ummm Phil...where are you?
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Whether Vick participated in the dog fighting or just owned the property he still knew what the fuck was going on and that makes him a piece of shit in my eyes. You (phil) obviously have a biased opinion, but come on.. I don't know if you're a dog lover or not, but forcing them to fight is out of line. Fuck Mike Vick as a person.
Phil, you came to Michael Vick's defense here. But lets use common sense. Say you own ONE property that your family stays in, not 15 in 3 different states. You mean to tell me that you would NEVER, and I mean NEVER go there and see what the hell is going on? Seriously.. naive only gets you so far and then it is just plain stupidity. Whether you or the other Vick apologists like it he will be suspended, the protests and the questions are not something the NFL or the Falcons are going to want to deal with. I have no doubt in my mind that Vick knew what was going on at that house or that he even participated. As a Bucs fan I wish that he could stick around for a TC and ruin their season, but as a human being I hope he is suspended before TC even starts.
I read all 18 pages...And they did place him there a couple times, as well as the orders to kill some of the dogs is clear! How can he give orders to kill if he wasn't there watching???????
Not too mention the major major charge in this case is the interstate trafficking........he owns the company that set up all the interstate travel...kinda hard to get out of that. Out of all charges that 1 single charge carries 5 of the max 6 years in jail!
Not too mention he funded the place where it happened, he funded the kennel itself, and not 1 time was he smart abnout anything to try to cover it up
why you ask?
1) He paid for the house...not under an alias...not through a lawyer..not giving his couson the money and let them own it...he did hid own anme...IDIOT!
2)Bad newz kennels......aka bad newz the city HE IS FROM?????? COMEON...IDIOT!
3) His alias..Ookie...what is Virginia Trechs Macot......oh yeahhhhhh IDIOT!
4) He repeatdly told Roger Goddell he wasn't involved at all......THIS IS WHAT WILL GET HIM IN TROUBLE WITH THE LEAGUE....He had a chance to come somewhat clean with his employeer..he did not....IDIOT!
5) Like mentioned aboce..you are going to purchase a huge ass house for family, but never ever ever ever once visit it????? riiiiiiiiiiiight
The evidence and instances we know about from the indictment only is damaging....what until witness testimony, then he will be up shit creek.
They pleaded guilty instead of going to trial...why would that be???? Because they pleased for a lower sentence.....Fed Indictments are as good as a lock practically.
So sure only a few % get found guilty AT TRIAL.....most all plead guilty knowing the evidence is too strong in a fed indictment case
So sure...when you get to trial things can change...but this shows that evidience is so damning that most don't want to even try it because the feds have such a great case.
i am sure now that vick knew what was going on, i think ive stated that recently, i just waited til the evidence (indictment) came out, but i dont think hes a piece of shit, but then again im biased like fatal said. scary one i was just wondering what you thought i wasnt tryin to be a dick. sorry if i came off that way, i was just curious what you thought about the indictment. i was just curious because a former falcon tony martin maybe you remember him was indicted for 5 counts of laundering drug money and found not guilty and went on to play 3 more years. he was with the dolphins when this went down. i think it was 98 or 99. its not a lock.
there was an article today in the dayton paper that was talking about the prosecutor in virginia, and what he states in there is why i was so staunch in my wait and see attitude. he still maintains that there was no evidence linking vick directly to the dogfighting. i was taking the prosecutors word over the medias which i thought was the right thing to do.
there was an article today in the dayton paper that was talking about the prosecutor in virginia, and what he states in there is why i was so staunch in my wait and see attitude. he still maintains that there was no evidence linking vick directly to the dogfighting. i was taking the prosecutors word over the medias which i thought was the right thing to do.
youre not unbiased either. i think theres a thread somewhere about athletes you hate. you stated mike vick.
im a dog lover but im not one of those people that thinks its worse than kobe allegedly raping a woman and ray lewis allegedly murdering a man. these peoples careers werent ruined or put on hold to please a lynch mob.
im a dog lover but im not one of those people that thinks its worse than kobe allegedly raping a woman and ray lewis allegedly murdering a man. these peoples careers werent ruined or put on hold to please a lynch mob.
80 percent conviction rate in a trial is not a lock. and the fact that vick is a multi millionaire probably gives him a better chance at fitting in that 20 percent bracket. call me callous but i dont care if he was involved i hope he gets off for this b.s. with some probation and fines if found guilty. thats my homeristic view. but on the same token if hes found guilty and suspended for a year then i wouldnt be mad at all. serves him right being stupid enough to not cover his tracks.
CYA
Cover your own ass...thats the mode he is in now...he was found to be incompetent once (probably free season tix, etc....)...but he can't afford to be incomptent this time
P.S.
Here's Vicks new car
http://jalopnik.com/cars/ad-watch/dodge-nitro-kills-dog-makes-us-cry-a-little-280059.php
yeah i feel ya, the hype was overkill, like dude was supposed to throw for 400 and run for 100 everygame.
i agree and have stated repeatedly vick is the most overhyped athlete ever. overrated? no. some people confuse overrated and overhyped. two different things.
i really feel bad for petrino in all this shit. he came to atlanta because of vick. he saw how vick was being undercoached and used in a system that didnt take advantage of his strengths and magnified his weaknesses. now he has to get harrington in the groove. its time to see what harringtons about.
hopefully his problems were a product of his shitty teams he played on, but my friend is a die hard lions fan and he praised jesus the day harrington was let go so i dont know.
i agree and have stated repeatedly vick is the most overhyped athlete ever. overrated? no. some people confuse overrated and overhyped. two different things.
i really feel bad for petrino in all this shit. he came to atlanta because of vick. he saw how vick was being undercoached and used in a system that didnt take advantage of his strengths and magnified his weaknesses. now he has to get harrington in the groove. its time to see what harringtons about.
hopefully his problems were a product of his shitty teams he played on, but my friend is a die hard lions fan and he praised jesus the day harrington was let go so i dont know.
