The Passion.... Who's gonna go see it?
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Chris about yo point you made when you said homies up in heaven or what not.....
People get mad at me all the time cuz they think im being an asshole when i say thier dead homie/relaltive isnt in heaven.....but its true.....only ones in heaven are God an some angels.....anyone thas died already is jus waitin for judgment day when they will rise and be judged.....then they will go to Heaven or Hell.....till then aint no one in Heaven and we all in the closest thing to Hell while we on earth.....
People get mad at me all the time cuz they think im being an asshole when i say thier dead homie/relaltive isnt in heaven.....but its true.....only ones in heaven are God an some angels.....anyone thas died already is jus waitin for judgment day when they will rise and be judged.....then they will go to Heaven or Hell.....till then aint no one in Heaven and we all in the closest thing to Hell while we on earth.....
@ MOE how are you "jewish"? When I think of "jewish" I think of people who observe Torah and embrace the Talmud. I don't see "jewish" as a color or nationality because it's illogical to do so. Hebrew (IVRI)/Yisraeli would be a more appropriate/correct term to describe the nationality. Technically moe YOU are not a "jew" because YOU don't adhere to Judaism. Do you trace your blood line to the tribe of JUDAH from which "jew" is derived from? If your mother is not Yehudim how are YOU?
Why you would wear a Magen David t-shirt is BEYOND me. I would research it's origins and properties before I would wear one.
lol@Yeshua being a "good jew".
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Why you would wear a Magen David t-shirt is BEYOND me. I would research it's origins and properties before I would wear one.
lol@Yeshua being a "good jew".
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Yeah Jew is about bein argumental n stubborn an not wantin ta pay for shit unless ya absolutely have to....lol....
nah on the reals Moe i feel ya.....my Cuban side has Jewish origins in it....apparently many jews ended up in cuba when they fled Europe.....some shit my second cousin was lacin me up on....explains a lot about me n my ways though...lol.....
Jews have been known to be successful in business .....thas how so many of em ended up in the Banking and Jewelery proffesions.....i read that there was a time when Jews were about the only ones people would trust with thier money.....it may have been kinda biased since it was writtin by a Jew but i also read that many anti-sematic views were started due to someones bitterness towards Jews being in these professions....a scapegoat for peoples money misfortunes i guess....
nah on the reals Moe i feel ya.....my Cuban side has Jewish origins in it....apparently many jews ended up in cuba when they fled Europe.....some shit my second cousin was lacin me up on....explains a lot about me n my ways though...lol.....
Jews have been known to be successful in business .....thas how so many of em ended up in the Banking and Jewelery proffesions.....i read that there was a time when Jews were about the only ones people would trust with thier money.....it may have been kinda biased since it was writtin by a Jew but i also read that many anti-sematic views were started due to someones bitterness towards Jews being in these professions....a scapegoat for peoples money misfortunes i guess....
yeah Cuba and the Dominican Republic let more jews in during/after the holocaust then the United States did...
and south america has had a nice sized jewish population for a while...a lot of the saphardics moved over there...
about jews and money...
for a long time, when countries were in economical dires, they brought the jews in to work jobs, since a lot of them were skilled in trades, then once they taught the locals how to work those jobs, they were accused of taking all the jobs from the local people, and kicked out
it happened over and over again, the apex being the holocaust
and south america has had a nice sized jewish population for a while...a lot of the saphardics moved over there...
about jews and money...
for a long time, when countries were in economical dires, they brought the jews in to work jobs, since a lot of them were skilled in trades, then once they taught the locals how to work those jobs, they were accused of taking all the jobs from the local people, and kicked out
it happened over and over again, the apex being the holocaust
@MOE I'M NOT SPEAKING AS A PERSON WHO HAS READ FROM A BOOK. I'M SPEAKING AS A PERSON WHO LIVES MORE OF A "JEWISH LIFESTYLE" THAN *YOU* DO. IF YOU ASK *****ANY***** "JEWISH" RABBI WHAT A JEW IS HE WILL TELL YOU A JEW CAN BE ANYONE WHO WAS BORN TO A "JEWISH" (NOT CATHOLIC, MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN, AGNOSTIC OR SATANIST) MOTHER OR GONE THROUGH THE CONVERSION PROCESS. YOU HAVE *CHINESE* AND *JAPANESE* JEWS MOE. THEY DONT HAVE THE LAST NAME OF "STEINBERG" OR "ROSCHWIEL". YOU HAVE *AFRIKAN* JEWS MOE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE LAST NAME OF "DREYFUSS" OR "GOLDMAN".
SO WHILE YOU MAY TRACE TO THE DREYFUSS LINEAGE WHERE DOES THAT LINEAGE GO TO? WHICH OF THE 12 SONS OF YISRAEL DO THE DREYFUSS PEOPLE TRACE THEIR BLOODLINE TO?
TECHNICALLY YOU *CAN* BE JEWISH MOE *IF* YOUR MOTHER WAS "JEWISH", BUT YOU JUST SAID THE FAMILIY WAS CONVERTED TO CATHOLICISM. SO YOUR "JEWISHNESS" GOES FLYING OUT THE WINDOW WITH THAT STATEMENT. YOU'RE AN ASHKENAZI JEW (ANCESTRY TRACES TO RUSSIA,GERMANY,FRANCE, BOLIVIA AND TURKISH-ARYAN CULTURE) BUT THAT HAS ****NOTHING**** TO DO WITH BEING ***HEBREW*** OR A PERSON OF YISRAEL. YESHUAS (JESUS) NATIONALITY IS *NOT* JEWISH. HE WAS BORN TO A "JEWISH" MOTHER BUT HIS NATIONALITY IS ***HEBREW***. IT'S EASY TO BECOME A JEW IF YOUR MOTHER WAS NOT A JEW. GO THROUGH THE CONVERSION PROCESS (DIFFERENT VERSIONS FOR ORTHODOX,REFORM ETC ETC ETC). IT'S *NOT* EASY TO BECOME A DESCENDENT OF ONE OF THE 12 TRIBES. "EUROPEAN" JEWS TRACE TO KHAZARS NOT HEBREWS.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SEE "JEWS" AS A RACE OF BUSHY HAIR, POINTY NOSE, SOMETIMES BLUE-EYED RICH PEOPLE FROM EUROPE. I SEE BLACKS AS A MIXTURE OF AFRIKAN TRIBES, NATIVE TRIBES AND CAUCASION SLAVE MASTERS. "BLACKS" DID ***NOT*** EXIST BEFORE SLAVERY. *AFRIKANS* DID. HOW ARE THE "JEWS" OF TODAY A RACE? BETTER YET HOW ARE THE "JEWS" OF TODAY RELATED TO THE ANCIENT HEBREWS OR 12 TRIBES? IF YOU READ THE HEBREW VERSION OF THE BIBLE (OR ANY VERSION) YOU WILL SEE THAT **HEBREWS** TRACE TO ***SHEM***. WHO DO ASHKENAZI JEWS (THE MAJORITY OF SO CALLED JEWS) TRACE TO? GOMER AND SPECIFICALLY TO NOAHS SON *JAPHETH*. REFER TO GENESIS 10:1-3. WITH THAT BEING SAID IT'S **IMPOSSIBLE** FOR YOU TO BE SEMETIC/HEBREW MOE.
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PS "ZIONISM WANTS TO DEFINE THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS A NATIONAL ENTITY...WHICH IS A HERESY."-RABBI HIRSCH
SO WHILE YOU MAY TRACE TO THE DREYFUSS LINEAGE WHERE DOES THAT LINEAGE GO TO? WHICH OF THE 12 SONS OF YISRAEL DO THE DREYFUSS PEOPLE TRACE THEIR BLOODLINE TO?
TECHNICALLY YOU *CAN* BE JEWISH MOE *IF* YOUR MOTHER WAS "JEWISH", BUT YOU JUST SAID THE FAMILIY WAS CONVERTED TO CATHOLICISM. SO YOUR "JEWISHNESS" GOES FLYING OUT THE WINDOW WITH THAT STATEMENT. YOU'RE AN ASHKENAZI JEW (ANCESTRY TRACES TO RUSSIA,GERMANY,FRANCE, BOLIVIA AND TURKISH-ARYAN CULTURE) BUT THAT HAS ****NOTHING**** TO DO WITH BEING ***HEBREW*** OR A PERSON OF YISRAEL. YESHUAS (JESUS) NATIONALITY IS *NOT* JEWISH. HE WAS BORN TO A "JEWISH" MOTHER BUT HIS NATIONALITY IS ***HEBREW***. IT'S EASY TO BECOME A JEW IF YOUR MOTHER WAS NOT A JEW. GO THROUGH THE CONVERSION PROCESS (DIFFERENT VERSIONS FOR ORTHODOX,REFORM ETC ETC ETC). IT'S *NOT* EASY TO BECOME A DESCENDENT OF ONE OF THE 12 TRIBES. "EUROPEAN" JEWS TRACE TO KHAZARS NOT HEBREWS.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO SEE "JEWS" AS A RACE OF BUSHY HAIR, POINTY NOSE, SOMETIMES BLUE-EYED RICH PEOPLE FROM EUROPE. I SEE BLACKS AS A MIXTURE OF AFRIKAN TRIBES, NATIVE TRIBES AND CAUCASION SLAVE MASTERS. "BLACKS" DID ***NOT*** EXIST BEFORE SLAVERY. *AFRIKANS* DID. HOW ARE THE "JEWS" OF TODAY A RACE? BETTER YET HOW ARE THE "JEWS" OF TODAY RELATED TO THE ANCIENT HEBREWS OR 12 TRIBES? IF YOU READ THE HEBREW VERSION OF THE BIBLE (OR ANY VERSION) YOU WILL SEE THAT **HEBREWS** TRACE TO ***SHEM***. WHO DO ASHKENAZI JEWS (THE MAJORITY OF SO CALLED JEWS) TRACE TO? GOMER AND SPECIFICALLY TO NOAHS SON *JAPHETH*. REFER TO GENESIS 10:1-3. WITH THAT BEING SAID IT'S **IMPOSSIBLE** FOR YOU TO BE SEMETIC/HEBREW MOE.
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PS "ZIONISM WANTS TO DEFINE THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS A NATIONAL ENTITY...WHICH IS A HERESY."-RABBI HIRSCH
first off i'm Saphardic...on both sides...there's even a High Priest in my family if you know what that is...
Saphardic jews are a race...
and genetic wise they are most compable to Greeks and Africans...i've done my research...
i'm not of the blonde haired, blue eyed white skin jewish variety...my family is often mistaken for half black or latino, including my father...(i came out white tho)
we have, wide noses, big lips, curly hair, dark skin, and brown eyes...
when there's a certain disease only Greeks, Saphards and Africans can get, wouldn't you think it might be a race...
it's a different culture then Ashkenazi...and no, i didn't grow up in the religion, but as a jew, you're family lives with you, so i did grow up living with my Saphardic family...
and it's not a national entity...
and as far as Ashkenazi's being what most jews are, true in the united states, but we've grown in numbers a lot, especially in europe...
and chris hogg, that may be true...
but i'm a Saphard...
if you've met other Saphards you've probably mistaken them for Middle Eastern or Latin
my family is from the South Bronx, far cry from the hamptons
Saphardic jews are a race...
and genetic wise they are most compable to Greeks and Africans...i've done my research...
i'm not of the blonde haired, blue eyed white skin jewish variety...my family is often mistaken for half black or latino, including my father...(i came out white tho)
we have, wide noses, big lips, curly hair, dark skin, and brown eyes...
when there's a certain disease only Greeks, Saphards and Africans can get, wouldn't you think it might be a race...
it's a different culture then Ashkenazi...and no, i didn't grow up in the religion, but as a jew, you're family lives with you, so i did grow up living with my Saphardic family...
and it's not a national entity...
and as far as Ashkenazi's being what most jews are, true in the united states, but we've grown in numbers a lot, especially in europe...
and chris hogg, that may be true...
but i'm a Saphard...
if you've met other Saphards you've probably mistaken them for Middle Eastern or Latin
my family is from the South Bronx, far cry from the hamptons
"first off i'm Saphardic...on both sides...there's even a High Priest in my family if you know what that is..."
LMAO@"IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS". MOE YOU CAN HAVE 1 MILLION HIGH PRIESTS IN YOUR FAMILY BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU *HEBREW*. YOU SAY YOUR "SEPHARDIC" BUT WHERE DO YOUR PEOPLE TRACE TO *BESIDES* SPAIN?
"Saphardic jews are a race...and genetic wise they are most compable to Greeks and Africans...i've done my research...
i'm not of the blonde haired, blue eyed white skin jewish variety...my family is often mistaken for half black or latino, including my father...(i came out white tho) "
TO BE HONEST MOE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY "SEPHARDIC JEWS" WHO HAVE THE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS SURNAME. I'VE LOOKED AT LIKE 5 OR MORE LISTS AND I DON'T SEE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS ANY INFO WOULD BE HELPFUL IN CLARIFICATION.
"we have, wide noses, big lips, curly hair, dark skin, and brown eyes...
when there's a certain disease only Greeks, Saphards and Africans can get, wouldn't you think it might be a race..."
ONCE AGAIN DO YOU'RE PEOPLE TRACE TO **HEBREWS**? I SEE ***HEBREW*** AS THE NATIONALITY/RACE NOT "JEW". I SEE HEBREWS AS PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. SEMETIC PEOPLE WHO TRACE TO SHEM NOT PEOPLE WHO COME FROM RUSSIA.
"it's a different culture then Ashkenazi...and no, i didn't grow up in the religion, but as a jew, you're family lives with you, so i did grow up living with my Saphardic family..."
I UNDERSTAND THIS 100% BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW YOU'RE A JEW WHEN YOUR MOTHERS FAMILY WAS CONVERTED (THUS NO LONGER BEING JEWISH) AND HOW YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE A JEW WHEN YOU HAVENT (ASSUMPTION) WENT THROUGH THE CONVERSION PROCESS? IF THE SEPHARDIC "JEWS" ARE **BLOOD RELATED** TO ONE OF THE 12 TRIBES I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE I'VE YET TO SEE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS AS A SEPHARDIC SURNAME. THE ASHKENAZI JEWS HAVE *NO* CLAIM TO ISRAEL OR THE HEBREWS *EXCEPT* WHEN IT COMES TO JUDAISM.
"and it's not a national entity...and as far as Ashkenazi's being what most jews are, true in the united states, but we've grown in numbers a lot, especially in europe..."
IT'S NOT ONLY TRUE FOR THE U.S. BUT IT'S TRUE FOR THE WORLD.SO WHILE YOU MAY TRACE TO THE DREYFUSS LINEAGE WHERE DOES THAT LINEAGE GO TO? WHICH OF THE 12 SONS OF YISRAEL DO THE DREYFUSS PEOPLE TRACE THEIR BLOODLINE TO? SO FAR ALL I'VE SEEN IS THE MAJORITY OF "JEWS" KEEPING JEWISH CUSTOMS. WHILE THAT MAY MAKE ONE A "JEW" IT DOESN'T MAKE ONE "HEBREW".
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LMAO@"IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS". MOE YOU CAN HAVE 1 MILLION HIGH PRIESTS IN YOUR FAMILY BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU *HEBREW*. YOU SAY YOUR "SEPHARDIC" BUT WHERE DO YOUR PEOPLE TRACE TO *BESIDES* SPAIN?
"Saphardic jews are a race...and genetic wise they are most compable to Greeks and Africans...i've done my research...
i'm not of the blonde haired, blue eyed white skin jewish variety...my family is often mistaken for half black or latino, including my father...(i came out white tho) "
TO BE HONEST MOE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY "SEPHARDIC JEWS" WHO HAVE THE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS SURNAME. I'VE LOOKED AT LIKE 5 OR MORE LISTS AND I DON'T SEE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS ANY INFO WOULD BE HELPFUL IN CLARIFICATION.
"we have, wide noses, big lips, curly hair, dark skin, and brown eyes...
when there's a certain disease only Greeks, Saphards and Africans can get, wouldn't you think it might be a race..."
ONCE AGAIN DO YOU'RE PEOPLE TRACE TO **HEBREWS**? I SEE ***HEBREW*** AS THE NATIONALITY/RACE NOT "JEW". I SEE HEBREWS AS PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. SEMETIC PEOPLE WHO TRACE TO SHEM NOT PEOPLE WHO COME FROM RUSSIA.
"it's a different culture then Ashkenazi...and no, i didn't grow up in the religion, but as a jew, you're family lives with you, so i did grow up living with my Saphardic family..."
I UNDERSTAND THIS 100% BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW YOU'RE A JEW WHEN YOUR MOTHERS FAMILY WAS CONVERTED (THUS NO LONGER BEING JEWISH) AND HOW YOU CAN CLAIM TO BE A JEW WHEN YOU HAVENT (ASSUMPTION) WENT THROUGH THE CONVERSION PROCESS? IF THE SEPHARDIC "JEWS" ARE **BLOOD RELATED** TO ONE OF THE 12 TRIBES I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE I'VE YET TO SEE DREYFUSS/DREYFUS AS A SEPHARDIC SURNAME. THE ASHKENAZI JEWS HAVE *NO* CLAIM TO ISRAEL OR THE HEBREWS *EXCEPT* WHEN IT COMES TO JUDAISM.
"and it's not a national entity...and as far as Ashkenazi's being what most jews are, true in the united states, but we've grown in numbers a lot, especially in europe..."
IT'S NOT ONLY TRUE FOR THE U.S. BUT IT'S TRUE FOR THE WORLD.SO WHILE YOU MAY TRACE TO THE DREYFUSS LINEAGE WHERE DOES THAT LINEAGE GO TO? WHICH OF THE 12 SONS OF YISRAEL DO THE DREYFUSS PEOPLE TRACE THEIR BLOODLINE TO? SO FAR ALL I'VE SEEN IS THE MAJORITY OF "JEWS" KEEPING JEWISH CUSTOMS. WHILE THAT MAY MAKE ONE A "JEW" IT DOESN'T MAKE ONE "HEBREW".
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