The Official No War On Iraq Post

Mezzano · Feb 28, 2003

This is my FAVORITE pro-war post, by the well-known B.A.R.T. right-wing fanatic, PLOT. Watch as I dissect.

PLOT said:

Good question. I have a couple more. 1) Why does Turkey do the same, but worse, to the Kurds with U.S. money and guns? and, 2) Why did the chemical gas that Hussein used on Kurds come from the Reagan/Bush Administrations? oh one more--3) why was it only AFTER the invasion of Kuwait that this became a big issue?

The fact: The US govt is being hypocritical. You have been deceived. Yes Hussein is horrible, and what the US proposes for Iraq is no better.
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dammit i gotta run. more later homies.

MaddDogg · Feb 28, 2003

PLOT said:

We did we support his Regime? Because we wanted to get rid of a worse Regime(Iran). Saddam also gave us $1 off the per barrel price of oil in exchange for weaponry during the 1980's. Im not sure if we gave him chemical weapons but I know for a fact we helped build up his military.

What are OUR INTEREST??? Our Interest is not the Kurds nor the Sunni Muslim factions who have been raped, tourtured and murdered by Iraqi soldiers and Saddam. We even funded some of that. Our interest is Iraq's strategic position in the middle east, its resources (oil reserves), and that they will fun terrorism (which we hae no link to).

ANTI-WAR = ANTI HUMAN RIGHTS...No. People are being killed and raped in Saudi Arabia and Turkey and other countries just as bad as in Iraq but we will continue to ignore this as long as they strike deals with our government. But I garuntee you wont see good Ol Uncle Sam bustin heads in Saudi Arabia.

Puddahmaan · Feb 28, 2003

PLOT said:

Oh sorry...never realized that these sanctions aren't just economical or military ones...they should hit the civil population too, right??
Hmmm...now that's humanity...

Puddahmaan · Feb 28, 2003

PLOT said:

They don't need medical support from the US...they need the US to stop the medical support sanctions...you see the difference...I'm not sure you will...??

FastLane/S::G · Mar 1, 2003

Re: Re: Re: Yes to war.

tadou said:

"SO I SUPPOSE?" don't put more words in my mouth. i know they feed people in other countries, including North Korea since their bitch ass government can't. anyways, i said NOTHING about cutting humanitarian aid to foreign nations... i said instead of spending billions on war (yes, WAR is what i said. WAR != Humanitarian Aid), we should use it to improve upon things in our society.

And yes, the US administration does understand the concept of suffering (u hit that one right on the dot!). They should by now since they've made people in other countries do it for years.

tadou said:

well i did mean to use the term DEBT, but anyways.....

Main Entry: def·i·cit
Pronunciation: 'de-f&-s&t, British also di-'fis-&t or 'dE-f&-s&t
Function: noun
Etymology: French déficit, from Latin deficit it is wanting, 3d singular present indicative of deficere
Date: 1782
1 a (1) : deficiency in amount or quality

yes, i do know what i'm talking about. sorry if i foiled your attempt to belittle me.

if you were implying that i used the word incorrectly, then forgive me. this is an internet message board and not a term paper.

tadou said:

uhh..... wut?

even though u don't agree with my views, it would be silly for you to say you don't know the reasons yourself. i shouldn't have to go into this for anybody.

tadou said:

because i'm not rich like you and i can't just get up and leave any time i want to.

while we're on the topic of who should do what, then i'm gonna be a smart ass and tell you "if you support war so much, then why don't you go enlist in the military instead of postin up on the sidelines cheerleading?"... assuming that you already aren't.

M.O.B. Boss · Mar 2, 2003

Tadou I feel sorry for ya bro. If Bush wanted to fight a war to bring back slavery you'd probably tell me to move to Canada if I didn't want that huh? Instead of moving to Canada I'd rather do the most American thing I can and voice my opinion. Also, check the Declaration of Independence. If our government is doing things against the people's will, it is our right, OUR DUTY, to overthrow that government. So being anti-war can never be anti-American..... it's the most American thing you can do. So go back to the books and stop riding that high horse (I can say that 'cause you're the same guy that thinks you're a sick ass rapper for being able to speak more than English...hahahahahahah). By the way don't call me a liberal democrat or anything else. I could give a FUCK who's the president as long as he makes rational wise decisions that benefit the people of the U.S. and a war would not be in OUR best interest. Say what you want that I should be worried about Iraqis, I'm worried about MY house, MY block, MY family, MY life. Why don't you get off the computer and invite some homeless people of SouthEast SF in your house if you're so worried about "suffering". You won't will you? It sounds to me that you would back up Bush no matter what just because you're part of his political party. Let NATO or the UN worry about "helping" Iraq. Why does the U.S. have such an interest in Iraq, because everyone else is a "pussy"? Na it's because we have an interest in Middle East oil and the fact that Saddam and his daddy dearest didn't get along and because America got played on September 11th.

Amaretto · Mar 2, 2003

Solitary 1 said:

"the Iraqi people need to be liberated."
yeah, from Saddam, and then inprisoned by Bush?
war war war, that's all america seems to be good for, especially when it's far away from the american continent. u can't get rid of a head ache by cutting off the head... Bush needs a full scale plan for a new government (that the Iraquies will choose) to be able to stop the terror of Iraq. Bush's plan is to get more oil money. Period.

war isn't the answer. i'm glad to see and know plainty of americans who got the brains to think one step ahead. big up to those!

peace

M.O.B. Boss · Mar 2, 2003

Amaretto said:

FastLane/S::G · Mar 2, 2003

M.O.B. Boss said:

lol, and we all know his son isn't the brightest bulb in the lamp section of Home Depot. He can't seem to speak the english language correctly, he cuts trees down to prevent forest fires, lies to the public repeatedly, and is pissing just about everybody in the world off except american republicans.

MaddDogg · Mar 2, 2003

Tadou, its obvious that me and you dont get along to well...in my opinion your posts make you and idiot and to you my posts make me and idiot...so Im leaving it like this...

Here's what you just said: This isnt the 60's, there isnt slavery, because we have slavery. Yet in the 60's you had "Americans" telling hippies to go away just like you got people telling anti-war people to move to a different state. There's really no argument here. Telling someone to go away because of their beliefs is against our democracy and against WHAT THE US STANDS FOR.

Speaking of what the US stands for, what do we stand for? If you've ever taken a history course I suppose you would know about the US supporting Iraq 15 years ago despite the fact we knew he was a dictator. You would also know that Castro's communist revolt in Cuba was so successful because the people of Cuba were being used like a colony by big American Business like United Fruit Co. Lastly, im sure you would have heard of our "Good Neighbor Policy," in which we told other countries we would control N. and S. America's sphere of influence, and which the result was 14 invasions of Haiti as well as other places, and the appointment of dictators in several countries that remains one of the main causes of poverty today. We ignored genocide in Rwanda and Zimbabwae and other parts of Africa. We supported dictators like Chiang Hi Shek in China and Vietnam in order to "contain" communism, despite the fact the people of these countries didn't approve of them. So what do we stand for?

Yes, most of our country is brainwashed...look at the radio industry...the TV industry. It may sound radical, but the bottom line is, especially to other countries, the general American public is ignorent...and that opinion is for good reason.

Now I really dont wanna get in to your rapping career, but since you were callin names I did. No Tadou, Im not a rapper. Im a consumer. No Tadou, unfortunately I am not on your dick nor a fan of your "original" and "groundbreaking" music. I don't need to battle you to understand that your music is wack. I can listen to it. I can see your posts where you compare yourself to some of the greatest MCs of all time and listen to your songs at mp3.com which are HORRID. See Tadou, I understand that rappin aint for everyone. Aparently you don't. Best of luck to ya anyways.

WT SAVAGE · Mar 2, 2003

if anyone "hates the U.S" n lives here in the U,S, fuck YOU. if u dont want war wit IRAQ,fuck U. i got homies over there fighting fora "reason"n homies on the way there ( in 2 weeks) n if you dont support OUR country fuckin up iraq, then u go move to iraq n die wit em!

if any of yall dont like my response 2 damn bad!

FastLane/S::G · Mar 2, 2003

^^ LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
that's the funniest response yet. i can't believe someone got their feelings tapped because some fools on here are against war

so wut are these "reasons" then? u sorta left us hangin there by a thread.... i got a boy in the navy who got shipped out to Iraq last weekend too, but he says fuck this shit

bayGIANTS · Mar 2, 2003

Hey PLOT I got this 4 ya.

Mezzano said:

So all that makes it ok? You made no argument as to why PLOT's statement should be disregarded.

as fucked up this country and government can be sometimes, it aint anywhere near as "horrible" as Hussein. What is so horrible that the US proposes. They are trying to liberate the people and want to take out the man who has been killing them and sponsoring the killings of amny other innocent people.

I cant believe how people cannot think for themselves. they just listen to anti-war propoganda and bullshit about all conservatives. If you actually did any kind of research for yourself about liberals and their true intentions, you would undoubtedly move at least a little bit to the right.

MaddDogg · Mar 2, 2003

bayGIANTS said:

Like I said in my previous post, we have appointed muppet governments that we allow to do whatever the hell they want to stop communism regardless of what the government does to their peoples.

Cuba
China
Vietnam
3 examples.

FastLane/S::G · Mar 2, 2003

WT SAVAGE said:

rofl, if i'm against war, then what the fuck am i gonna move to Iraq for when the war is gonna be takin place there, smart guy? if you're gonna say some shit like that, then how about showin some integrity by following your own advice and do this:

SOAK::GAME said:

check mate.

MaddDogg · Mar 3, 2003

lol. This is becoming quite the interesting topic.

Amaretto · Mar 3, 2003

SOAK::GAME said:

LOL!! real talk playah!!

YoungVicious · Mar 3, 2003

Anybody tellin somebody "leave the country if you dont agree with it" is a fuckin moron and a hypocrit. Thats completely un-American...I thought one of the reasons we're going to war is to "protect our liberties". Isnt this country's most cherished liberty the ability to SPEAK OUT when you're against something? Thats one of the things that makes America the FREE country that it is. But people who exercise that right are anti-American and should leave? Maybe Im missing something, but that doesnt seem very logical.

Sydal · Mar 3, 2003

C'mon now people. Not everybody is going to be for war, not everybody is going to be against it. I for one, have mixed feelings about the shit. I'm kinda nervous that we are going to attack Iraq, and some other countries are going to attack us. HOWEVER, I feel confident that our countrys anti-missile defense system works properly.

I look at it this way, Sadaam Hussein murdered his son-in-law...which means he killed his daughters husband, which means he has no problem murdering people outside of his family, which he also does. He's no different than Hitler, in the sense that he tests weapons on other human beings, it doesn't matter where they are from. In REALITY, we don't need to go to war, but since we can't assassinate a head of state, war is our only option. What we need to do, is go get rid of Sadaam, and get rid of his sons, that's it. So until they change the law and say "GO PUT ONE IN SADAAMS BRAIN", we need to go over there and fuckin BOMB on some folks, plain and simple. People who are mad and say our government is the evil one, DO NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT!! If you have logical reasons for not wanting war, that's fine. But the people who disagree with our government's decisions as a whole, and think they are the devils, y'all need to raise up, and get the fuck outta dodge. I mean, we got people who haven't liked the government for 15-20 years, na mean? Those types of people need to get out, cause obviously nothing will make them happy here.

I support the war, fuck it...we need to do what we need to do. I gives a fuck why we are going to war. The fact remains, that Sadaam needs to go, PERIOD. Whether it be over oil, for the human race, or just for kicks and target practice, the man needs to die.

FastLane/S::G · Mar 3, 2003

tadou said:

lolz

did u just say i was Pro-Iraq?

so wut your saying is, if i'm anti-war, then that means i'm automatically PRO-IRAQ??????

OH COY!!!!!!

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