THEY CAN KEEP HATIN....................MY NIGGA LOCKSMITH DID HIS THANG

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cellskiaka2took said:
I SEE WHY PEOPLE DONT FEEL YOU SIC WID IT.IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR AGAINST US BEING PUT ON TOP.I SAID FUCK DRE CAUSE WHAT HAS DRE DONE FOR CALI SINCE HE STARTED AFTERMATH THE CHRONIC 2000.DRE TAKES TO LONG TO DROP SHIT BACK IN THE NWA DAYS TILL NOW.HE HAS THE 2 HOTTEST MCS RIGHT NOW,HE NEED TO AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO BRING SOME LIGHT TO US AND IM NOT JUST TALKIN BOUT LA IM TALKIN BOUT THE BAY AND CALI IN ALL.WHY SHOULDNT DRE PLAY CAPT SAVE A WEST COAST,IF I HAD AS MUCH POWER AS DRE AND I SEE NIGGAS DISREPECTING AND NOBODY FROM CALI BEIN PUT ON I WOULD USE MY POWERS WITHIN,BUT DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH DRE REALLY LOVES CALIFORNIA CAUSE I SHOW IN THE FUCK LOVE IT AND IF I HAD DRES SHOES I WOULD MAKE THE INDUSTRY LOVE US AGAIN.NIGGAS BEEN TRYIN TO NO AVAIL AND IT WAS PROOVEN ON MTV
All kinds of people feel me & share my views but some of them don't agree with how I express things. I'm west coast raised & still live here so of course I want us to win & be back on top. Not to mention that it would be good for everyones pockets. That's simple common sense.

What I'm against is all this cry baby shit cats are on. Mutha fuckas want to sit around whinin' & blame everything under the sun but themselves for their failures. You yourself said that cats are stuck in the early-mid 90's. Why do you think cats fight to leave that era? Man look, if you can't get past that how the fuck you think you're going to overcome the bigger challenges like taking on media & big label money?

About the Dre issue... You can think Dre should do this or that for LA, the bay, California or the whole west coast. The bottom line is it doesn't matter what you think Dre should do because he doesn't have to do jack shit. As far as I'm concerned Dre shouldn't even be brought up because thats usually a sign that cats are running out of excuses. Fuck what Dre is or isn't doing. That's his business, what he does with Aftermath Records is his business and he doesn't control your destiny in rap music. If he wanted to help, I definately wouldn't complain but then again why would he when cats are always pointing their finger at him, blaming him for shit he isn't responsible for in the first place? You say "FUCK DRE" but at the same time still want him to help.

Saving west coast rap isn't a job for just one single person and cats need to quit depending on someone to do it. The west coast is a mess and everyone wants someone to step in a fix it all instead of everything getting real about the shit and figuring out how to fix it themselves.

If the west wants to win again then we need to win people over. We need to make them want to support us. How the fuck you think thats going to happen when most cats choose to sit around whining & having temper tantrums about not getting what they think they deserve? Nobody wants to support a cry baby and that is how a lot of west coast rappers are comin' off, straight up. Once you get over that, you still have to tackle the issue of being stuck on an outdated sound.

I'm more for the west than most cats claiming to be because I'm willing to earn the spotlight back. I don't expect that it just be handed to me.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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now reign man was a very tight mothafucka up till he fucked with locksmith,reign man just didnt have it anymore....now i know all them def jam and mtv dudes knew that lyricaly,lock roasted him,but its about the money....they know how much a bay cat is gonna make them....its gonna make them a mothafuckin flop,thats the truth....in the valley and the bay we can all say we only support nor cal shit,but "we" only account for a small fraction of the sales....the rest of the mothafuckas are still gonna buy what they see on the basement and trl....

we need support from our soil....out south an artist can make a mill from just sellin down south,independitly....out east they got it sowed....down in l.a. they got it a lot better then us.thats the "west coast" right there....

fuck that this is "Northern Cali Side"....and we support every body else in this mothafucka but our own selves....it aint gonna change unless we get to a broader audience....hit the liquor stores,hit the clubs,hit the cruisin' strips....BUT, you gotta start hittin the square fairs man....all these upper class white folks are buyin rap but they dont see our shit....go to there hang outs man,go to dennys man,go to starbucks man.go to krispy kream donuts man.if they dont wanna buy but they "do" like rap give the mothafucka a free cd.your only losin a dollar or so that you'll make back any way....thats real man....mtv aint gonna give you a chance so you gotta make a chance for your self....
This is how more cats need to start thinking. It's definately a good place to start. I really hope cats see & understand the bigger picture too!
 
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tell the truth, i really ain't worried
cus the problem is in our own backyard...
if them cats on the east don't wanna fuck with me, THEN FUCK EM...i know plenty of trues out there tho that got much love for a youngstarr like myself(shouts to Black Minds Ent.)
Shit, i know ya gonna bark down my neck SickWidIt, but you know my stance on the producers out here...nobody wanna help anyone shine...my potnas in the east, is geettin hot production for DIRT CHEAP jus cus cats is feelin them, and know they young and need a hand in the game..
out here in the bay, forget about it...
one love to Rhythm X, Black C and Mark7 for keepin it STREET on the beat prices!!!
i mean, we ain't gon blow up without helpin eachother...
so i blame no man but us...

we all hella selfish...tryin to be the only whale on a sail boat
 
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I AINT NEVER BEEN THE ONE TO COMPLAIN BUT WHEN U SEE NIGGAS ON MTV IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF VIEWERS DISSIN OUR STATE IM GONNA CRY LIKE A BABY 4 REAL.NOT NO TEARS BUT ON THE MIC OR WHATEVER.IF YOU WAS REALLY DOWN WID CALI YOULL BE SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING WE TRY TO DO TO GET PUT ON.DRE HAS THE POWER AND THE TRACK RECORD WHY NOT DRE.YALL AINT NEVER HEARD ME CRYIN OVER SHIT.I LET MY ACTION SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.NIGGAS GOT A REASON TO CRY AND COMPLAIN.LIKE FOULMOUTH SAID WE SUPPORT EVERYTHING BUT WE DONT GET NO SUPPORT.
 
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YOUNGMOE said:
i know ya gonna bark down my neck SickWidIt, but you know my stance on the producers out here...nobody wanna help anyone shine...my potnas in the east, is geettin hot production for DIRT CHEAP jus cus cats is feelin them, and know they young and need a hand in the game..
out here in the bay, forget about it...
one love to Rhythm X, Black C and Mark7 for keepin it STREET on the beat prices!!!
i mean, we ain't gon blow up without helpin eachother...
so i blame no man but us...

we all hella selfish...tryin to be the only whale on a sail boat
Nope, I'm not gonna bark cuz if you make a producer feel you enough to want to help you whether it's with free beats or atleast a good discount then you earned that! It's the cats who expect that from producers that I have a problem with.

You're right, there is no blowin' up without people helping each other. I can respect that you said there's no one to blame but us and that cats are selfish. I'm glad cats have the balls to stand up and say it!
 
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cellskiaka2took said:
IF YOU WAS REALLY DOWN WID CALI YOULL BE SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING WE TRY TO DO TO GET PUT ON.
If this was meant for me..... I'm down with the whole west coast, not just California. I'm also a grown man and I'm supportive of any respectable effort, not simply anything people do.

You won't EVER catch me sayin', "Dr. Dre, I wanna be saaaaaaaaved". Nobody should be saying that!
 
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yeah....locksmith got em.....
its crazy...i thought he would win cause he had more of a "east coast" flow to him....

atleast people saw him...he got his exposure...someone should be givin dude a call..

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@ YOUNG MOE-IM ONE OF WHAT WHO.THATS MY ADVERTISED PRICING(SINCE U WANT TO PUT MY BUSINESS OUT THERE LIKE THAT)HAVE YOU ASKED FOR A QUOTE FOR SOME BEATS FROM ME.NOPE.HAVE YOU ASKED FOR A QUOTE ON SOME VERSES NOPE.YOU DONT KNOW WHO ON THIS BOARD MIGHT WANNA VERSE OR A BEAT FROM ME IT COULD BE A A& R DUDE LOOKIN AT THE SITE AND SEE I CHARGE 1500 OR WHATEVER AND THEY SAY WHO IS THIS HE MUST BE SOMEBODY TO CHARGE SO MUCH.TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD I DID BUSINESS WIT THEY DIDNT GET CHARGED THE BART BOARD PRICES AND IF I WANTED 5 GS A BEAT THATS ME. MY SHIT DONT SOUND LIKE NO CASIO,TRINITY SOUNDIN SHIT.LISTEN AT "ITS KILLA KEISE". "THE 1ST AND 15TH" AND "THE GAME" FROM VOL 3.AND ANOTHER FACT AS A PRODUCER YOU DONT WANNA JUST GIVE YOUR BEATS TO JUST ANYBODY CAUSE NIGGAS WILL FUCK UP YO BEAT AND MAKE YOU LOOK WEAK.IM ALWAYS HELPIN NIGGAS IN THE BAY WHEN THEY GET AT ME.IM NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND TELL YOU IMMA DOO FREE STUFF BUT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I EAT AND I GOT TO GET SOMETHIN FOR MY TIME AND CONTRIBUTION.EVERYBODY CAN RAP BUT CAN EVERYBODY RAP 4 REAL.I DONT THINK SO.I DONT JUST FUCK WIT JUST ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY.ALL MONEY AINT GOOD MONEY.

I HAVE TRIED TO GIVE CATS BEATS(MESSY,QUINN,KEEK,MOB FIGGAS,C-BO,YUK,ETC)BUT THEY JUST DO THEY OWN THANG SO I GIVE EM TO KILLA KEISE AND HE MAKES HITS OUT OF EM SO I AINT TRIPPIN.CATS IN TEXAS AND ATL DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WIT SPENDIN$ THATS JUST IN THE BAY.NIGGAS WANT 3 SACKS FOR $20 AND SHIT LIKE THAT WHEN I CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GET $10 A BAG.THINK ABOUT IT

NEPTUNES$100,00 AND YOU GOT TO BUY 2
JAZZY PHA$30,000
RICK ROCK$20,000
KANYE WEST$75,000
JUST BLAZE$50,000
TIMBALAND$70,000
BATTLECAT$15,000
MIKE DEAN$10,000(BART MEMBER)
MANNIE FRESH $30,000

JUST SOME PRICES OF SOME OF MY FAVORITE PRODUCERS.I CAN MAKE SHIT JUST AS HARD AS THEM AND I ONLY WANT $1500 THATS CRUMBS.AND ON MY WEBSITE IT SAYS ALL PRICES ARE NEGOTIONABLE SO THER IT IS.
 
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Im With You on this one, and part of the reason we dont have nobody like in their 40's with money backing Rap out here, think about Russell Simmons Millionaire in Hip-Hop, Andre Harrell, etc etc, people that support that shit w/ money. We have noone muthafuckas out here dropped the Ball, we dont have no real dollars behind us No Dr. Dres none of that shit, We got 40, Short & Hammer who never really got out their artist deals big enough to put niggas on with a Major Deal, and like Cellski said Dre aint puttin nobody on from up North, people do think Cali is All LA cuz they only ones that do get cool deals when the few are even offered at Cali Rappers! This shit has to change cuz i know my rappers could go blow for Blow with any East Coast Click but we wont know until somebody puts their job on the line and gives us a chance!
 
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cool, i'm sayin you're TOP PRODUCER...and nah i never holla'd at you bout beats, cus i can't spend 1,500 and i didn't knwo it was negotiable...but if it's like that...i'll be hollin atyou, cus you one of the hottest in the game without a doubt

and nah, ain't no one askin you to do nothin for free, i understand you gotta eat man...

and i didn't put ya business anywhere folks, it was advertised like that on this site...

you must have me mistaken for someone who's against you...cus in all reality it's 100% opposite then that...i support all ya shit and i'm a huge fan
 
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@ CELLSKI

Why you dissing WC? When PAC was alive, alot of bay area/la artists admitted to just living it up and messing up they money. Yall could have kept it going but everyone waited except SNOOP & HIS CAMP. I LOVE THE BAY MUSIC!!! But, after PAC died everyone wanted to follow MASTER P's footsteps and it didn't work independently and that's how most folks forgot about yall. Real talk.
 

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shit didnt even notice that locksmith was on the mixtape. Just noticed thanks for pointing it out. He is on track 27.
 

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The way they kept putting Reign Man's little family matters out there,seemed like they were looking for pity votes,I mean,maybe it's true dude has issues goin on,but keep that shit to yourself,and quit lookin like you want pity points from the public.
Reign Man was pretty tight,and I ain't takin shit away from him,but Lock wrung dudes neck in the first round,and pretty much ended it early.Lock kinda fucked up in the second round on that titty line,but I truly think he won that battle OVERALL.
I was'nt real impressed with anyone in those battles though.