPLE AT A DOGFIGHT, right? You also understand that most witnesses are deemed credible, and their testimony is just as damaging as any physical evidence, right?

Murderers and rapists would be considered scum and somewhat unreliable, but guess what phil.. A lot of murderers and rapists have turned and snitched people out for things, and those people were convicted. You know why? Because chances are they were both engaging in the same activity and are more likely to witness the event then anybody else.

You wanna make witnesses seem like they are not credible.. Just give it a rest.
youre missing the point. the point is people keep saying hes guilty for sure when the only evidence against him is testimony of fellow felons. im just asking if anyone has seen physical evidence placing vick at a dogfight or killing a dog. i still havent, just testimony from people trying to save their ass. ive said it before, im sure vick is involved somehow, minor or major is yet to see, but some people have wished death upon the man based on the testimony of people trying to save their own ass.
 

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Vick put himself out there for this too happen, like it's been said he should of made sure that NON OF HIS PROPERTIES were being used for anything like dogfighting. When you've came so far, to risk losing it all doesn't make sense to me. But times change.
yeah hes definitely a fucking moron either way, i have to agree with that.
 

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Yeah man.... people are talking that's for sure. The bad thing about it is... this all went down on property owned by Vick. I think it's going to be hard for Vick to beat this case. He has to prove that he didn't know anything about the dog fighting that was going on at a house he owns... that's going to be hard. He's gotta prove he had no idea about "Bad News Kennelz". I personally think he's going to end up doing some time in the Federal Pen. The evidence is all there... they just have to prove that Vick knew. I don't think that will be hard... Should be interesting though...
 

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Yeah man.... people are talking that's for sure. The bad thing about it is... this all went down on property owned by Vick. I think it's going to be hard for Vick to beat this case. He has to prove that he didn't know anything about the dog fighting that was going on at a house he owns... that's going to be hard. He's gotta prove he had no idea about "Bad News Kennelz". I personally think he's going to end up doing some time in the Federal Pen. The evidence is all there... they just have to prove that Vick knew. I don't think that will be hard... Should be interesting though...
yes its definitely going to depend on a couple things one being vick taking a deal or the defense calling into question the credibility of the witnesses IF theres no physical evidence to cooberate their testimony.
 
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phil said:
you people should really go back and read the indictment. every piece of evidence they have tying vick is testimony. NOTHING PHYSICAL. im just sayin, go back and read it if you dont believe me.

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of course it's testimony...just like local drug dealers ratout the source to beat a rap...just like joe snitches on harry to beat out a murder charge...MOST EVERY CASE IN THE US IS BASED OFF TESTIONY