**The Official SF Giants 2010 Season Thread**

[LA Dodgers]

did you read my quote that you just reposted with bold......do you know what the word "UNLESS" means?

unless of course scenarios 1 and/or 2 occurred......and in those cases just about every1 at the Major League level should be scoring.......

i not putting up an arguement against DOUBLES in general, especially because of the RCF alley...

Originally Posted by LA Dodgers
i beg to differ with that statement in general......under the right circumstances its possible, but not likely

under the right circumstances its possible to score on a double.............but they WONT score on a SINGLE...................

my aguement all along has been they wont score on a SINGLE!!! and they are limited to circumstances on doubles

 

[DubbC415]

Giants manager Bruce Bochy said that Edgar Renteria (hamstring) probably won't be activated from the disabled list when he is eligible next Thursday.
Renteria will most likely require a minor league rehab assignment, so it would be optimistic to expect him to be back next week. With Renteria on the disabled list, Juan Uribe will continue to start at shortstop.

Jeremy Affeldt (hamstring) threw a bullpen session on Friday.
Affeldt has been sidelined since Sunday after re-aggravating his left hamstring. It's a positive step, but it's not known if he will be available against the Pirates on Friday night.

Giants purchased the contract of outfielder Pat Burrell from Triple-A Fresno.
It's hard to see how Burrell fits with Buster Posey at first base and Aubrey Huff in left field. He can be squeezed in against some lefties, perhaps, but playing him in right with any frequency would leave the team with an awful defensive outfield.

Giants optioned outfielder John Bowker to Triple-A Fresno.
Bowker can hit, but if the Giants weren't willing to give him an extended opportunity this year, they probably never will. The 26-year-old was batting .207/.256/.354 in 82 at-bats for the season.

Giants activated RHP Brandon Medders from the 15-day disabled list and designated him for assignment.
Medders had a 3.01 ERA in 61 appearances last season, but he struggled coming out of the gate this year (7.20 ERA in 15 IP) and was placed on the DL last month with what was termed right knee inflammation. Maybe the Diamondbacks, his original organization, will give him another shot.

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

show me a player who scores from first on a single more than 10 times in his career and ill show you a hall of famer. because that player would be stealing 100 bases a year and hitting well over .320 for a career off infield hits alone. This super player you are speaking of doesnt exist. Scoring from 1st on a double is speed enough.

That shit dont even sound right in pro baseball. this aint little league. come on guys.

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

did you read my quote that you just reposted with bold......do you know what the word "UNLESS" means?

unless of course scenarios 1 and/or 2 occurred......and in those cases just about every1 at the Major League level should be scoring.......

i not putting up an arguement against DOUBLES in general, especially because of the RCF alley...



under the right circumstances its possible to score on a double.............but they WONT score on a SINGLE...................

my aguement all along has been they wont score on a SINGLE!!! and they are limited to circumstances on doubles

You're not understanding me.. I'm not talking about ATT park only.... and the two scenarios you mentioned have nothing to do with the sentence/statement I quoted, that statement is from a single, you then proceeded to talk about doubles as a seperate argument saying that they still dont score on a double. Either learn to use periods or reword your statement.

AND you continue to ignore that I said DEEP SINGLES, do you know what a DEEP SINGLE is?? I also said CAN, in other words it is possible that the runner CAN score not that the runner WILL score. Yes there is variables but it is POSSIBLE for that runner to score from 1st.. if anything it is dependent on the park, the outfielders arm and how hard the ball was hit. Of course the runners speed, decent lead before ball was hit and if the 3b coach sends him or stops him.

 

[DubbC415]

Burrell isnt in the starting lineup, not that he should be. But it should be interesting to see if he gets an at-bat.

 

[W0RM_Da_C0N]

eli, huff, and uuurrrriiiibe all went yard!

both sanchez cats did they thing too

 

[LA Dodgers]

AND you continue to ignore that I said DEEP SINGLES, do you know what a DEEP SINGLE is??

I also said CAN, in other words it is possible that the runner CAN score not that the runner WILL score. Yes there is variables but it is POSSIBLE for that runner to score from 1st...

cant admit when you are wrong....."DEEP SINGLE" lol............you mean as in it should have been adouble but the runner fell on the ground? or the outfielder threw the ball in to the infield but it hit a bird in flight so runner scored........or lol................no1 is scoring on a "DEEP SINGLE" period!......and no1 is scoring on a double UNLESS they were

1.. stealing
2. hit and run
3. there were two outs
4. or the ball splits the outfielders in front (plain view) of the baserunner

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

You just dont understand what im tryin to say.. i'll be the first to admit when im wrong but ur basically taking my shit and twisting it or ignoring what im trying to say.. tell me where I said the runner will always score? i gave u a list of variables, baseball is a game that relies on a lot of variables.. yet you still choose to ignore what im saying and keep repeating what ur saying with nothing new said.

U also always quote whatever I say and try to argue it, it can be an opinion and ull still quote me and shit.. my OPINION for lack of a better word is we have a couple of runners with speed and they can score on a double, i just provided u with VIDEO of Torres scoring from first on a double by Pablo Sandoval on the night of July 25th 2009 WITH 1 OUT not 2 OUTS. So yes it is doable, every at bat? no.. but its not impossible either. As for that "DEEP SINGLE" that depends on where it's hit, and im not limiting this whole argument to ATT park.. i dont know why u think I was in the first place. I'm done arguing with u unless u bring something new to the table. We can agree to disagree or w/e.. but i stand by what I said and I wont change my mind or views.

 

[DubbC415]

That huff home run was a JACK, and i love that little pimp shuffle he did right as he hit it, that was damn funny.

 

[LA Dodgers]

You just dont understand what im tryin to say..

i know exactly what you are saying. you made a comment that Giants with tactical speed can score from first on a "DEEP SINGLE"....that statement is improbable and it rarely ever happens, it would need many intangibles all working together at the same time just to MAYBE have a chance.........

you wont back away from that statement...and are trying to deflect attention over to scoring on doubles.............

for the 1 millionth time............scoring from first on a double is nothing new....add in a few factors and it becomes routine.......a slower team like the giants would find it harder to do so....but it will happen..........a faster team like the Rays will have it happen more routinely because of thier team speed

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

I'm not trying to deflect any attention.. u said they will not score from 1st on a double as well, i proved u wrong on that.. its not something that will happen all the time as ur making it seem that i said that..

I stand by everything i've said.. i never claimed we were a team built for speed, point to where I said that.. i just named a few guys who have some speed.

And u are now saying that its nothing new.. okay, then why did u say they (The Giants) wont score on a double? certainly not Molina or Sandoval, but Velez, Schierholtz and Torres probably all could.. Torres for sure.

 

[LA Dodgers]

i am going to quote my original post and your original post............in case you missed it..........i stated how one could score on a double

but my main arguement was how you CANT score on a single

Originally Posted by discuss650
Speed is speed, the guys I mentioned can score from 1st on an rbi single (if deep enough) or a double.

i beg to differ with that statement in general......under the right circumstances its possible, but not likely...for example

1. there are 2 outs and runner is off on contact

2. it was a hit and run....

outside of that i bet none of the Giants score from 1st on a SINGLE (that would be a tough task for even Carl Crawford).....and unless its hit in the Right-Center corner at AT&T with Bengie Molina running (everyone else its a triple) i still dont see them scoring on a double either, unless of course scenarios 1 and/or 2 occurred......and in those cases just about every1 at the Major League level should be scoring.......

 

[drunkaholic707]

wilson is a useless mohawk faggot

 

[T-Rip]

I guess the win is not guaranteed but at least the Giants took the lead in the top of the 10th

 

[Frisco playa]

Damn Giants games truly are torture!!!! Good win though!!!!

 

[DubbC415]

Pretty crazy win tonight, back and forth and Uribe came up huge...wheres LA Dodgers to say that he wasnt gonna produce this year like he did last year???



also, i know no one anticipated this, but what a fucking letdown.

According to Mychael Urban of CSNBayArea.com, Mark DeRosa (wrist) is likely "done" for the year.
DeRosa sat out Sunday and Monday after going 0-for-4 in a minor league rehab game with Triple-A Fresno on Saturday. Somewhere along the way, he apparently aggravated the injury. If true, DeRosa is expected to undergo season-ending surgery.

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

We chose Gary Brown in the draft, nice speedy guy who can steal bases and has a little power too... A's previously drafted him in 2007.... not a bad pick.. obviously we werent gonna land a Bryce Harper type or a can't miss prospect...

 

[DUTCH-F.E]

we drafted Gary Brown a CF from Cal State Fullerton in the first round of the draft today. Projected to be a base stealing lead off hitter. Who knows... A couple ESPN guys say he could be a top 5 steal in the draft. And if "the team who drafts him is looking for a lead off hitter, he will be on a fast track to the show."

here he is.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7189183

 

[ReKz]

We chose Gary Brown in the draft, nice speedy guy who can steal bases and has a little power too... A's previously drafted him in 2007.... not a bad pick.. obviously we werent gonna land a Bryce Harper type or a can't miss prospect...

His profile:

Gary Brown is a quick center fielder from Cal State Fullerton. Originally from Diamond Bar High School in Diamond Bar, California, a town about 30 miles east of Los Angeles, Brown has come a long way since his high school days. A versatile middle infielder in high school, he was considered a solid prospect with solid tools. He was deliberated over for the first day of the 2007 draft, but fell to the A’s in the twelfth round and they failed to sign him. He was an immediate starter at Fullerton, and he hasn’t looked back. He started at second and third base during his first two years, but a move to the outfield this season, a result of Josh Fellhauer (Reds, 7th) being drafted last year, has shown something new. He is a plus hitter with plus contact skills, but he has shown little patience at the plate and has below-average pop. However, he’s a gap-to-gap hitter with the ability to both hit doubles and bunt for a base hit. He’s a plus-plus runner with plus-plus range in center field and incredible instincts for a player with limited experience in the outfield. His arm is solid-average, plenty to carry the position. The whole defensive package is the best in the draft class for center field and many scouts predict him to be a gold glove winner. A late-season broken finger clouds his stock a little bit, but scouts have had plenty of time to see him. Brown looks like a surefire first round pick, likely in the second half of the round.

A very Sabean-like pick, he loves toolsy OF....looking forward to what John Barr (scouting director) has in store for the next few rounds, he's fond of drafting players who were highly regarded but have fallen due to various reasons (i.e. Kieschnick, Crawford) and also likes power bats (i.e. Joseph, Dominguez)....also looking forward to the usual slew of pitchers that they will pick up.

Don't know who if he'll last until #73, but I'd like to see Yordy Cabrera picked up there...

 

[CHAPO GUZMAN]

I dont mind more pitching but i prefer more position players, we need a McCutchen, Young, Loney, Kemp, Heyward type... preferably someone with power. I would lovvvve for us to get and develop someone like Adrian Gonzalez or Pujols.. one can dream