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Meta4iCAL

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I'm not sure if anyone heard this yet, looks like it's at least a couple weeks old

but it's a Jarrod Cooper interview on KNBR... apparently he rips Al Davis, Russell, Javon Walker, and airs out a lot of shit about what goes down behind the scenes on the team

I haven't listened to it... I'm bout to pass out, but I'll try to listen tomorrrow

http://knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/13358.mp3
wow... Cooper talks hella shit about the team

he talks about how Al Davis called out Randy Moss in front of the whole time, "told him to shut up, because he's here to catch balls" which is why Moss chose to play like shit... he said Moss would catch balls and purposely drop them, and even admitted doing that in the locker room

said Al Davis still calls plays... and he fired Gruden because he got jealous when Gruden got credit for the Raiders' success

he flat out says he thinks Russell is terrible, is gonna be bust, and is never gonna be good... he says he doesn't even care how he plays...

this muthafucka said he wouldn't invite Russell to his house for Thanksgiving because he's probably drop the turkey and they'd have to get Mexican food... lmao

he said Gerrard Warren is the only player on the team who will call Russell out and talk shit to him when he fucks up

he also talks hella shit about Walker... and how he's not a good player... interesting stuff
 
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DAMN THAT WAS A HORRIBLE GAME. OUR WORST LOSS AT HOME IN THE HISTORY OF OUR FRANCHISE. UNBELIEVABLE. SAD. THIS TEAM PLAYED WITH ZERO HEART TODAY. I WANT 3 HOURS OF MY LIFE BACK!!!
 
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Poole: Isn't time to pull plug on Russell
By Monte Poole


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Posted: 10/25/2009 10:13:46 PM PDT
Updated: 10/26/2009 08:34:27 AM PDT


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And not because he's earned it.

Having lost the faith of a significant portion of the Raiders fan base, as well as a few teammates and coaches, JaMarcus Russell needed only 24 minutes Sunday to fumble his previously firm status as starting quarterback.

A little more than nine minutes into the second quarter of a 38-0 thumping by the New York Jets, played before a sparse congregation at the Oakland Coliseum, Raiders coach Tom Cable relieved Russell of the job he has held since December 2007.

Understand, there was enough embarrassment to mortify everyone drawing a Raiders paycheck, from owner/general manager Al Davis and the coaching staff, to the players and the video

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specialists.

"I don't think we could have beaten an Oakland high school team today," summarized defensive lineman Richard Seymour.

But this blaze was lit by Russell. In the midst of one of the sorriest seasons in NFL history, he submitted a microcosm of his worst work so far.

Sacked on the first offensive play of the game, he fumbled the ball to the Jets, who recovered at the Oakland 4-yard line and scored less than two minutes later.

After failing to achieve a first down on their second possession, the Raiders' third possession ended when a horrible Russell pass was intercepted by Jets safety Jim Leonhard, who returned the ball 44 yards to the Oakland 4, setting up New York's second touchdown.

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that," Cable said of the throw.

Two Russell turnovers, resulting in two Jets touchdowns, requiring a total of 8 offensive yards equaled a demoralized bunch of Raiders.

"We can't spot teams 14 points," running back Justin Fargas conceded.

Russell took the field again, whereupon he was hit with a stream of disapproval so chunky it was almost visible. He responded by floating a pass toward Todd Watkins at the goal line. As Watkins waited for the ball to drop into his hands, Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis soared over the top to pick it off.

"He just kind of threw it up," Cable said.

Russell attempted two more passes — a 4-yard completion to rookie wideout Darius Heyward-Bey and an ill-advised incompletion that was perilously close to becoming his third interception in 11 throws — and got the hook.

Russell had to go. The ever-dwindling core of die-hards, allegedly 39,354 Sunday, had disowned him. Teammates on defense surely had seen enough; they trailed by 21, mostly because of Russell.

"We started the game in a hole," Seymour said. "That's not the way we play."

Cable threw up his hands ... and told backup Bruce Gradkowski to get ready, which brings us back to why Russell should start next Sunday at San Diego.

The alternative is Gradkowski, a journeyman who plays with high energy if not solid efficiency. A poor man's Jeff Garcia, if you will.

Gradkowski's entrance drew cheers not because it promised a shower of touchdowns or consistent offense but because he was not Russell. Though G-man's numbers (10-of-19 for 97 yards, no touchdowns or interceptions) were better than those of J-Russ (6-of-11, 61, zero and two), that in no way implies Gradkowski is the solution to the quarterback problem.

And, no, it's not third-stringer Charlie Frye, either.

Cable knows that, saying afterward that Al's man JaMarcus remains the starter.

Yet Russell has been so bad that Cable and even Davis have to consider Gradkowski or Frye, if not Garcia or 41-year-old Jeff George.

But not now. The Chargers are next, on the road, where any taunts will come from the enemy. Put it on Russell. See how he responds to this medium-decibel wake-up call.

Should that fail, open the competition. After San Diego is the bye week, and after the bye is a visit from Kansas City. That's two weeks to prepare for a team the Raiders know they can beat.

Does Cable have it in him? Sounds as if he might.

Until it's proved that Davis ordered the change, I'll believe Cable pulled Russell. It's a move deserving of props, suggesting there is independent thought at least on Sundays.

We know the commitment is to Russell. Davis identified him as the franchise quarterback, drafted him No. 1 overall and pays him a magnificent sum.

But if Cable is chasing wins rather than developing Russell for another coach, he has to see what else he has or can get. The attitude and effort of a team may be at stake.
 

Meta4iCAL

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^^^ you can say that about a lot of positions lol, its difficult to draft first round picks, most picks are busts
especially when the Raiders draft them:hurt:

it doesn't matter who we pick as long as Al is picking

we should draft a left tackle... but I doubt it

Al will probably just draft the fastest DB in the draft or some stupid shit
 
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^It's not the Raiders, it's just Al lol I read an article that said that Al isn't going to retire as owner, but wants to die as the owner, so yall got him until he dies LOL
 

Meta4iCAL

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they been saying he doesn't care about the team, he only cares about getting paid! they even said it on Comcast SportsNet Chronicle Live yesterday.
I've heard people say that before, but it doesn't make any sense... what makes people think that??

First of all, if he only cares about money, why is he known for giving players huge contracts? Al has never had a problem paying players big money

Second, think about it... Al is 80 years old... even he lives until he's 100 (God help us all if he does) I'm sure the guy has enough money to last him

I honestly think Al does want to win, but he only wants to win HIS way

He wants to win, and wants all the credit for it... Jarrod Cooper had an interview on KNBR (I posted it in this thread) where he says the reason Al got rid of Gruden is because Gruden was getting all the credit for the Raiders' success, and Al wanted the credit

that's why we usually play strictly man to man coverage on defense... and never blitz.. that's why we draft the biggest, fastest, strongest players... regardless of talent

that's all Al's way of doing things... if we start running a zone defense, and blitzing all the time, then we bench jamarcus russell, we hire a general manager, and next year we draft a player who didn't run the fastest in the combine... people are gonna know Al Davis isn't running things like he used to... even if he makes the final decision... all that shit is not his idea, because that's not Al Davis football

the problem is Al Davis football is outdated, he was once a great football mind, but the game passed him by... he's too old, senile, and stubborn to realize that

Al would rather lose his way than win somebody else's way... and I don't see Al's way winning shit anytime soon, so us Raiders fan gotta face the facts that we're probably gonna be losing until he dies

so no, I don't think it has anything to do with money... it has to do with him being an old stubborn, senile bastard
 

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I've heard people say that before, but it doesn't make any sense... what makes people think that??

First of all, if he only cares about money, why is he known for giving players huge contracts? Al has never had a problem paying players big money

Second, think about it... Al is 80 years old... even he lives until he's 100 (God help us all if he does) I'm sure the guy has enough money to last him

I honestly think Al does want to win, but he only wants to win HIS way

He wants to win, and wants all the credit for it... Jarrod Cooper had an interview on KNBR (I posted it in this thread) where he says the reason Al got rid of Gruden is because Gruden was getting all the credit for the Raiders' success, and Al wanted the credit

that's why we usually play strictly man to man coverage on defense... and never blitz.. that's why we draft the biggest, fastest, strongest players... regardless of talent

that's all Al's way of doing things... if we start running a zone defense, and blitzing all the time, then we bench jamarcus russell, we hire a general manager, and next year we draft a player who didn't run the fastest in the combine... people are gonna know Al Davis isn't running things like he used to... even if he makes the final decision... all that shit is not his idea, because that's not Al Davis football

the problem is Al Davis football is outdated, he was once a great football mind, but the game passed him by... he's too old, senile, and stubborn to realize that

Al would rather lose his way than win somebody else's way... and I don't see Al's way winning shit anytime soon, so us Raiders fan gotta face the facts that we're probably gonna be losing until he dies

so no, I don't think it has anything to do with money... it has to do with him being an old stubborn, senile bastard
It took me a while to see this but it's evident.
 

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I've heard people say that before, but it doesn't make any sense... what makes people think that??

First of all, if he only cares about money, why is he known for giving players huge contracts? Al has never had a problem paying players big money

Second, think about it... Al is 80 years old... even he lives until he's 100 (God help us all if he does) I'm sure the guy has enough money to last him

I honestly think Al does want to win, but he only wants to win HIS way

He wants to win, and wants all the credit for it... Jarrod Cooper had an interview on KNBR (I posted it in this thread) where he says the reason Al got rid of Gruden is because Gruden was getting all the credit for the Raiders' success, and Al wanted the credit

that's why we usually play strictly man to man coverage on defense... and never blitz.. that's why we draft the biggest, fastest, strongest players... regardless of talent

that's all Al's way of doing things... if we start running a zone defense, and blitzing all the time, then we bench jamarcus russell, we hire a general manager, and next year we draft a player who didn't run the fastest in the combine... people are gonna know Al Davis isn't running things like he used to... even if he makes the final decision... all that shit is not his idea, because that's not Al Davis football

the problem is Al Davis football is outdated, he was once a great football mind, but the game passed him by... he's too old, senile, and stubborn to realize that

Al would rather lose his way than win somebody else's way... and I don't see Al's way winning shit anytime soon, so us Raiders fan gotta face the facts that we're probably gonna be losing until he dies

so no, I don't think it has anything to do with money... it has to do with him being an old stubborn, senile bastard
Good Point but i wasn't talking about Al Davis, i was talking about Russell