TIM LINCHECUM

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Lincecum is the truth, I used to see him almost all of the time last year at school (University of Washington) and now he's throwing heat in the bigs. I've seen that guy mow over ncaa schools and will check him out whenever the Giants come up to play the mariners...1
 

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Quick said:
Zito, Cain and Lincecum will all be Giants in 3-4 years, with the exception of the Padres, are those pitchers going to stay on the same team in 3-4 years?

I dont know I cant see the future homie. I was just stating the best 3 man rotations now. In 4 years shit may change. hit me then. Got Em!!!
 

Quick

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CZAR said:
I dont know I cant see the future homie. I was just stating the best 3 man rotations now. In 4 years shit may change. hit me then. Got Em!!!
I was talking about the future, not now. Of course they arent the best 123 pitchers of today. There's no point in arguing that.
 

CZAR

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Quick said:
Someone was wasnt paying close attention all season.

Dont know if u referrin to me, but I know my shit and Morris is booboo. yea he may have stretches but he also gets mopped up alot. and overall this season he is booboo! His era is over 4.00 which in the national league aint good!! Deal with it!! Got Em!!
 

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Boner said:
only thing that worries me about him is his stature and how hard he throws. He looks like he'll blow his arm in a few years and become like Harden, Prior, & Wood. But Roy Oswalt has managed to stay relatively healthy...so you never know.
He uses his whole body to generate power (his dad "engineered" his pitching motion), I doubt he'll have any major arm issues. Here's an exerpt from an article on him:

Most major-league pitchers are strong in the upper body and rely on their shoulders, arms and muscle. Not Lincecum. His mechanics are old school, like Bob Feller or Satchel Paige. He uses a longer windup, a longer stride and leverage to compensate for good, old-fashioned arm strength.

"Everything from my toe to my ear," Lincecum says. "I use it all."

Feet, ankles, knees, hips, chest, shoulders, elbow and then wrist. Each body part in the throwing motion as important as the one before. The key is rhythm and centering the body to the core in the lower back. The idea is to make the body into a whip, relying on the motion and not the arm.
 
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"lol" at his dad engineered his pitching motion!

he is too small to throw that hard without suffering injuries. ya, ok, Roy Oswalk, but that guy is 6 foot and muscular. Lincecum is like 5'10 and skinny. the only guy to ever put up number for a period of time and is now pretty much ruined is Pedro, same size, same velocity, ect.......
 

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LA Dodgers said:
"lol" at his dad engineered his pitching motion!
He took credit for essentially "engineering" or designing the motion:

Give Giants' Lincecum's Dad credit for evolution of a phenom
Chris Lincecum provided design and instruction for his son Tim's career

By Andrew Baggarly
San Jose Mercury News
Article Launched:05/25/2007 01:39:14 AM PDT


Chris Lincecum sat in the middle of the largest building in the world, a place devoted to the grandest designs on propulsion.

It was there in Everett, Wash., among the Boeing 747 aircraft being assembled around him, that he logged data into a computer, inventoried thousands of parts and dreamed of building a better machine.

One that throws a baseball. One that happens to be his son.

After a lifetime of prodding, practicing, filming and watching videotapes that fill an entire room in his house, Chris Lincecum's master design rolled into the major leagues. His son, Tim, is dominating the best hitters on earth.

And dad is justifiably proud.

"Did you see where Craig Biggio, the future Hall of Famer, had Lincecum-itis the other day?" he said over the phone, laughing. "`Nah, Skip, I don't feel like playing today.' I love it."

Tim Lincecum struck out Biggio three times last week in Houston. Five days later, Biggio wasn't in the lineup when the 22-year-old rookie right-hander faced the Astros again.

"Hey, you can't blame 'em," Chris Lincecum said. "His stuff's just nasty, isn't it?"

The Giants would agree. They promoted Lincecum from Triple-A on May 6 after he torched the Pacific Coast League. He has pitched better each time since his debut, mixing a 97 mph fastball with a snapdragon curve and an emerging change-up that he mostly uses to fool left-handed hitters.

By now, you probably know that Lincecum stands 5-foot-11 in his cleats, weighs less than the average member of the high school comic book club - he's listed at 174 pounds - and could probably squeeze three months out of a travel-size can of shaving cream.

Dad takes credit

You've also probably heard that he generates incredible power from his slight frame through a handcrafted pitching motion that leverages every ounce of his body.

And you might have read something about that delivery being his father's invention, inspired by watching old footage of Sandy Koufax and Bob Feller.

"That's all baloney," Chris Lincecum insisted. "I didn't look at anybody. I developed that form all on my own."

Chris Lincecum, 59, speaks in a gravelly voice and a feisty, rapid-fire stream of consciousness. He'll change subjects in mid-sentence, meander back to his main point, then apologize for rambling on.

He was 6 when his uncle taught him how to grip a curveball, and a lifelong fascination began. His own pitching aspirations ended as a 21-year-old when he broke his back in a fall, but he never stopped thinking about things like transference, tilt, balance, load and leverage.

"I developed a set of mechanics that work from foot to fingertips using all hinges in sequence," he said. "Then I had kids."

All at once, Chris Lincecum tells a dozen stories about his two sons (Sean is the eldest by four years). There was the time Tim made his high school varsity golf team even though he had played just 27 holes in his life. And the fact Tim can play golf with right-handed clubs even though he's a left-handed batter, and that he's a natural switch hitter, and that if he's anything like his old man, he'll be able to throw 88 mph into his mid-50s.

"I get so sick and tired about them talking about how he's going to break down," Chris Lincecum said. "I've heard that for years, and he's not. All he needs to do is keep his core muscles in shape and all his hinges loose, and he'll be good for a long, long time."

Tim has thrown a ball for as long as he can remember. On some of those old tapes, when his mother is holding the camera and his brother is working on a pitching lesson with his dad, 3-year-old Timmy is bobbing about in the background.

"There I go, running around," he said. "You can see me trying to throw like my brother."

Sean broke his arm playing football, but Tim had the lithe build and the natural flexibility to repeat what his father showed him.

"A load like Warren Spahn or Bob Feller, a dangle and the looseness of Satchel Paige and the finish and follow through of Bob Gibson," Chris Lincecum said. "It's pieces of them and it's good for anybody because it's very efficient. It's perfect."

Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti agrees.

"Everybody's talking like this is some strange delivery," Righetti said. "He's just a wiry kid out there using his body to throw the baseball, which is easier on the arm. To me, that's the way you're supposed to throw."

Here's a good break down of his pitching motion/mechanics:

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/mechanics/discussion/controlled_fury_tim_lincecum/
 

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Yup yup and the boy got another Win! Zito, haha what a joke. I can't believe the Giants wasted that much money on his ass. They coulda added another offensive bat instead of Zito.
 

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Rich said:
Yup yup and the boy got another Win! Zito, haha what a joke. I can't believe the Giants wasted that much money on his ass. They coulda added another offensive bat instead of Zito.

Im glad one giant fan can be real admit Zito is booboo!! We offered that scrub 75 mill and once the giants said 125 mill, we laughed!!! Glad yall got em instead!! Got Em!!!
 
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Rich said:
Yup yup and the boy got another Win! Zito, haha what a joke. I can't believe the Giants wasted that much money on his ass. They coulda added another offensive bat instead of Zito.
that was are only option...we tried getting a power hitter but they didnt want to come here...

and thats what happends when you come to the national league...you get fuucked up.
 

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that was are only option...we tried getting a power hitter but they didnt want to come here...

and thats what happends when you come to the national league...you get fuucked up.
its not coming to the NL thats fuckin him up...its his pitches not having any movement, his fastball being 85-86 MPH and not being able to make hitters swing and miss. Dude looks like he just aint tryin out there, he got wat he wanted (Big contract) and now he jus goin out there and puttin in the mininmum he can...I cant even be pissed no more, shit jus makes me laugh...
 

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BayRider04 said:
and thats what happends when you come to the national league...you get fuucked up.

U cant be more wrong!! Its harder to pitch in the AL actually, because they have the DH! ERA's are always higher in the AL overall! Most pitchers that come from the AL to the NL do much better than vice versa! Its not 100% but its pretty high!! U trippin there!! Dude just washed up and waaayyyyy overpaid! Deal with it!! Got Em!!
 
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LA Dodgers said:
he is too small to throw that hard without suffering injuries. ya, ok, Roy Oswalk, but that guy is 6 foot and muscular. Lincecum is like 5'10 and skinny. the only guy to ever put up number for a period of time and is now pretty much ruined is Pedro, same size, same velocity, ect.......
well if his career is anything like pedro's then i dont think anyone will be disappointed
 
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CZAR said:
Im glad one giant fan can be real admit Zito is booboo!! We offered that scrub 75 mill and once the giants said 125 mill, we laughed!!! Glad yall got em instead!! Got Em!!!
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT I BEEN SAID THAT HES GARBAGE.